FR Physical Game. A requirement in nightclubs. Pure Verbal Game fails

[PureGold]

Alright so,

I have been a Daygamer all this time. I recently started going out to nightclubs and noticed that Physical game is a requirement in nightclubs and that pure verbal game doesn't work in those environments. Women go there to play the Physical Game and if you are not good at it, your chances of success are 0.2.

From what I see, successful guys are the ones who are good at dancing and go physical with women very fast. At the other hand, those who delay being physical and play a pure verbal game get rejected. The act of delaying physicality disqualifies you completely.

I never thought it was a requirement. I always thought possible to pull girls from there using pure verbal game, second generation game but the reality is far from that. Since I have been a pure daygamer all this time, most of my game is verbal. I do some physical game like handshakes, holding hands, high fives, maybe palm reading but I have limited myself to hugging, dancing and other hard ones which demand more compliance from the girls. Girls are usually not so compliant to hard physical game during the day, therefore my muscules are not that great in that area.

Anyways, It was 2:00 am and I had approached a lot of girls with no success at all, no blow outs but sets going nowhere, failing to realize that the missing piece was physical game and its importance to success in nightclubs. I got tired and decided to go home and as I walked to the exit, I saw this gorgeous girl, an HB9, in my mind I was like

"OMG, what is that piece of beauty?, I obviously will approach this girl", other than that I didnt think anymore. I am usually very outcome independent at that time of the night

Anyways, I approached her. it was something funny like this:

Me: "Excuse me" (in front of her, but not too close) I make a pause and gauge her reaction to my approach and she was shocked (to my boldness I guess)

Her: silence

A lot of sexual tension but I said to myself, "ok bro you can deal with it" I let 3 seconds pass and followed like this

Me: Hi, how are you?

And She finally said "Fine, how are you? I was like "thanks God, I thought this was a blow out"

Ok, now I was like "Ok PureGold, what path can I take right now? Do I say she is cute and make this perfectly direct right away? Mmm No, that is gonna be an instant rejection. I mean I could but I dont wanna play the numbers game this time. I have to approach her in a more fun way. I have to give her some kind of value first before being so direct. I have to show her some kind of personality and charisma first

I used the move: "Pretend she is not the girl you wanna fuck" and I went like:

Me: "Where are the hot girls in this place? I have been looking all night left and right and nothing, do you have any idea where can I find them? and I mean Hot 10 (this routine is fucking funny lol)

funny enough she was kind of crazy

Her: Yes I know where they are

Me: Really? Thinking again, you can be my wingwoman, maybe you can help me to pick up a very hot one

Her: Yeah I can do that

Me: come with me (I grab her hand and lead her to another place, because we were close to the exit door of the nightclub)

I go to a quiet place with the plan of escalating using second gen verbal and calibrate her level of interest and pull her if so. But first, I locked in and asked her some light rapport questions before sexualizing. Some like what is your name?, where are you from?, the type of "get to know first"
to establish a bit of comfort for what will come: verbal escalation.

Ok, after 2 min of light rapport exchange. It was the time to move that set towards the end goal: Sex.

The best and easiest way I start sexualizing the convo is using UMP sexualization routines and I let the conversation flows towards Teevster sex talk since it is more difficult to pull them off out of the blue.

Anyways I went like

Me: What kind of guy do you like?

Her: I dont have a type

Me: Every woman has a type, it just that they are not consciously aware of it sometimes

Her: silence (making eye contact with me)

Me: I know exactly what type of guy do you like?

Me: You like dominant guys

Her: I don't

I had to reframe dominant at this point and after that I decided to push harder to know where her boundaries are because she was still there (the biggest IOI that you can get).

Me: I bet that you love to be spanked?

This question triggered a massive ASD and She tried to leave but I grabbed her hand and pulled her again and I said "Sorry, Sorry, most girls like that a lot, maybe you dont like that, maybe you like other things" she got silence and quiet but still making eye contact with me

When I grabbed her, She smiled and I got the feeling She was expecting me to escalate physically with her but I didn't

At that point I didn't know how to do with her because verbal escalation wasn't working. ASD was going massive every time I tried.

I remember at this point, her friends came close at where we were (about 3 feets) and she decided to leave me again, this time, forever


Probably spinning her, hugging her, brushing her hair and then going for the kiss would have been a better convo.

