Paying $100 000 for a wingman

[132]

I've been thinking, I want to party and have a good time, but I don't know how. Mostly I don't know people to invite and especially girls to parties. Also I have lots to learn about seduction.

I decided I need a wingman. Someone really good with girls. Someone who knows lots of people and lots of girls - social magnet as they call them. Maybe some bar tender or club manager or club promoter. It'll be great to find someone and become friends but this will take a lot of time.

So this thought came to my mind. What if I hired such a guy. I can give him some fake position in my company just for ta reasons. And he can do whatever he wants during the day but at night when I want to party his job is to be my wingman, introduce me to people, to girls, to help me throw parties and invite people/girls to eat and drink for free, And I'm thinking of doing some traveling to Ibiza, Vegas and other party-spots, and I'll need a good wingman. Not some guy friend with no game.

I thought that $100k per year, plus 5-10k for every girl he helps me sleep with, would be very appealing to such a guy and would keep him really motivated. It's like hiring Chase or Gambler or Adam Lyons, but just for a longer period. Since all the PUAs live in the US and I doubt anyone would come live in Europe for a year to teach me, even if I pay them.

I'll have time till September to find one, cause I've already rented a beach house in Italy for the summer to go with my natural friend, but when I return in September I'll need that wingman for nightgame.


I'm actually writing this to ask for any advice on what exactly to look for in such a guy. How to be certain he's good with women/partying so I don't get a fraud.


Also I wander if it's a better idea to just buy one of the biggest clubs/diskos. It's gonna cost in the 7 figure digits, but I'll get somewhere where I feel really comfortable, has lots of people that party and get drunk every single night(here the clubs/bars/diskos are literally full every single night of the week). Also I'll be the most important person there - the bar tenders and waitresses, bouncers, manager, promoters will all make sure I'm having a good time. And I guess lots of status and probably pre-selection.

And there will be lots of people helping me meet new people, meet girls. And there will bet lots of promoters bringing girls there.
And the best part is that I'll have a place to party. For an example I want to throw a party - I already have the place with all the alcohol and sound equipment and such.


It'll also be cool to buy s trip club with really hot dancers but that's a topic for another time.

Any and all suggestions and tips will be greatly appreciated.




Ico

 

[Godsninja]

This sounds really intense, I would be very careful. My 2cents: Make sure that if you hire someone, to make sure you REALLY like them. If you don't like them, even if they are a jedi master with women, would you enjoy partying with him? No. Get to know him for a while, at least a week IMO, before committing. Also, I disagree with you buying free drinks for everyone. If people are there at a club, they are expecting to pay for drinks. They should expect to pay for their own if being with you and your wingman. I guess..there are..exceptions.. based on your style..? I however, would rather buy my wingman a drink.

Also, if you want to improve with girls in general, get him to film you (discreetly..) doing day game (one of the greatest ways to meet nice girls and have a lot of fun).

Be careful.

 

[topcat]

Shitttt buddy 100K? Cover the flight costs and I'm there bro, just say the word.

..On a more serious note though, save your money. You really don't need to spend all that to get women, nor a wingman. Diligence, persistence and patience are free. In terms of wingmen, if you put your all into this pick up stuff you'll eventually run into somebody of caliber in this game who can be of assistance. Just keep working hard, all of us beginners are in the same boat (maybe not financially but yeah...).

All the best,

Topcat

 

[Marty]

While you're waiting for the applications to roll in, Ico, here's a suggestion for you. For free

You have your own company, right? Employees and everything?

There must be some among your employees who try to kiss up to you all the time because you're the owner... every company has those. Hell, I even have some in "my" organization, and I'm not even in the top level of management, let alone the owner.

Round up a half-dozen of these cocksuckers and tell them you want them to accompany you to a busy social venue one evening. They'll do it, partly in an attempt to please you by acceding to your request, and partly because they salivate at the opportunity to suck cock when actually there.

In the venue, have them work for your attention. "Johnny, so tell us about the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you."

"Uh, well, when I was a kid..."

"Oh man, what a boring story this is shaping up to be. Paddy, can you do better than that?"

