Picky women?

[allanmogale]

I'm a beginner and I'd really love to know How do you handle or get girls that you are just not their type (picky women, I'd say)? I mean you continuously get other girls with your usual personality, sexy walk, tone etc. and the knowledge that you attain regarding seduction, but when it comes to her non of your attempts seem to have the tiniest of impact on her...

 

[Clout]

You can try pre-selection but honestly if she is not interested, it's more effort trying to pick her up than it is moving to the next one. Usually women are more interested, when you are not.

There are also other factors like; if she friend-zoned you (have you known her long?), you just aren't what she wants in a man (beauty truly is in the eyes of the beholder), she is hung up over someone else, you missed your window, she has had a bad experience with someone she associates with you (look like a possessive ex), etc...

 

[Estate]

It's actually a good topic.

I've been wondering a little myself what the "it" factor is sometimes.
Generally the more attractive or sought-after a girl is... the more picky they can often come across. But that's what we're all in the game for, right? The elusive "10".

I had an experience a few days ago on a date. I felt she was a little lukewarm in her attitude beforehand but she actually asked ME if I was free for drinks. So I set a time.
It was obvious from the get go... she set herself on a bit of a pedastil and tried to make me "work". Very high opinion of herself and difficult to break her down and open up. I did ok with opening her up but I could tell from the get go she wasn't really into it.

It made me wonder though... SHE actually asked me about drinks before I had a chance to... and the fact that she went out with me at all....
I didn't really get it. Why bother if you're not interested but she went through with it.

Like I said, I feel I actually made good progress on a girl who was being very difficult but she wasn't a knockout or anything and her attitude began to turn me off so no great loss...
Just curious about girls like this I guess.

 

[Clout]

By being picky she essentially ups her value...which is good for her means better mating partners (maybe she felt too attainable by asking in the first place?).

Whenever a girl acts aloof (like chase says), I just act aloof back and much like you Estate the attitude turns me off so I don't care if it doesn't work. Most times however it does work (I have even tried this with high status males...it was funny to watch). I now just tend to mirror or invest less than them. If they not saying much I feel no pressure to, if they saying a lot I let them role and try and frame it sexually every now and then. I am open to other suggestions though.

 

[Little Jester]

I think I have a nose for picking up these aloof girls and I actually call them out on it. Don't know if this translates well to English. In Dutch it is very funny to tell them they are acting like a diva. Whenever I tell them that (with a smile), they usually feel caught and get giggly or defensive or whatever. Usually have a much smoother interaction with them thereafter.

My 2 cents

 

[Thinkingenigma]

I think I have a nose for picking up these aloof girls and I actually call them out on it. Don't know if this translates well to English. In Dutch it is very funny to tell them they are acting like a diva. Whenever I tell them that (with a smile), they usually feel caught and get giggly or defensive or whatever. Usually have a much smoother interaction with them thereafter.

My 2 cents

I went out a couple times with a girl like that. When I called her on it, she not only copped to it, but considered it a source of pride. We didn't go out again.

 

[Estate]

I think I have a nose for picking up these aloof girls and I actually call them out on it. Don't know if this translates well to English. In Dutch it is very funny to tell them they are acting like a diva. Whenever I tell them that (with a smile), they usually feel caught and get giggly or defensive or whatever. Usually have a much smoother interaction with them thereafter.

My 2 cents

I went out a couple times with a girl like that. When I called her on it, she not only copped to it, but considered it a source of pride. We didn't go out again.

My experience too.
Perhaps there is a better way to handling it, I'm not sure. The best chance I've given myself with these girls is to basically match the persona they put forward.
If they are very picky or a slight diva then coming off weak in any way will not be tolerated, you need to match their status... but I haven't had 100% success with this.

Calling them out on something like they do actually believe seems to backfire.

For example, if someone said to me "Estate, you really think you're a good football player don't you? I'm on to you"...
... I COULD say "Oh, you've got me, you must know a lot about football to call me on it" and then come crashing down to earth.
BUT... I DO believe I am... so if someone tried to bring me down to earth it just feels like they are taking value, almost negging me to bring me to their level.

Girls who consider themselves "high status" often seem proud of that fact, simply calling them out on it will just make them go "Yeah, I am, so what".
Like the cool kids in school... Tell them "You're really not that cool are you... it's all an act"... what will their responce be? A breakdown telling you that yes, it's all just an act to hide their insecurities? Or do they just give you a wedgie?

 

[Little Jester]

Interesting to have that difference in how this is experienced. But maybe there is also a slight language barrier thing here.
To comment on myself, maybe calling her out on it isn't the best wording. I guess it's more a tease on my part, rather then trying to bring her value down.

I'd not think and act on "Damm she is being a bitch", I more think and act disconnected from it and look at her and basically say "Aw cute. You're doing that aloof thing with me" and I tell her that. I suppose I communicate to her that I'm not bothered by her being a diva and I actually reward her behavior with a hug if appropriate. And I really mean that. I think her being aloof is sexy in a way and I'd reward the behavior. Sooner or later they melt and there is a giggly little girl underneath there anyway.