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Hey guys,
So I experimented a bit. I've always followed GC's advice since I took an interest in seduction. I've seen first hand how powerful these advices are. But as I've seen how powerful "do" advices are and I wanted to experience the power of "don't" advices.
I matched with this girl on tinder and texted a bit. I suggested to meet up and she told me we could meet up in the weekend because she wanted to go out with her friends and we could meet up before then. I told her we could meet up another time as she would have a time constraint. She suggested I come with them. Now normally I don't do party dates and the logic behind it seems sound to me but this time I wanted to do it purely for learning experience. I don't know much of the night venues in Istanbul because of my conservative upbringing. I thought it'd be good if I could learn some venues plus just maybe I can close with this girl and wouldn't that be a story to tell?
So I told her okay and got her number. On saturday she texted me quite late (9 pm or sth). There were a lot of bumps on the way. She had to meet up with her friend (who's a guy). We couldn't meet up etc. But I was uber cool all the time and I picked them up with my car (mom's car lol) finally as they were close to me. They suggested we go to a club really far away (1,5 hour by car) as the guy had an invitation from one of the organizers. Before the plan was to go somewhere close. The place they wanted to go was where the solomun concert happened. I said why not haha as I try to say yes to every social oppurtunity and I like spontaneous plans. They wanted to fill up my tank. I let them and we hit the road.
The guys seemed gay btw. I asked my friend later if he was but she said no he had a girlfriend. The guy also told me a story about her ex-girlfriend but I'm still not convinced lol. We found out we have a lot of common friends.
In the car the guy asked me if I smoked weed. I said fuck yeah! I do weed rarely in Istanbul as none of my friends are really into it and I don't have a place on my own. So we smoked up. We finally found the place and got in. The girl showed a lot interest at the beginning. She asked me if I wanted a pill (this was an em party lol). I haven't done pills in 6 months but I used to do a variety when I wad abroad lol. I said yeah. And I was really happy she brought some with her. We did it (along with her friend).
I used my usual process with her even when I was high. Touching + deep diving + chase frames. She was receptive to my touch but there was no point where I could isolate her. She wanted to touch all the time. We kissed a bit but I didn't make out heavily because I thought I might have a lay shot later.
The thing with pills you're very social so there's no approach anxiety but I'm already an emphatic person and on pills I'm super-mega emphatic and this dials down my usual aggresive style way too much.
For preselection I approached a few girls and even took two girls to her to introduce them to her. I had my arms around their waists. The girls wore military comouflage clothes so I approached them "are you from the military?" playfully. Then after that I told them I would introduce them to another friend who was also from the military (my girl also wore a comouflage jacket).
Anyhow both the girl and the gut were very friendly and we had lots of fun. We went to the guy's house as the girl was living with her parents. I thought I might fuck her there but the guy had a studio so only one room and no privacy lol. Girl slept right away after a joint on a mattress on the floor and the guy and I chilled on a big bed/couch. After I went to sleep with the girl and the guy
slept on the couch. I started to escalate with the girl. My boner was poking her on the ass lol (The guy couldn't see us but we were just near the bed). The girl stopped me every time I went to her tits under the bra or her panties. She was fine with me caressing her on the bra. She told me let's sleep a few times. I took a big step back every time she gave me resistance and escalated again.Classic tactics. But after a while the girl got up to toilet and went to sleep with her friend. OMG I realize now that I could have followed her to the bathroom lol! Fuuuck! Anyway I was still high. After that we woke up they cleaned the room I cooked up some omelettes. The guy took a cab to a friend of his and after drinking a cop of coffee. It was night at this point. I gave her a ride not to her home but somewhere close because it was on my way. We gave each other a small goodbye kiss.
This is what happens when you don't listen to Chase's advice lol. My mistakes were agreeing to a party date, and overproviding good feelings. I know that I am deep into the boyfriend zone. I will still take my shot in a second date and if I can't close that time as well I'll let her go.