Lean back and let them do all the work. Adopt a "king" pose and have them follow your lead on everything. Pretty soon, the females in the venue are going to start noticing you commanding everyone effortlessly and are going to want to talk to you... you may have a few actually put themselves in close proximity of your table.

The danger with the wingman is that if you're taking direction from him, girls are going to pick up on that and get very interested in him, not you. Remember, women see through "formal" functional lines (like you paying him) and detect the "informal" hierarchy beneath (who is actually leading whom).

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Going off of Marty's advice, why not use that advice to put yourself into situations where you can network with a lot of hot girls and get to talk to them?

1. Parties at the playboy manson
2. Find a gig like model photographer and pay to get in the industry

The problem with the Wingman is that for 100k a lot of guys will BS you. I have seen it with PUA where guys charge poor young men with little confidence thousands of dollars for a bootcamp to improve their life and it rarely works.

 

[Oskar]

This would probably lead to a unique and interesting relationship...

If you do this, you should totally make a documentary on it. We see your interview process, your choice, his initial thoughts on you, your progress, the falling out, the reunion, infield commentary... the works. Hmm, I think I smell an Oscar

-Oskar

 

[Godsninja]

I like Marty's and Oskar's idea. If I had a lot of money I could throw around I would try to get a documentary of my life going, just like trailer park boys, but real life. 100K for that kind of service, well, anybody who is REALLY good with girls that could REALLY help you, may not even want to take that deal up. Think Chase.. What I'm saying is, seeing yourself on camera can really take you outside of yourself and show you how you really come across. It would sort of form a bridge between who you are outside, to who you are inside.

Maybe it's just me, but filming yourself in general documentary style while attempting to completely change your life is completely bad-ass in and of itself. Nobody could ever say, "Ico132 is boring". You got a film crew following you around!

Sorry if I'm not on the subject, but these guys make a good point about the 100k.. Get some ol buddies together, and make a fuckin documentary!

 

[trashKENNUT]

Usually....

Consultants charge $1000 for "Meet and Greet", $500 for an hour of personal meeting. Chase himself will cost you probably $1000 bucks per night. I rather you go with Chase than with someone else.

Simple way to attend cool parties? Be a Popular Youtuber. Hint hint, Jenna Marbles, Ryan Higa.

Zac

 

[Nova]

200k and im game.

100k now, 100k after i have turned you into a fully fledged ladies man, sound good?

 

[132]

First I appreciate all the people offering help, but the thing is that I need someone who is Bulgarian. You guys might be awesome but you're American or something else. You don't speak the language, know the people, etc.

I might call you up when I'm traveling to the US or UK Australia, etc.

ZacAdam

Usually....

Consultants charge $1000 for "Meet and Greet", $500 for an hour of personal meeting. Chase himself will cost you probably $1000 bucks per night. I rather you go with Chase than with someone else.

Simple way to attend cool parties? Be a Popular Youtuber. Hint hint, Jenna Marbles, Ryan Higa.

Zac

I'm probably gonna have some business in the us in the winter and I'll definitely call Chase for a week of training. (btw I didn't know he did coaching)

As for being a famous youtuber, it's actually in the making - creating a very popular channel but I don't think it'll work like that. As I said I don't live in the US.


Marty

While you're waiting for the applications to roll in, Ico, here's a suggestion for you. For free

You have your own company, right? Employees and everything?

There must be some among your employees who try to kiss up to you all the time because you're the owner... every company has those. Hell, I even have some in "my" organization, and I'm not even in the top level of management, let alone the owner.

Round up a half-dozen of these cocksuckers and tell them you want them to accompany you to a busy social venue one evening. They'll do it, partly in an attempt to please you by acceding to your request, and partly because they salivate at the opportunity to suck cock when actually there.

In the venue, have them work for your attention. "Johnny, so tell us about the most embarrassing thing that ever happened to you."

"Uh, well, when I was a kid..."

"Oh man, what a boring story this is shaping up to be. Paddy, can you do better than that?"

Lean back and let them do all the work. Adopt a "king" pose and have them follow your lead on everything. Pretty soon, the females in the venue are going to start noticing you commanding everyone effortlessly and are going to want to talk to you... you may have a few actually put themselves in close proximity of your table.