Some people say Physical game triggers stronger ASD than verbal escalation but I doubt about it, specially in the nightclub.

Other people say that Physical Game is what seduction is

Whatever it is, I feel Physical Game could have changed the outcome with that girl



Love, PureGold

 

[Skills]

first i want you to read this post were i explain the problems with posters that reach conclusion such as yours:

Socializing - The fallacy of seduction success....

So I always write a blog and/or a post, based on an observation, my life, the field or something going on... So the sequence is, i usually make a post then get feedback then usually turn it into a youtube video..... Recently i made a goal of try to do a youtube a week, but it has been 2 weeks...

www.skilledseducer.com

Physical game works a lot in loud night clubs were you can barely talk too due to noise, specially in dance floors that is how i got laid the most (But is limited now a days since dtf went to online, social media).... However, your conclusions and your applications of second gen were off, plus ump does some weird water down stuff that in my opinion is meh....

Anyways, that sex talk you did it was meh as well "you like to be spanked".... How second generation works and the whole goal is to totally avoid asd, and is suppose to be INDIRECT..... "you like to be spanked" is a direct statement question, this is NOT how second gen is used.... Look a sample on how i do it:

Verbal game lay were I used second generation verbals (the 8 orgasms routine) Tales from the club - The Skills Method

Disclaimer.- If you are serious about seduction and getting good, I would advice to read this post, before proceeding to read this tale from the clubs. Soon I will write … Continue Reading →

www.theskillsmethod.com

 

[Beck Bass]

Too much, too soon, your isolation was nice, I think, but once you get a girl isolated it should be smoooth sailing, not going for the kill like a maniac lol

You wanna to imply she wants the D, not say it outright, not only it's crass, but it kills intrigue, girls like to feel you out, so just suggesting is the best way to go. I understand that you had many interactions before and likely was eager to get to it quick, but desperation doesn't win you anything.

I know exactly what type of guy do you like?

I thought you was gonna say something like "me", since she was looking at you (like describing yourself in a funny way, like, if you're a tall blonde you say... you're into tall blondes, aren't you? ; ) but instead you just said generic sexual stuff, bad game. Also you make an affirmation, which puts you in a corner, if she disagrees, you're building negative compliance, which is what happened. Just make a guess in a funny way, you can gauge how she reacts and go from there, but the no you got leaves you with no options.

I bet that you love to be spanked?

That not quite how those guesses work, to get to this sexual stuff you wanna seed it first, get her confortable with you and that you're a sexual (more like sexy) guy, and she can be free with you, no judgements. You could start with a very vague cold read to get there, like "I bet that you are quite an adventurous girl", like something she can agree on and it's kinda vague, it doesn't even have to be this close to what you're aiming at lol, then you slowly take the convo there. The girls that are ready to say they love getting spanked to an almost total stranger out of the blue are the ones you could be shagging on a dark alleyway already, so why would you be talking? lol

From what I see, successful guys are the ones who are good at dancing and go physical with women very fast. At the other hand, those who delay being physical and play a pure verbal game get rejected. The act of delaying physicality disqualifies you completely.

I have some LRs from night game, mostly clubs, you could benefit from reading those, @Skills also knows club game inside out, read his stuff! Caveman game can only take you so far. @Teevster also uses quite some verbal game on clubs, go read his as well. On night clubs you can be more overt with chase frames and touching, but other than that, it's mostly normal ass game.

 

[PureGold]

Too much, too soon, your isolation was nice, I think, but once you get a girl isolated it should be smoooth sailing, not going for the kill like a maniac lol

Ok, that is a good point

but instead you just said generic sexual stuff, bad game

That is the sequence of Liendberg from UMP. I have seen it many times working exactly like that. Instead I have seen other indirect methods of sexualization getting less success. I don't think I failed due to bad sexualization game but because I didn't escalate physically which missed the point and how important it was in nightclubs and that is why I shared as the title of this post.

 

[Beck Bass]

have seen it many times working exactly like that. Instead I have seen other indirect methods of sexualization getting less success. I don't think I failed due to bad sexualization game but because I didn't escalate physically which missed the point and how important it was in nightclubs and that is why I shared as the title of this post.

Yeah, I mean, game is mostly how you make the girl feel, not logically what you say, I feel like this can work, but the girl needs to be pretty primed for it already, which wasn't the case. It's not necessarily just the kino, just also you're trying to fastforward too hard