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PAYING women to go on dates (not just dinner)

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The Byronic Man said:
Isis said:
if someone(that is not a friend) is being rude or just nosy and ever asks, 'whats wrong with you, why don't you have a girlfriend, or why aren't you married yet?'' Say, ''because I am lucky, I guess''. hhehe..
Brilliant!

That is perfect! I will definitely use that the next time someone asks.

Great way to frame the conversation in a way that makes you look socially savvy and weakening the question asker's position. This type of question far too often brings up victim mentality feelings when asked to beta males. They will either go on a rant about how shallow women are or start feeling sorry for themselves. This leads to males saying "we gotta get you laid man!" and women saying "awww there will be a girl out there for you." Both of these outcomes are horrible though. When you have a bunch of guys trying to "sell" you to women, they know something is wrong with you since alpha males don't need to be sold. Women on the other hand feel no sexual feeling for guys feeling sorry for themselves. Their motherly instincts may kick in, but they ultimately would like to pass you on to "another" women that will go for you since they can't feel attraction for a guy they look down upon.
 
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Hmm, interesting..I dunno, though. Hehe, I had a guy play the lonely, 'I don't have a girlfriend or wife and kids, but wish I had one because everyone else I know does', card with me once..and I fell for that one, so it worked on me ;) Well, maybe he meant it, but he didn't want it with me, per say. But, it was a different circumstance, too(long story)....Anyway, I can understand how that might be annoying to have people bring that up in a group setting..geesh, men do that a lot too? Nosy women will say that at times to other women(usually, in regards to marriage), but I didn't know men said it, too. I thought it was cool and macho for a male to be single :) Certain people can just be nosy and ask questions without thinking. sometimes..they might ask a question that is NOTB and the best comeback is always a witty remark that basically tells them so, but in an indirect way used with humour. It shuts them up ;)

I run and hide when certain family members or functions come around too...hehe
 

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Isis said:
Hmm, interesting..I dunno, though. Hehe, I had a guy play the lonely, 'I don't have a girlfriend or wife and kids, but wish I had one because everyone else I know does', card with me once..and I fell for that one, so it worked on me ;) Well, maybe he meant it, but he didn't want it with me, per say. But, it was a different circumstance, too(long story)....Anyway, I can understand how that might be annoying to have people bring that up in a group setting..geesh, men do that a lot too? Nosy women will say that at times to other women(usually, in regards to marriage), but I didn't know men said it, too. I thought it was cool and macho for a male to be single :) Certain people can just be nosy and ask questions without thinking. sometimes..they might ask a question that is NOTB and the best comeback is always a witty remark that basically tells them so, but in an indirect way used with humour. It shuts them up ;)

I run and hide when certain family members or functions come around too...hehe

LOL. Yes being single is looked high upon by males but you must be having one night stands, casual hookups, FWBs, have prospects, etc while you are associated with that status. Guys don't necessarily ask "are you in a serious relationship?" or "what's wrong with you, why don't you have a girlfriend yet?" However if you are single and have no prospects, guys will either think something is wrong with you or that you are gay. My "normal" friends that I see fleetingly just stopped asking. I never told them about having Asperger's but they know I am quirky and have a cynical/dark sense of humor. One even said "I figured it out! You are the way you are since you chose to watch Seinfeld and Frasier when you were a kid instead of watching the Simpsons and South Park like the rest of the kids." Or that I am like an old man in a younger guy's body since I would play Conservative talk radio in the car instead of bumping hip-hop, dance, and/or rock music in my car. I see music more as personal thing I enjoy while listening to headphones.
 

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Well today I am officially one year older. Hence today (Day 1 of my quest to becoming a better man) would be a great starting point to change my life around. I have one year left being a twenty-something and hopefully by the time I reach 30 (next year) I will have made several new high quality friends (both male and female) and have some fine ladies to enjoy my 30th B-Day with. Hopefully they will want to spoil me for my birthday and "paying" them will be completely out of the equation. Joining the forums last week was a good first step into finally taking action and "doing" something about my predicament. In spite of the fact that I have been reading articles from the main page since April, it was still a passive way of developing myself. I was more or less becoming a keyboard jockey and not applying any of the lessons in the real world (except for my last few payed dates, which for one at least got me to the point of being invited to a girl's house for the first time even though I chickened out and did not act on the opportunity).

Now that I have had the opportunity to spill my guts out via this long thread and get this out of my system, I am ready to move forward. I kept my experiences from whatyourprice and using escort services largely to myself with the exception of telling two of my long time buddies (one an emotional vampire/victim mentality type and the other a guy who actually got into a relationship with an escort (his first GF) and pulled her out of the business [he pays her bills and she does not have to work now]). I never got any feedback from any "normal" people in fear of them thinking I was a deviant for using such sites, so this was my outlet for now. I am hoping that when I come back to this thread a year from now, I will feel as if the person writing (me) is a stranger now and I will have adapted the abundance mindset and have several beautiful women in my life (without paying them!) that like me for being smooth, chill, confident, dominant, and exciting. I can't guarantee that I will permanently stop using whatsyourprice but if I continue to do so, I will be more smart about the whole dynamic there (utilizing Isis' advice). In regards to escorts I also can't guarantee I will permanently stop using their services but I do need to focus on moving the ratio towards 80-90% non payed sex versus 10-20% payed sex as Chase suggested and develop PUA skills.

Hopefully this thread can also serve as a mood enhancer for guys that are in a slump or are dealing with depression. Seriously I don't know if any guy's story can compare to how pathetic mine is! So if you are thinking of offing yourself, stop, put the gun down, and feel better knowing that you probably have a much more normal existence than I have ever had. I took the day off from work today to enjoy my birthday (alone of course) and to officially start on the Newbie assignment (scouting out local areas to meet girls). I will transition my ramblings to the journal area soon and begin to track my progress there. I still can't believe I am actually going to start cold approaching women in public but I know that it must be done to push me out of my comfort zone. In all seriousness the idea of jumping out of a plane seems easier than having to approach women on the streets (if you are as introverted and socially awkward as I), hahaha.
 

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Happy birthday, old man ;) Hope it was a good one! Hehe, don't put too much emphasis on 30, though...it's still soooo young..but, I understand you are using it as a benchmark. Have a good bday!
 
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