The danger with the wingman is that if you're taking direction from him, girls are going to pick up on that and get very interested in him, not you. Remember, women see through "formal" functional lines (like you paying him) and detect the "informal" hierarchy beneath (who is actually leading whom).

Sounds good, but I don't know how well it'll work with a bunch of programmers. But you made A LOT of sense with that last part that it'll seem like he's the man and I'm following him.



Proactivity

Going off of Marty's advice, why not use that advice to put yourself into situations where you can network with a lot of hot girls and get to talk to them?

1. Parties at the playboy manson
2. Find a gig like model photographer and pay to get in the industry

The problem with the Wingman is that for 100k a lot of guys will BS you. I have seen it with PUA where guys charge poor young men with little confidence thousands of dollars for a bootcamp to improve their life and it rarely works.

Actually a week ago a friend of a friend came to me to ask for an investment. He's a really good photographer(though gay) and wants to start his modeling agency. He said he has 10 girls from his university lined up. And will get more university girls who want to become models.

And he doesn't need much money. Like $100k - 150k (for professional equipment) and for me to introduce him to some people and the terms are we will be 50-50 partners(since in my country it's pretty impossible to find someone to invest in you - I know cause when I started at 18, 3 years ago no one wanted to even listen to me). It actually sounds pretty good now. I didn't think about it like that. And they can come in my company's office, since it's huge and open spaced. So I'll be working with really hot girls every day and be the boss. It actually is a great idea. And there will be lots of models to come to parties.


Oskar

This would probably lead to a unique and interesting relationship...

If you do this, you should totally make a documentary on it. We see your interview process, your choice, his initial thoughts on you, your progress, the falling out, the reunion, infield commentary... the works. Hmm, I think I smell an Oscar

-Oskar

Tomi

I like Marty's and Oskar's idea. If I had a lot of money I could throw around I would try to get a documentary of my life going, just like trailer park boys, but real life. 100K for that kind of service, well, anybody who is REALLY good with girls that could REALLY help you, may not even want to take that deal up. Think Chase.. What I'm saying is, seeing yourself on camera can really take you outside of yourself and show you how you really come across. It would sort of form a bridge between who you are outside, to who you are inside.

Maybe it's just me, but filming yourself in general documentary style while attempting to completely change your life is completely bad-ass in and of itself. Nobody could ever say, "Ico132 is boring". You got a film crew following you around!

Sorry if I'm not on the subject, but these guys make a good point about the 100k.. Get some ol buddies together, and make a fuckin documentary!

This idea about the filming sounds really good. But I have one problem - I wouldn't want it to become public and people to see how I'm learning seduction. You know a guy who is learning seduction is not the same as a guy who just "was born with it". It'll make future seductions seem fake. I want the appearance that I've always been good with women, not that I had to learn it. If you understand what I mean. Cause it's frowned upon by the public to learn seduction.



But the thing about the modeling is I think the best advice. It'll cost only 100-150k and I'll own 50% of the company and future earnings. Plus work with tens of hot girls every day in the same office, be the boss, and have lots of hot girls to invite to parties and that would want to kiss up. Plus my fundamentals are really solid, I only need to work more on bodylanguage and interacting with women and I'll be great.

Proactivity, if this works out I'll be inviting you to a party with all the models

 

[Drck]

Dude, I’ll GIVE YOU MONEY so you can teach me what kind of business you have. Fuck the girls!

But don’t be stupid. Your “wingman” can arrange different party girl for $300-500, ok say $3,000 per night seven days a week. That is $21,000 per week, and you are willing to pay $5,000-10,000 for every girl you get. Times 7 days a week, that is a total of $35,000-70,000 per week for your wingman. Multiply by 52 weeks, add to it $100,000 salary, and you got the price…

Why don’t you just call those girls yourself? You’ll save millions…

 

[132]

Dude, I’ll GIVE YOU MONEY so you can teach me what kind of business you have. Fuck the girls!