Still, I do not regret it. It was an awesome night. I had a great time and I met with two cool people who -if nothing else- can provide me with friendship value
So I experimented a bit. I've always followed GC's advice since I took an interest in seduction. I've seen first hand how powerful these advices are. But as I've seen how powerful "do" advices are and I wanted to experience the power of "don't" advices.
I matched with this girl on tinder and texted a bit. I suggested to meet up and she told me we could meet up in the weekend because she wanted to go out with her friends and we could meet up before then. I told her we could meet up another time as she would have a time constraint. She suggested I come with them. Now normally I don't do party dates and the logic behind it seems sound to me but this time I wanted to do it purely for learning experience. I don't know much of the night venues in Istanbul because of my conservative upbringing. I thought it'd be good if I could learn some venues plus just maybe I can close with this girl and wouldn't that be a story to tell?
So I told her okay and got her number. On saturday she texted me quite late (9 pm or sth). There were a lot of bumps on the way. She had to meet up with her friend (who's a guy). We couldn't meet up etc. But I was uber cool all the time and I picked them up with my car (mom's car lol) finally as they were close to me. They suggested we go to a club really far away (1,5 hour by car) as the guy had an invitation from one of the organizers. Before the plan was to go somewhere close. The place they wanted to go was where the solomun concert happened. I said why not haha as I try to say yes to every social oppurtunity and I like spontaneous plans. They wanted to fill up my tank. I let them and we hit the road.
The guys seemed gay btw. I asked my friend later if he was but she said no he had a girlfriend. The guy also told me a story about her ex-girlfriend but I'm still not convinced lol. We found out we have a lot of common friends.
In the car the guy asked me if I smoked weed. I said fuck yeah! I do weed rarely in Istanbul as none of my friends are really into it and I don't have a place on my own. So we smoked up. We finally found the place and got in. The girl showed a lot interest at the beginning. She asked me if I wanted a pill (this was an em party lol). I haven't done pills in 6 months but I used to do a variety when I wad abroad lol. I said yeah. And I was really happy she brought some with her. We did it (along with her friend).
I used my usual process with her even when I was high. Touching + deep diving + chase frames. She was receptive to my touch but there was no point where I could isolate her. She wanted to touch all the time. We kissed a bit but I didn't make out heavily because I thought I might have a lay shot later.
The thing with pills you're very social so there's no approach anxiety but I'm already an emphatic person and on pills I'm super-mega emphatic and this dials down my usual aggresive style way too much.
For preselection I approached a few girls and even took two girls to her to introduce them to her. I had my arms around their waists. The girls wore military comouflage clothes so I approached them "are you from the military?" playfully. Then after that I told them I would introduce them to another friend who was also from the military (my girl also wore a comouflage jacket).
Anyhow both the girl and the gut were very friendly and we had lots of fun. We went to the guy's house as the girl was living with her parents. I thought I might fuck her there but the guy had a studio so only one room and no privacy lol. Girl slept right away after a joint on a mattress on the floor and the guy and I chilled on a big bed/couch. After I went to sleep with the girl and the guy
slept on the couch. I started to escalate with the girl. My boner was poking her on the ass lol (The guy couldn't see us but we were just near the bed). The girl stopped me every time I went to her tits under the bra or her panties. She was fine with me caressing her on the bra. She told me let's sleep a few times. I took a big step back every time she gave me resistance and escalated again.Classic tactics. But after a while the girl got up to toilet and went to sleep with her friend. OMG I realize now that I could have followed her to the bathroom lol! Fuuuck! Anyway I was still high. After that we woke up they cleaned the room I cooked up some omelettes. The guy took a cab to a friend of his and after drinking a cop of coffee. It was night at this point. I gave her a ride not to her home but somewhere close because it was on my way. We gave each other a small goodbye kiss.
This is what happens when you don't listen to Chase's advice lol. My mistakes were agreeing to a party date, and overproviding good feelings. I know that I am deep into the boyfriend zone. I will still take my shot in a second date and if I can't close that time as well I'll let her go.
Still, I do not regret it. It was an awesome night. I had a great time and I met with two cool people who -if nothing else- can provide me with friendship value
