Pick Up Coaches Today

[funkyjam]

Any of you guys worked with dating coaches you’d actually recommend?

I’ve been thinking about whether bringing in a coach could help me level up faster—get some outside perspective, spot blind spots I might not see, and keep me accountable. There are so many options out there, though, and it’s hard to separate the legit ones from the hype merchants.

I’m curious if you’ve had direct experience with someone who made a noticeable difference in your results. What did they focus on—approach, text game, mindset, style? And did you feel the investment was worth it?

Would appreciate any first-hand recommendations, or even names to avoid.

 

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Would say Nick Krauser too , Tom Torero and Liam Mcrae - most of their stuff is found free on the internet

As for individual coaching I dont think any are worth the price personally that time is better spent acquiring higher quality wingmen

 

[theReason]

Basic problem with dating coaches is three-fold. But I’m only going to touch on one point here.

Men do not want to see other men sexually successful, and women do not want to see sexually unsuccessful men become sexually successful.

So dating coaches, unless they are inherently aware of the fact that their subconscious desire is to, at best, keep a person at their existing level without helping them (and, more typically, to slightly worsen their outcome for their trouble), and make adjustments to their approach based on this fact, are basically just only going to help you incidentally in the process of fucking you over.

Chase is an anomaly in that everything about this entire forum and site goes against what should be within a man’s ability to assist others—and that is his actual stated intention. And his empirical approach to seduction makes that possible.

The second point is that the essence of an attractive man to women is that he sexually suppresses other men.

The third point is that as a person with a client, the fundamental desire is to deal with them as little as possible and yet get as much out of them as you can monetarily. So see what Skills says here. He is a good guy, most guys will be much more infuriated to see you succeed and neither give up nor become a chronic patient. Dating coaches charge a lot and yet the only way I can think of for getting decent insight out of any non-bad-faith-actor coach would be to book a whole bunch of time with him in a payment plan (with a good chunk up-front but not all up-front), then only actually book yourself for the first 6 hours of time, so that your welcome doesn’t wear thin, and then just pay off the rest of your plan, take the little advice you got as the best you’re going to get and leave the rest of the money as a tip. I don’t know why but this sounds vaguely like something I’ve heard about paying your advisors from some philosopher of antiquity. Maybe @Chase would be able to place it.

 

[Atlas IV]

Men do not want to see other men sexually successful, and women do not want to see sexually unsuccessful men become sexually successful.

My brain hurts trying to figure out what you just said.

The second point is that the essence of an attractive man to women is that he sexually suppresses other men.

Genuinely curious, where do you guys get this red pill garbage from... Is it Reddit? Manosphere? Andrew Tate? This kind of thinking is just so divorced from reality.

 

[Levo]

Basic problem with dating coaches is three-fold. But I’m only going to touch on one point here.

Men do not want to see other men sexually successful, and women do not want to see sexually unsuccessful men become sexually successful.

So dating coaches, unless they are inherently aware of the fact that their subconscious desire is to, at best, keep a person at their existing level without helping them (and, more typically, to slightly worsen their outcome for their trouble), and make adjustments to their approach based on this fact, are basically just only going to help you incidentally in the process of fucking you over.

Chase is an anomaly in that everything about this entire forum and site goes against what should be within a man’s ability to assist others—and that is his actual stated intention. And his empirical approach to seduction makes that possible.

The second point is that the essence of an attractive man to women is that he sexually suppresses other men.

The third point is that as a person with a client, the fundamental desire is to deal with them as little as possible and yet get as much out of them as you can monetarily. So see what Skills says here. He is a good guy, most guys will be much more infuriated to see you succeed and neither give up nor become a chronic patient. Dating coaches charge a lot and yet the only way I can think of for getting decent insight out of any non-bad-faith-actor coach would be to book a whole bunch of time with him in a payment plan (with a good chunk up-front but not all up-front), then only actually book yourself for the first 6 hours of time, so that your welcome doesn’t wear thin, and then just pay off the rest of your plan, take the little advice you got as the best you’re going to get and leave the rest of the money as a tip. I don’t know why but this sounds vaguely like something I’ve heard about paying your advisors from some philosopher of antiquity. Maybe @Chase would be able to place it.

1) This is scarcity mindset, and even if it wasnt you're assuming their subconscious is overriding their desire to have a successful business. There are billions of women in the world, why do I give a shit if youre the biggest pimp in _incert_city_here_ ? I could care less. If anything I want you to become that so that I can get your reviews and it will help me make more money.

2) Who told you attractive men sexually suppress other men? I mean, maybe I expect to have first dibs on the best females, but beyond that I am actively helping set up my good friends. If Im not super interested in a girl but I think she is a good match for my boy, then 100% I am setting them up. As do all other high value people. I'm definitely not trying to suppress aka cock block everyone else around me. Again, there are THOUSANDS of girls in your city, and I can only have a few at a time, so why do I care what everyone else has?

3) Again this is scarcity mentality and conspiratory thinking. I work in healthcare, and I can assure you all the doctors I know want to see their patients healed and with positive outcomes, they arent looking to give you half ass treatments so you will have more appointments. Same with dating coaches.

You are correct that a coach wont be able to fix you in a weekend. The expensive bootcamps are to give you an info dump (Most students dont read prior to the bootcamp) and to identify your glaring sticking points. Dating is no different than any other endeavor. You need to practice 10x by yourself for every one hour you spend with a coach. Coaches are there to guide and advise you and see your sticking points you are blind to.

You wouldnt expect to pay 3k to a guitar coach and be able to go play a concert in a weekend, but people expect it from dating coaches? Ridiculous. Go put in the work yourself and pay for consulting when you hit a slump and cant figure out why. I can assure you that so many guys are lazy or want to argue with you with whatever dumb theory they showed up with, coaches will love working with you and be excited and energized to see you succeed if youre one of the people who are willing to listen and put in the work.

 

[AspiringStoic]

So dating coaches, unless they are inherently aware of the fact that their subconscious desire is to, at best, keep a person at their existing level without helping them (and, more typically, to slightly worsen their outcome for their trouble), and make adjustments to their approach based on this fact, are basically just only going to help you incidentally in the process of fucking you over.

Absolute nonsense. Reeks of deep scarcity. What I would give to have some of my friends that I care about who are struggling with dating to help them.


And the reason I am where I am today is because of the help and assistance I have received from OTHER MEN! Dont broadcast your own insecurities on others.

 

[AspiringStoic]

The second point is that the essence of an attractive man to women is that he sexually suppresses other men

Oh my god. This is even worse. Absolutely ridiculous shit.