But don’t be stupid. Your “wingman” can arrange different party girl for $300-500, ok say $3,000 per night seven days a week. That is $21,000 per week, and you are willing to pay $5,000-10,000 for every girl you get. Times 7 days a week, that is a total of $35,000-70,000 per week for your wingman. Multiply by 52 weeks, add to it $100,000 salary, and you got the price…

Why don’t you just call those girls yourself? You’ll save millions…

First it's weird how we place more value on what we don't have. You say to teach you the kind of business I do and fuck the girls, cause I guess you're at least a bit good with girls and have slept with a few, but want to become rich.
I on the other hand haven't slept with girls and I place more value on that. Cause the money is easy for me: release the new software in a week, release the new iphone/Android apps we've almost finished, launch the 2 social media websites we've been working on for 7 months, get the patents for the tech we're developing for private security companies, and keep working on my designs for a revolutionary laptop and smartphone(this is a really long shot and very hard to do so..) and boom I get another couple of hundred million(or more) till the end of the year. It that easy for me. No pressure or worry.

Cause I know how to do it and do it with easy on regular base. But I still haven't managed to get a date (I admit the past month I've done only 6-7 approaches cause I'm swamped with work on the above state projects). So I can say fuck the money I just want girls and I don't care how much it costs me, but I'd prefer to get girls simply because they find me sexy.

So it's no problem for me to pay 10k per lay if it's a girl I really like cause money has no value for me. It's the easiest thing in the world to get more.
For guys who are naturally good with women it might be the opposite: they find it easy and no pressure to get a girl and take her to bed. They can get laid in less than a week - no pressure, no worry, no problem. But then they might be in a tough financial place, having low paying job, or no job. Having no idea how to start a successful business. And they might say fuck the girls(because they're not valuable to them, they can get one when ever they want so they don't care, the same as me with money) just help me start a successful business.




I bet that's why Chase tells us to be hard to get so girls would appreciate us more. Cause people don't appreciate and value what they can easily get.

 

[robbies]

I think this merits further discussion. A lot of us, me included, would like to hear your story of how you became wealthy. I am trying to go into business for myself, but lack the skills and know-how to do so. As you might imagine, I am currently struggling. Please do share what you did, as a number of us will certainly love to hear about it!

 

[trashKENNUT]

Ico132,

I'm probably gonna have some business in the us in the winter and I'll definitely call Chase for a week of training. (btw I didn't know he did coaching)

As for being a famous youtuber, it's actually in the making - creating a very popular channel but I don't think it'll work like that. As I said I don't live in the US.

Btw, in case.

I realize something. I am sure most business would be glad if you spend money on them. IT's a good thing, but they can't help you if you do not know what you want out of it.

Given an example of a driving school, If you decide on attending private lessons, it will be cheaper but it also means you be booking by yourself and you will be motivating yourself to study because it is all on your own. IF you decide on attending driving school, it will be higher price but it also means you do not need to book anything, only select dates and there's teachers to teach you things.

What i mean here is that, you need to at least know where your money is going and what you get out of it. I remember being a student a year ago, and wanting to go different schools and stuff, but i really didn't know what i get from there and importantly, why i want to be there in the first place.

Chase doesn't do coaching anymore but i have heard great review based on what i read from one old article. (Can't remember the website). So yea, spending $100,000 can be good only if you at least know where it's going, and what you get out of it.

Zac

 

[EyManitoba]

Start a social club. Cool guys will come to you. Hell, why not start a place based around supporting GC people. Then you'll have a wide pool to choose from for wings & everyone would respect you. We could take Bulgaria by storm; be a bastion of success.



That might take the fun out of it all tho -- too easy.

-EM

PS Are you just yankin everyone's chains? Seems like an unlikely situation to me, Anon.

 

[132]

I think this merits further discussion. A lot of us, me included, would like to hear your story of how you became wealthy. I am trying to go into business for myself, but lack the skills and know-how to do so. As you might imagine, I am currently struggling. Please do share what you did, as a number of us will certainly love to hear about it!

I might write a forum post on the topic of how I started in the beginning and how money online is made, the real deal not some "buy this ebook and get rich, kind of stuff" but how it really happens and how I started. If Chase likes he can even post them to the article section.

If there are enough people who are interested in reading I'll find time to write one.


EyManitoba

Start a social club. Cool guys will come to you. Hell, why not start a place based around supporting GC people. Then you'll have a wide pool to choose from for wings & everyone would respect you. We could take Bulgaria by storm; be a bastion of success.



That might take the fun out of it all tho -- too easy.

