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Kezarin

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Hey all,

This week in my course I started talking with a 40 year old Ukrainian woman. She’s gorgeous, very extroverted and very cheerful. She’s also got broken german so sometimes it’s hard to get innuendos etc. in.
After the first day, we sat on the bench and talked, she told me she’s lived another city in my country and has only been living here for a year or so. After that she told me she liked Sushi to which I offered to take her. She laughed and told me I know how to hook her in. We went to the train station and she extended her hand, which I then kissed. She laughed and told me I was very sweet, and then hugged me too.

the second day I touched her more and more, got her smiling, got her laughing, that day I lifted her up and carried her to the train station in my arms, which she objected to, but when I did it, it got her laughing a lot. She I got her blushing and giggling and she told me that I „move so fast!“

On the third day more of the same, we sat down together and shared some fruit (she‘s crazy for fruit). she‘s also very athletic, has done Karate, and volunteered to take care of troops in Ukraine. She lives alone with her pets on the other end of the city.
I paid for her sandwich and drink, also opened some doors, to which she said how unusual I am for just getting her things, and that many men are afraid of the role of the masculine guy who is also a gentleman.
She showed me a scar on her forearm, which I kissed (lol) which also got her very suprised, and then she told me I was going to make her faint. then she pretended to faint and I pushed the act by pretending to hold her up, then she actually did it and I held her. great fun. She told me she doesn’t really know how to act like a proper feminine woman. haha.

Yesterday we sat down in the grass together and we talked some more. she talks a lot. She told me she doesn’t want to lock me in, that I‘m young, and handsome and all that. She said she was wondering why I’m even sitting here with her. I told her that didn’t matter to me at all, and that I liked her because of her pure heart, her joyfulness, the way she smiles…all that stuff. When we hugged goodbye I kissed her on the cheek, and she didn’t mind at all.

I took her gently to come closer, and gently put her head on my shoulder. She was surprised but gave me no resistance. Some time later I did it again and also gave her a kiss on the forehead. That got her saying that I was very hot blooded and I move very fast, basically typical for a mediterranean guy, and that this was very unusual for her. I told her I like to listen to my heart, to which she said she is all in her head and tends to overthink a lot. I made sure to touch and stroke her a lot on her arms and her back.

That time on the way to the metro, while she was talking, I spontaneously took her hand and held it, which surprised her and got her laughing, telling me how I’m a guy who goes after what he wants and quickly. I said of course, isn’t that the best? after a bit more back and forth I hugged her, kissed her on both cheeks AND I told her to kiss me on the cheeks as well, which she did without hesitation. I made sure to show how pleased I was haha. She said “only two for now, if I kiss you a third time it’s gotta be marriage!” or something to that effect. I just jokingly said “Okay, let’s do it then!” she laughed some more, squeezed my hand and we parted ways.

These interactions got me thinking that she actually either doesn’t know how to act (she said before she tends to push people away), but she has been complying with every one of my requests so far, hand holding, hugging, resting her head on my shoulder, having me carry her, kisses on the cheek and so on.


Today is the day of the date, and I booked an Airbnb within 10 minutes of walking distance from the restaurant. I mentioned that I have a place now for one or two nights and that I’d have to do some shopping before we went on that date. I went to carry her again, got her laughing and telling me that she isn’t handicapped, lol. She said I was impossible, always doing crazy stuff haha.

We parted ways, and after squeezing my hand she told me this is going extremely fast for her, and I shouldn’t try anything funny or she’ll push me away, to which I just smiled and laughed. She also has to wake up at 5am tomorrow for work.

So tonight is the date. I intend to take her home and at the very least kiss her, and at best sleep with her, but I believe there will be some LMR going on. I’m not that dependent on this succeeding since the room I got is in a very good location and if all else fails I’ll try some night game and stuff. I also got some ready made pina colada which is damn good.

So guys, what do you think? Any ideas, pointers, experiences with these types of women? She doesn’t seem easy by any means, but somehow she lets me move her into these things and always has positive reactions to my advances.

Cheers!
 

Kezarin

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Date went well but then nowhere, when I invited her to my place she said she was too old for these games, even when it was raining she flat out said no, jokingly said I ruined a great night. we then walked to the metro she realized she actually had work today, called her supervisor, said she could still make it and before I could at least kiss her (I ain’t gonna kiss a girl when she’s panicking about her work) we hugged and she went on her way.

This woman is tough, and I’m sort of disappointed in myself. Let’s see what happens. I might pursue her or maybe not. It would seem very psychotic if I suddenly go radio silence the moment I don’t get sex.
I still got the room, maybe I’ll do something with it, but probably I’ll just go to fuckin sleep.
 

Kezarin

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Ok, in retrospect here is what I did wrong this last week:

-I communicated with my words and body language that she had me hooked from the start, that I was a sure thing.
-I feel like I was somewhat sexual in my touch, but not at all in my conversation and my actions, screaming ‘provider’- although to be fair, I knew from the beginning she wasn’t gonna be a quick lay.
-basically never deep dived her. I just let her talk, and boy can she talk. She talks for hours-and I’m just there listening and zoning out already!

So yeah, it was a mix of my bad fundamentals, her being super fucking serious about a partner, and me just being too nice and not sexy enough that I think ruined it for me. I fucking wined and dined her for fuck’s sake! How can I still call myself a student of Girlschase!? 🤣

Anyway, I’ve learned a lot about myself. I’m still extremely fuckin nervous. I can work on these things. Cheers!
 

