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jez

Space Monkey
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So the girl in question is the little sister of my friends girlfriend. We met two months ago when she joined us as we were heading out to a night club. While there we talked a bit and later headed to the dancefloor. I could sense right away that she was at least a little bit into me so I moved close to her. After some moments of dancing and tension building up we finally kissed. (Strangely she actually kind of resisted a few times but I persisted.) Shortly after was closing time and as we were leaving the dancefloor I invited her home. She said she can't and asked me to go sit with her and talk about the reasons. So we sat down and she revealed she had a boyfriend and she has been in a relationship with him for about 6 years. But for the last 6 months she had been contemplating a breakup. She also said she felt bad for doing this to me. I said I understand. When we were waiting to get our jackets we kissed passionately some more and then she asked "Should I come over?". I said sure. Outside she started talking to her sister who was with us and to make a long story short she cockblocked me and managed to turn down the idea. So in the end she didn't come back to my place. I think it was probably for the best because now she wouldn't have to worry about feeling bad or guilty later for cheating. Although some might consider even kissing cheating.

I got her phone number and texted the same night something like "I understand your decision. But maybe we can meet again some day if/when your situation is better." She replied "Yeah it would be very nice to meet you again." A few weeks later I texted her again asking if she was planning to go to this event at our town or if she was willing to go with me but she wasn't. So then I just decided to stop wasting my time and I cut contact.

And here we are today 2 months later. We (my friend and his gf) decided to head to the night club again yesterday. Early in the evening as we were hanging out at my friends place, this girl came over too, to my surprise. My friend told me she had broken up with her boyfriend a while ago. But when she arrived she didn't even say "hi" to me and just kind of ignored me. So I thought maybe she just feels embarrassed or regrets kissing me. Or even worse, auto-rejection. And then I thought if that's the case, so be it. But a few alcoholic beverages later she started to open up a bit more and we started talking again at the night club. At one point we were alone, I did some deep diving conversation and then invited her to the dancefloor. There I did the same routine again of letting some tension build and went for the kiss because she was clearly into me again. But here it got a little tricky again. I'll try to remember the conversation:

Her: "I don't know if this is a good idea."
Me: "Why? What are you thinking?"
Her: "I don't want to do this to you again. But if we are gonna do this you must not think that this will lead into anything serious. And I don't want our next encounter to feel awkward if we go ahead with this."
Me: "Who said anything about getting serious? I'm totally cool with that."
Her: "Are you sure?"
Me: "Yes. Let's go."

Then we headed back to my place which is a 5-10 minute walk from the night club. She then immediately found my movie collection and suggested we put on a movie. I said alright and she picked a horror title. I was quite puzzled and started to run some scenarios in my head as to how this will all play out. I usually just escalate very quickly when bringing a girl to my place but this was a new situation for me. I started the movie and we went to lay on the sofa. After a while I started to realize that this was her case of plausible deniability or something like that and she probably waited for me to make a move and escalate. And I'm glad I did. Then again she reminded me:

Her: "Remember that this is nothing serious and we won't tell about this to anyone."

Whatever. We had 2 rounds of pretty wild sex that night. After that as we were lying on the bed she started to wonder if it was best for her to just leave and go to her sisters place. I persuaded her to stay by telling her I will keep this a secret because that's for the best anyway. We wouldn't have to worry about other peoples opinions. That seemed to be what she wanted to hear so she stayed. The next morning (today) I escorted her halfway back to her sisters apartment (I had to go to another direction). We hugged and agreed that this would stay between us. And:

Me: "Who knows, maybe we'll do this again some day."
Her: "Yeah, you never know."
Me: "Bye."
Her: "Bye."

An hour ago I texted her: (she had about a half hour drive back home)

Me: "Got home? :)"
Her: "Yep."

So I just want to understand the situation and that's why I'm asking you, the more experienced ones. What's the deal here? All this talk about not expecting anything serious and keeping things secret. What should I make of all this? Potentially a good thing or just a red flag? What are my best options in keeping her as a casual hookup partner?

We will see each other again next weekend when my friend is hosting a housewarming party. Should I just keep my contact to a minimum? Should I try to escalate again next weekend at the party or just play it totally cool?

Thanks for your time!
 