-EM

PS Are you just yankin everyone's chains? Seems like an unlikely situation to me, Anon.

Not at all, but you can believe or not if you want. It's not that difficult. Making 200 million is pretty easy, you just need to be in the tech business and earn 10 million in 1 year(apps like flappy bird earn 1.5 million $ per month from only ads imagine if there were in-app purchases like buy 2 lives for 1$.. there are apps like clash of clans or candy crush that make $1.5+ million per day profit it's just having an addictive app and marketing it so you get millions of people to play it) and your company is evaluated at around 200 million(that's even a bit conservative). Then you can start getting investors or selling stock, etc. Or you can sell it to someone big (like Google, Facebook, etc).

Actually Facebook are dying(Facebook is not cool anymore, young people delete their profiles and are searching for new cool social media sites that don't have their parents, grandparents on there) and are super desperate to save themselves by giving a sh#t tone of money to acquire any social media that they think is a threat. So this is a great strategy - create a social media site that threatens Facebook(or catches their attention) and sell it to them for 100-200 million or more. They are ready to massively overpay - Snapchat is valued at around $800 million(when I last checked) and they were ready to pay 3 billion to buy them, but they told them they won't sell.
Even Chase is making money from GC. It's just a really hard and narrow niche that can't get too big of profits, but props for not quitting to chase money on some other venture. Without GC most of us would be screwed.


The social club might not be a bad idea. I also got another great idea - to start networking with the right kind of people - photographers that know lots of models, modeling agency owners, managers, club owners, musicians that are famous. Even I can sponsor a music video cause it takes 20-30k to shoot one and there are some really famous and good musicians/groups that are not signed with a label cause they want to be independent. And other people like this, that all know and can bring lots of girls to parties and invite me to parties, etc.

 

[Godsninja]

Wow, sounds like your fucking loaded. Yea, I would actually love to hear your story, seeing as how we are about the same age. I'm going into the tech field myself.

I understand that money doesn't mean a lot to you, but one thing I know, and you should too by now, is that it DOES mean a lot to other people. You can blow 10k on a girl, and it won't even matter, at all. But if she knew that, what would she think? I'm not sure what kind of movies are out there that get this point across, but the bottom line is, you absolutely do not ever want a girl to want you, just for you're money. You should look into this, cuz girls will use you, given the chance!

Keep learning and advancing your social skills, one day you'll be rich AND have all the personal success in romantic affairs. All it takes is 2 things.

Hard work - putting the time to go out and meet new people (cold approaching)
Smart work - reading up on your game, mindset, etc. Also, analyzing where your recent past failure (cold approach) went wrong, and what you could have done instead.

Don't get me wrong, your ideas for your business with models and owning clubs, and stuff like that, are great..but, IMO, nothing, NOTHING, works wonders on your roundness as a person, better than cold approaches. They even become fun! I mean common, what is better than seeing a beautiful girl walking on the road, building a connection with her, and then having her in your bed? This is cold approaching.

These take commitment, and they are both essentially free for you. There is no easy way to do this, it's hard work (especially for your ego), but eventually, if you DO go out there every day and just say hi to a few girls you find attractive, wherever they are (walking on the road, I prefer girls who are sitting), while simultaneously work on your game inside your brain, you will find that it will become easier and easier, and you'll find success, without a wingman.

You are your own wingman, the most effective tool you will ever possess.

 

[Drck]

Hey Ico132, great business. You are right about the value, the more value you put on it the more problems you have (generally speaking). So it is true that when you place too much value on girls that you will have problems. But if you start seeing her as low value it will be easier. If I were you I would simply pay for some party girls, go several times to a strip bar or use escort. You’ll do it several times and you’ll see how easy it is...

Having forum like this except focused on business is another great idea....

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

100k...

Hay OP, I have an idea, why don't you just get involved in the porn business? I don't mean shoot porn but hang out with the guys are Bangbros and stuff, they have tons of slutty girls around and you will become a name in that crowd. If it is sex you want, I don't see why you can't use 100k for that. You can also vacation in Las Vegas which seems to have a lot of guys that chase girls are would be willing to be your wingman for as little as say 1k.

If you had the brains to make a lot of money, you should have the brains to use a lot less than 100k to get a wingman or be able to do well with women.