Overgaming / Displaying too much value. What's the solution?

[Anonymous]

Let me preface this post by complimenting you guys on putting some wonderful articles and products together. Keep up the good work!

I am by no means a stranger to "game". However, my path has been a little different in that I've relied purely on my own experiences and reflections. Transformation and success came through continually pushing myself through fears barrier again and again. Theorising and re-calibrating, then doing it again. And again. And again. As a result, I have enormous respect for Chase and those others who have taken similar paths and love to teach.

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"Overgaming" or displaying too much value. It's a stupid sounding problem, but it's been the main handicap to my success over the last 6 months or so. I'm hoping you guys in the advanced crew might be able to help. I'm continually faced with comments like these both in same night game and mroe gradual day game ;

"You probably don't even like me, I bet you're like this with all the girls."

"You won't look at me the same way in the morning."

"We're too different."

And one girl "I don't understand why a guy like you would be interested in me."

"You're too good looking for me" - from a girl who I saw as a defacto 9.5. What the !!!

Without intending to sound arrogant; I'm a male fitness model, I'm very lucky to be very passionate and have a lot of stuff going for me in terms of creative/business/musical pursuits. This being the case I have been running "good looking guy game" based on information from various sources. That's just being humble, direct, nice and avoiding forms of teasing. I often don't mention what I do with my time, I downplay everything. It's worked. I do seem to have greater success with girls when I act SUPER nice/warm and reassure the girl that I'm not some kind of player. I even started acting needy/highly invested in girls to see what happened and it worked better than standard game too.

I really like some of these girls. But it's common now for girls to act very defensive / challenging / testing / wanting large emotional validation from me. This was vastly different to when I was skinny and less confident, things seemed to operate more smoothly. One girl I slept with lately I managed to get some feedback from - she began to ignore my messages. I really liked the girl. I went to hers to give some of her jewelry back a month later and asked her straight up why she didn't reply. She looked in my eyes and said sincerely that said that she didn't think I liked her enough and that she didn't want to be hurt again. I had taken her avoidance as simple dis-interest. Instead it was more of a test of MY interest in her.

All this is a little bit crazy to me because of where I started. Unable to have a basic conversation. Now it seems to be convincing girls that they stand a chance with me / that I am interested in a relationship with them. I prefer the first problem, at the least the solution was more obvious!


So what's going on here? Sure some of these comments rubbed my ego a little to start with! - but now they're tiresome.


If anyone has similar experiences, what's the best way to approach this? Thank you : )

 

[Flames]

Re: Overgaming / Displaying too much value. What's the solut

What your basically talking about is attainability, have a read of Chases attainability post.

It's bascically the higher value you are the less attainable you are so auto-rejection kicks in, you have to work on other aspects such as warmth, compassion and kindness.

I struggled a lot with this as I too backed off thinking I was being too aggressive, and when I bombed out completely I was left wondering what the hell had happened?

 

[MonsieurLabrie]

Re: Overgaming / Displaying too much value. What's the solut

Game for good looking guy super high value guys is a different animal.

You need attainability tech. Focus on:
-Deep Dive https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-art-deep-dive
-Eye contact and looking very interested in the girl https://www.girlschase.com/content/elite-eye-contact
-Discovering unique things about her that you can qualify her on. https://www.girlschase.com/content/get-to-know-a-girl
-Don't let her go https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-dont-let-her-go

 

[Laowai]

Re: Overgaming / Displaying too much value. What's the solut

Bro,
you'r current major sticking point is qualifcation. You're not at all qualifying your girls, otherwise you'd never get them to say these things. You're not communicating that you like them because you're too busy being awesome... which you ARE : )

Throw in a little more vulnerability on your part too, tell her about a few of your doubts/minor problems in life to communicate that you're also a human-being too - all your qualities aside. Also, make the girls talk more about themselves and make sure to reward them for telling you all the cool things about themselves - they're trying to impress you because they like you, but you don't even notice it. You yourself should probably talk less and listen more.

I'm guessing you also get a fair bit of LMR in the bedroom unless the girls you bang are merely attraction sets.

So, read up on qualification on the net and Chase's article on deep diving.