Teparus

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You sounded more eager than she'd like, but she kept coming back for more. As someone whose sex life has been about 75% friends with benefits up to this point, I can tell you that hinting at the future before she does is bad if you want a future. Just keep taking action. Get her to come back with you time and again, and eventually she'll bring the future up. By then, most likely, you will be bored with the idea.
 

jez

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Haraklus said:
You sounded more eager than she'd like, but she kept coming back for more. As someone whose sex life has been about 75% friends with benefits up to this point, I can tell you that hinting at the future before she does is bad if you want a future. Just keep taking action. Get her to come back with you time and again, and eventually she'll bring the future up. By then, most likely, you will be bored with the idea.

Yeah I probably shouldn't have texted her at all. But I didn't want her to think that I'd lost interest by going totally silent, so I felt like I had to say something. I'm glad it all worked out eventually and wasn't in a needy mindset. (I slept with one other girl in the meantime.) The thing is that I don't see her very often so there aren't many chances, as she still lives about 30 minutes from my town and has her own social circle. It's great that she'll be coming to the party next weekend and following your advice I will take action and see if she comes home with me again. Or else I just better start forgetting about her as I once before did.
 

jez

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Alright so I went to the party. She was there and so was her underaged little brother. We said hi to each other, then I just grabbed a drink and relaxed. They had nothing to drink and when the clock hit about 9-10 PM, they left. Apparently she had to give her brother a ride home. They both live about 30 minutes away from my town. She could've come back after that but she didn't. Maybe she had some other plans and things were really out of her control or she just really isn't interested and it was all just a one night stand for her.

It's very likely that I won't be seeing her in a long time so I'm just out of options here I think. I could invite her over to my place to "watch a movie" again or something later but maybe that's not wise. Probably I should just forget about her as quickly as possible and initiate no contact at all.

Disappointing night I must admit but at the same time I shouldn't be too surprised.
 

jez

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I already left this thing behind me (have a date with another girl scheduled for Saturday) when a few days ago everything surfaced up again. I want to keep my options open and learn from my mistakes so I'm asking for advice/opinion again.

So what happened was that this friend of mine (dating this girls sister) told me that apparently she did feel awkward at the party 3 weeks ago. I just don't get it. I tried to play it cool: said hello to her and just went about my business (see post above).

I haven't been in contact with her since. When my friend told me about this I gave this thing a lot of thought and came to the conclusion that I'll shoot her a text. Because whatever happens, I have nothing to lose here.

She replied right away and here's how the short exchange went (translated):

Me: "Hey musicbreather! [a reference to her tattoo] How was your vacation? I hope you didn't have any negative feelings after we last saw at the party? You left before I blinked my eye."
Her: "It was alright, relaxing :) Well first of all I felt ashamed as hell and had a little uncomfortable feeling.."
Me: "No way! But I guess the main thing is that no one suspected anything? At least I haven't been questioned. Next time you'll be your normal self. :)"
Her: "Yeah I haven't been asked either. But yeah I'll try :)"

If my friend hadn't told me about this I wouldn't have known about this and our possible next encounter would've been awkward for her again. At least I got the chance to reassure her.

But I just don't seem to get it. Why did she feel this way? What could I have done to make her comfortable? By not going to the party? By starting a conversation at the party? From my point of view, it was great seeing her again. I'm trying to see this from her perspective. We both wanted each other that night and no one else knows we had sex so why feel ashamed? And we already talked about this that night! I said it wouldn't be weird at all!

Is there something else I should do or say? Because I will see her again some day, that's for sure. And I don't want her to feel the same way again.

Thanks for guiding me!
 

jez

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Not much contribution here but that's alright. Sometimes you need to just try stuff out yourself. This is like a field report then.

So I heard from another guy that what I could do here is try to persist one more time and get her to make a decision. I just needed to be outcome independent, like I have nothing to lose, which is actually quite true. So I texted her and invited her over to see a horror movie again pretending it would be too scary to watch it alone. Many hours passed and I started to think she wouldn't reply but she did and here's the rest of the conversation:

Her: A movie sounds good but the timing is bad considering my breakup.. It would feel maybe a bit rushed.. hope you understand..
Me: Yeah of course I understand. This wasn't meant to be anything serious as we agreed. Tell me if you change your mind :)
Her: Okay good :)

My opinion? Case closed. Feel free to comment!
 
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