OK, this is an extremely interesting case for me -as they all are when I'm not sure I understand what's going on-.
And it's happened now several times with these kind of "push-back" girls/behaviours.
We met outside of a bar, she was waiting for her friends but I convinced her to walk to the beach, where we talked and I got to know her a bit.
I'm pretty sure she liked me, but was presenting all the signs of the "rioutous" kind of girl, like for example not standing still and walking away and giving me her back while we talked only to come back after I kept talking.
Another two signs common when I see this behaviour : she refused hand holding, refused doing anything together right now -but she's still around- and once I told her we'd go back to my place she instead started walking away towards HER place.
ONLY, of course, another common sign with these girls, to turn around and telling me to go to her while I instead was telling her to come to me.
This is a frame battle you'd often lose with these kind of girls and brings you nowhere -or at least, that's been the case for me-.
The consequences are: she's angry you're not together, you're angry with her, emotions run high.. But if you wanna be with her... You gotta follow her in these extreme cases.
Indeed if I stayed on my spot I'd have lost her, so I got up and followed her... Until her room.
She says she doesn't want me to go but it's token words.
She had a guy friend standing downstairs at her hotel, I said NOTHING to him while the two of them talked, as a matter of fact I said nothing to her either, then just kept following her upstairs.
BACK TO HER ROOM
It all felt weird, then once in the room which she was sharing with friends I started kissing her neck, only for her to pull away.
Happened several times, then she went for a shower, came back, we sat close on the bed, kissed her again on the neck and of course, as any time I go for anything physical, she gets up to move again.
CONVERSATION
I say we have a great connection and we should finish to explore it.
And of course she refuses the frame (I don't even know your name..)
I say we both like each other and she denies.
She adds "why do I think she's an easy girl" and that I should go find some other girl.
All she does is putting up obstacles.
She tells me "this isn't happening" and tells me to leave... Many many times. She also say she could scream for her friend to hear -to which I play offended as I'm not a rapist and that's offensive and she backtracks-.
She doesn't really mean it for me to leave -most of the times at least, some other times it seemed a bit more serious- yet... It does nothing to bring us together either and slowly and irreparably destroys the mood.
Getting physical would seem the most logical answer but I can't properly escalate as every time I kiss her neck or get closer she moves away all the times -sometimes drastically-.
She goes outside of the room more than once, at times pretending she's about to call her friend -except telling him "it's all good" when he asks her-, and it takes time and efforts to bring her back in... And a lot of words.
Then we talk on the bed, this time she sits further away and my last ditch effort is being very explicit she can have an orgasm.
She say she doesn't want an orgasm with me. More than once.
Now a refusal of the sexual frame is a big one since this is the final offer I can make. And I'm running out of options.
Going back from here would be weak.
So this sex conversation goes on for a a couple of minutes, with her continuously refusing.
MY EXIT
Then all of a sudden I quickly get up, take my hat and quickly and coolly say it was a pleasure meeting her -without looking at her-.
She replies the same and adds something more which is interesting because I moved quick and I'm giving her my back.
I feel she's stunned by my sudden and unannounced exit and I hear some noise too, I think she got up.
But I only turned around once downstairs and she didn't follow me down -didn't expect her to come that far anyway-.
I got a raise out of her but.. At most it was good for my ego, but it didn't help us getting closer (felt a bit like Gable in Gone with the wind, I even had a similar hat lol).
I believe earlier she had added me on FB but then deleted the requested, probably angry/stung by my sudden exit and probably annoyed by our failed escalation -I say our as I felt I did 90% of what I should have done-.
Short of physically holding her back while she moved away and pushing her on the bed, which I'm thinking might have been something to try.
YOUR THOUGHTS
Guys, shout out to you, this a bit advanced as it's a relatively rare behaviour, yet I've now seen it several times and always failed to master it (if you've experienced it you know what I'm talking about).
Thoughts... ?
And it's happened now several times with these kind of "push-back" girls/behaviours.
We met outside of a bar, she was waiting for her friends but I convinced her to walk to the beach, where we talked and I got to know her a bit.
I'm pretty sure she liked me, but was presenting all the signs of the "rioutous" kind of girl, like for example not standing still and walking away and giving me her back while we talked only to come back after I kept talking.
Another two signs common when I see this behaviour : she refused hand holding, refused doing anything together right now -but she's still around- and once I told her we'd go back to my place she instead started walking away towards HER place.
ONLY, of course, another common sign with these girls, to turn around and telling me to go to her while I instead was telling her to come to me.
This is a frame battle you'd often lose with these kind of girls and brings you nowhere -or at least, that's been the case for me-.
The consequences are: she's angry you're not together, you're angry with her, emotions run high.. But if you wanna be with her... You gotta follow her in these extreme cases.
Indeed if I stayed on my spot I'd have lost her, so I got up and followed her... Until her room.
She says she doesn't want me to go but it's token words.
She had a guy friend standing downstairs at her hotel, I said NOTHING to him while the two of them talked, as a matter of fact I said nothing to her either, then just kept following her upstairs.
BACK TO HER ROOM
It all felt weird, then once in the room which she was sharing with friends I started kissing her neck, only for her to pull away.
Happened several times, then she went for a shower, came back, we sat close on the bed, kissed her again on the neck and of course, as any time I go for anything physical, she gets up to move again.
CONVERSATION
I say we have a great connection and we should finish to explore it.
And of course she refuses the frame (I don't even know your name..)
I say we both like each other and she denies.
She adds "why do I think she's an easy girl" and that I should go find some other girl.
All she does is putting up obstacles.
She tells me "this isn't happening" and tells me to leave... Many many times. She also say she could scream for her friend to hear -to which I play offended as I'm not a rapist and that's offensive and she backtracks-.
She doesn't really mean it for me to leave -most of the times at least, some other times it seemed a bit more serious- yet... It does nothing to bring us together either and slowly and irreparably destroys the mood.
Getting physical would seem the most logical answer but I can't properly escalate as every time I kiss her neck or get closer she moves away all the times -sometimes drastically-.
She goes outside of the room more than once, at times pretending she's about to call her friend -except telling him "it's all good" when he asks her-, and it takes time and efforts to bring her back in... And a lot of words.
Then we talk on the bed, this time she sits further away and my last ditch effort is being very explicit she can have an orgasm.
She say she doesn't want an orgasm with me. More than once.
Now a refusal of the sexual frame is a big one since this is the final offer I can make. And I'm running out of options.
Going back from here would be weak.
So this sex conversation goes on for a a couple of minutes, with her continuously refusing.
MY EXIT
Then all of a sudden I quickly get up, take my hat and quickly and coolly say it was a pleasure meeting her -without looking at her-.
She replies the same and adds something more which is interesting because I moved quick and I'm giving her my back.
I feel she's stunned by my sudden and unannounced exit and I hear some noise too, I think she got up.
But I only turned around once downstairs and she didn't follow me down -didn't expect her to come that far anyway-.
I got a raise out of her but.. At most it was good for my ego, but it didn't help us getting closer (felt a bit like Gable in Gone with the wind, I even had a similar hat lol).
I believe earlier she had added me on FB but then deleted the requested, probably angry/stung by my sudden exit and probably annoyed by our failed escalation -I say our as I felt I did 90% of what I should have done-.
Short of physically holding her back while she moved away and pushing her on the bed, which I'm thinking might have been something to try.
YOUR THOUGHTS
Guys, shout out to you, this a bit advanced as it's a relatively rare behaviour, yet I've now seen it several times and always failed to master it (if you've experienced it you know what I'm talking about).
Thoughts... ?
