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Painting Myself as a Lover. Avoiding the BF zone.

Bboy100

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Ok, so thinking back, I've come to the realization that perhaps the reason I run into LMR literally every single date is because I consistently paint myself as BF material. That is- a girl believes that she can make me into a boyfriend. Even when I use BF disqualifies, it seems that some girls don't give up on the prospect of it. I know this because:

- Girls are rarely directly and openly sexual with me. In fact, the only reason I know for sure they're interested (which is almost every time), is because of their body language and because I rarely get kiss rejections. I've noticed that some of the higher level guys definitely post some LRs where girls make direct sexual comments and/or have very sexual conversations. In my case, the convos are mostly platonic. They're fun, but they're platonic. With the exception of a chase frame here and there. I'm not entirely sure how to use sex talk to make a conversation sexual.
- Girls seem to want to sleep with me on first dates... its not that they lack sufficient attraction or connection. I know this because throughout LMR, they'll often use phrases like "I don't do that on a first date" or "I don't do that with guys I just met" or "I won't let you do xyz on a first date".
-They often go out of their way to demonstrate just how "picky/conservative" they are when it comes to sex. Typically via telling me stories about how their friends hooked up fast with xyz guy, but they would never do that. Or by telling stories of things they've done with guys, but intentionally leaving out the fact that she obviously slept with him (usually there'll be gaps in her story or it just won't make sense. But if we assume she slept with the guy, the pieces start to come together).


I feel like my fundamentals are ok. I don't think sexiness is a problem. Cause I've gotten to a point where girls are consistently opening me at parties, and almost every girl I talk to seems to be at the very least, attracted to me. So I can't help but think this is a mistake I'm making with my actual game/verbal communication.

How do I prevent this from happening in the future?
 

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What is the difference in what you did with Stephanie and the failed attempts? You were very sexual with Stephanie. Maybe you did care as much with her because she wasn't as attractive? Compare these.

BDSC
 

Rage

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DrexelScott said:
radeng said:
DrexelScott said:
I openly share sex stories, never reveal my real job, openly disparage and mock beta males who get easily manipulated by women, and generally portray myself as a manwhore. I don't ever--EVER--get the "I'm not that kind of girl" crap, since they're lying anyway and they know it won't work on me.

What I get is more like, "Well last time I told my boyfriend that I cheated, he got really mad, so now I just don't tell him."

Drex,

Reading this just made a bell go off for me. I think you just pointed out what I haven't been doing with my dates that I do with many of my night game pulls. However, I think the reason I don't is because I feel incongruent getting this sexual as I feel it's more out of context in a date. Is that just a limiting belief or is there a difference between bringing up sexual topics like this on a more conventional atmosphere such as coffee? At night game I feel the "night time energy" gives me more permission to be sexual.

Radeng

Ps. I have yet to read your book but 100% plan on it when I start aggressively dating again.

It's not even being sexual in my opinion, I save that for the bedroom. I never--EVER--hit on women. I don't even compliment them or openly display interest. I just float ideas and if they respond a certain way, I move things forward knowing that they want me to do so. Super stealth game. When I talk about sexual topics, it's got the same charge as talking about the weather, or the gym--this is how girls talk about sex with each other, and doing it myself basically demonstrates that I "get it." Plus it demonstrates the DSV, display of sexual value, without actually hitting on them--this creates a "well he gets laid a lot but isn't hitting on me, why.. is there something wrong with me? maybe ill try to fuck him" dynamic that I absolutely love.

PS. You really should, especially since you're advanced, you should check out Straight To Sex. There is nothing else like it available in the seduction community (ask some of the guys who checked it out) and will really show you how I do my "inception game" on a whole new level.

Not contributing anythign relevant here but just thought that that's fucking brilliant Drexel. Maybe save this for when I get more advanced; but maybe can try integrating it a bit now.

I was watching a guy yesterday who had really sexual game and was advanced and this was one of the most genius things I observed and noted (the thing you JUST mentioned !! ): I observed that when he talks about the sexual stuff, he talks about it and looks at the girl and all his manerism and shit all match, just as when he is talking about anything else, or even talking about the weather or whatever.

Could share the video actually here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bqa73nH3Z0 the guy's brilliant and turns the igrl on hard and quick, but quite funny too... and games again like you say just getting sexual not really deep diving or talking substance wise about anything in particular.

Rage
 

Bboy100

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I openly share sex stories, never reveal my real job, openly disparage and mock beta males who get easily manipulated by women, and generally portray myself as a manwhore. I don't ever--EVER--get the "I'm not that kind of girl" crap, since they're lying anyway and they know it won't work on me.

What I get is more like, "Well last time I told my boyfriend that I cheated, he got really mad, so now I just don't tell him.
Definitely gonna try this out on my next date. But it leaves me wondering: How do you normally bring it up? Cause I feel like randomly talking about some girl you slept with out of the blue might be a little bit strange at best, tryhard looking at worse.
 

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Bboy100 said:
I openly share sex stories, never reveal my real job, openly disparage and mock beta males who get easily manipulated by women, and generally portray myself as a manwhore. I don't ever--EVER--get the "I'm not that kind of girl" crap, since they're lying anyway and they know it won't work on me.

What I get is more like, "Well last time I told my boyfriend that I cheated, he got really mad, so now I just don't tell him.
Definitely gonna try this out on my next date. But it leaves me wondering: How do you normally bring it up? Cause I feel like randomly talking about some girl you slept with out of the blue might be a little bit strange at best, tryhard looking at worse.

Hey....i really feel you...this is like my number one problem in daygame right now....trying to be more sexual,without being incongruent
 
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Bboy100 said:
Definitely gonna try this out on my next date. But it leaves me wondering: How do you normally bring it up? Cause I feel like randomly talking about some girl you slept with out of the blue might be a little bit strange at best, tryhard looking at worse.

I'm going to ask the same question as well. Usually my conversations are platonic just like Bboy wrote in the original post and I find it hard and a bit weird to get into this type of conversation.

And how do you respond when girls try to paint themselves as innocent and that they think sex is bad and so on? Is there a way to show them that you "get it" and that you understand they like and enjoy sex?
 

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DrexelScott said:
I openly share sex stories, never reveal my real job, openly disparage and mock beta males who get easily manipulated by women, and generally portray myself as a manwhore. I don't ever--EVER--get the "I'm not that kind of girl" crap, since they're lying anyway and they know it won't work on me.

How do you respond when a woman asks you what you do for a living Drexel?
 

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DrexelScott said:
Kaelos said:
DrexelScott said:
I openly share sex stories, never reveal my real job, openly disparage and mock beta males who get easily manipulated by women, and generally portray myself as a manwhore. I don't ever--EVER--get the "I'm not that kind of girl" crap, since they're lying anyway and they know it won't work on me.

How do you respond when a woman asks you what you do for a living Drexel?

Sometimes I tell the truth, sometimes I evade or make cocky jokes.

"I'm a witch hunter...lucky for you, I'm off the clock today"

Great stuff. I just had the exact question on my mind...so not giving her a serious answer...
Got it!
 
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