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Hey all,

This week in my course I started talking with a 40 year old Ukrainian woman. She’s gorgeous, very extroverted and very cheerful. She’s also got broken german so sometimes it’s hard to get innuendos etc. in.
After the first day, we sat on the bench and talked, she told me she’s lived another city in my country and has only been living here for a year or so. After that she told me she liked Sushi to which I offered to take her. She laughed and told me I know how to hook her in. We went to the train station and she extended her hand, which I then kissed. She laughed and told me I was very sweet, and then hugged me too.

the second day I touched her more and more, got her smiling, got her laughing, that day I lifted her up and carried her to the train station in my arms, which she objected to, but when I did it, it got her laughing a lot. She I got her blushing and giggling and she told me that I „move so fast!“

On the third day more of the same, we sat down together and shared some fruit (she‘s crazy for fruit). she‘s also very athletic, has done Karate, and volunteered to take care of troops in Ukraine. She lives alone with her pets on the other end of the city.
I paid for her sandwich and drink, also opened some doors, to which she said how unusual I am for just getting her things, and that many men are afraid of the role of the masculine guy who is also a gentleman.
She showed me a scar on her forearm, which I kissed (lol) which also got her very suprised, and then she told me I was going to make her faint. then she pretended to faint and I pushed the act by pretending to hold her up, then she actually did it and I held her. great fun. She told me she doesn’t really know how to act like a proper feminine woman. haha.

Yesterday we sat down in the grass together and we talked some more. she talks a lot. She told me she doesn’t want to lock me in, that I‘m young, and handsome and all that. She said she was wondering why I’m even sitting here with her. I told her that didn’t matter to me at all, and that I liked her because of her pure heart, her joyfulness, the way she smiles…all that stuff. When we hugged goodbye I kissed her on the cheek, and she didn’t mind at all.

I took her gently to come closer, and gently put her head on my shoulder. She was surprised but gave me no resistance. Some time later I did it again and also gave her a kiss on the forehead. That got her saying that I was very hot blooded and I move very fast, basically typical for a mediterranean guy, and that this was very unusual for her. I told her I like to listen to my heart, to which she said she is all in her head and tends to overthink a lot. I made sure to touch and stroke her a lot on her arms and her back.

That time on the way to the metro, while she was talking, I spontaneously took her hand and held it, which surprised her and got her laughing, telling me how I’m a guy who goes after what he wants and quickly. I said of course, isn’t that the best? after a bit more back and forth I hugged her, kissed her on both cheeks AND I told her to kiss me on the cheeks as well, which she did without hesitation. I made sure to show how pleased I was haha. She said “only two for now, if I kiss you a third time it’s gotta be marriage!” or something to that effect. I just jokingly said “Okay, let’s do it then!” she laughed some more, squeezed my hand and we parted ways.

These interactions got me thinking that she actually either doesn’t know how to act (she said before she tends to push people away), but she has been complying with every one of my requests so far, hand holding, hugging, resting her head on my shoulder, having me carry her, kisses on the cheek and so on.


Today is the day of the date, and I booked an Airbnb within 10 minutes of walking distance from the restaurant. I mentioned that I have a place now for one or two nights and that I’d have to do some shopping before we went on that date. I went to carry her again, got her laughing and telling me that she isn’t handicapped, lol. She said I was impossible, always doing crazy stuff haha.

We parted ways, and after squeezing my hand she told me this is going extremely fast for her, and I shouldn’t try anything funny or she’ll push me away, to which I just smiled and laughed. She also has to wake up at 5am tomorrow for work.

So tonight is the date. I intend to take her home and at the very least kiss her, and at best sleep with her, but I believe there will be some LMR going on. I’m not that dependent on this succeeding since the room I got is in a very good location and if all else fails I’ll try some night game and stuff. I also got some ready made pina colada which is damn good.

So guys, what do you think? Any ideas, pointers, experiences with these types of women? She doesn’t seem easy by any means, but somehow she lets me move her into these things and always has positive reactions to my advances.

Cheers!
I believe hector has videos up on YouTube about dealing with lmr, so go check those out on the GC YouTube channel

But mainly there are two ways

You can sidestep the objection and move past it - if its not serious

Or if it is serious then you address the objection

- for this you have to be good at frame and have logical argument for why you should fuck, you can tap into her desires and desconstruct the fucked up beliefs society has about sex and present a liberated view, basically allow her to be a slut. Sometime you go on and off, talk about it, go back to kissing her cuddling, address it, and then back to a cuddling/break, eventually she'll give into her desires and will disregard fears of being a slut, but you have to make her comfortable. Listening carefully to what the actual objection is, is important. You can't counter something you don't know. A lot of it is thinking on the spot and holding the frame. Its essentially a frame battle between you and her, you want her to step into your frame.

sometime you combine evading with countering the objection, like I said with the on and off behavior

good luck - her objection is probably a mix of she thinks your too good for her because your young and she's old, and then also age objection in the sense that its socially unacceptable for her to offer pussy because of the age gap, then the third is that your moving too fast and that's not socially acceptable/ proper and makes her a slut if she says yes

so there I broke it down for you, based off reading the report, those are the objections your going to have counter

also be careful - her saying it is going extremely fast and essentially threatening to dump you is giving you a DEAD OBVIOUS SIGN, that you need to slow down. Going fast is only for useful purposes, meaning if it stops being effective, you stop it to give her more comfort to balance the seduction

You make her feel a lot of arousal - good
You have a decent connection with her - also good
She doesn't trust you because your a stranger - this one you need to work on - she doesn't trust you enough to offer that sweet pussy of hers

It's like trying to find one of the dragon balls, pussy needs to be earned and she wont fuck a stranger no matter how sexy he is

become relatable, offer to her your personality, share personal details, be someone she can trust
 
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