[Question]Beetween repartee and rapport (according to chase book) :

[Witcher]

Hi all,
I have little questions about repartee and raport according Chase Book and how to make the best synergy out of it!!
I’m a very witty guy, naturally, not just for pick up girls,and the first method that I applied for seduction was the prizing(Swinggcat), what enable me to attract many girls in our first meetings, makig them chase and even bring down the bitchy attitude of many! The problem many girls go auto rejection, and I loose a lot of them.
After reading Chase book, and learned about auto-rejection and the necessity to go into rapport quickly, I understood my mistakes but still have another SP. So my questions are :
1)How to I step into rapport without beign seen as the pursuer. The only way I discovered is: When I tease/prize/push-pull well ,chicks start to automatically seek deep rapport with me out of the blue, this is very effective when that’s happen, but only happen when I do very strong “prizing game” wich I can’t not do all time!! The other time when “i” try to step into deep-rapport, isee girls often change their attitude and act pricely or don’t participate in the rapport well, even if the talk focus is about them.
2)Even if we have to not overdo repartee, does we have to keep it sometimes trought the interaction or not?I always have the fear to step in the dreaded friend zone if I go into full deep rapport!

Thx

 

[Just_Dave]

Hey Witcher,

Main note: Rapport is to get the girl talking about herself and invested in you! Rapport is necessary to build a deep connection with her, so that you can minimize your chances of her doing last minute resistance on you later in the sack. You always want a girl talking about herself but be sure to lead the interaction toward you two getting intimate otherwise she'll go cold and go towards auto-rejection.

1. Just have a normal conversation, and find a topic of interest and ask her about it.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-art-deep-dive

You also want to make sure you know where to take the conversation otherwise she'll become spell broken.

https://www.girlschase.com/.../spell-broken-big-mistakes-shred-conversation

2. You only get into the friendzone while not being sexual with a girl and not moving fast. You can share things about yourself, but make sure to get the girl talking again.

Question, comments, concerns?!

Just Dave

 

[Witcher]

Thnx for this precisions, esspetially about friend zone and moving fast, thisall makes sense!!

But in all, in wich way this make the girls chase???

 

[Just_Dave]

Thnx for this precisions, esspetially about friend zone and moving fast, thisall makes sense!!

But in all, in wich way this make the girls chase???

When a girls been talking all about herself the whole time she'll quickly realize that's she's become heavily invested in you because you know so much about her already and she barely knows anything about you. She'll then want to know so much about you, she's interested! You've suddenly become that mysterious and sexy stranger that she dreams about.

 

[Witcher]

Oh i see, it all make sense , its another a more sublte way of making her chase !! I say this because i was an adepte de push/pull prizing but its pretty tough and you have to keep your creativity on the line all the time, wich is nit always possible and could cause many challenging frame beetween you and her!!
But i think i will base my self on this new one, Chase one!!
But in rapport do i have to stop all repartie, teasing?? -i can say no- its nt because i'm attached with that but it's juts my personality to be teasful!!
And how to balance that rapport without beign labeled as the nice guy??(this why i use repartee).

 

[Witcher]

Another question :
In the book it is said that repartee is not necessary it is just foot in the door part of the interaction. Does this mean that if i can get rapport/deep diving witout reeparett i could skip it al along?

 

[Just_Dave]

Another question :
In the book it is said that repartee is not necessary it is just foot in the door part of the interaction. Does this mean that if i can get rapport/deep diving witout reeparett i could skip it al along?

This is true, there are many different ways to lead an interaction the whole "rapport building" is just one skill you could use. Depending how much actual comfort and attraction you've built with a particular girl you can sometimes get very close and intimate with them very soon. It's all about how you go about the actual interaction and how direct and indirect you've been the whole time with her. I walked up to girls these days and say "Hey just thought you were cute and wanted to say hi, I'm Dave." This let's the girl know I'm attracted up front and if she's not attracted or available then I move on. It's to let girls know the choice is simple, they can either sleep with me or not. I don't want them to think I'll be sticking around and wasting time.

I also use a lot of touch and long pauses to amp up attraction for dramatic effect. I tell a girl I have a big secret to tell her, but I don't tell her until we're all alone. It makes her curiosity go crazy, when I finally pull her in close to me and whisper something naughty in her ear. The thing about rapport it's all about keep the girls attention and making think you're interesting. Otherwise girls will get bored and move on . . . fast. This why I heavily stress to guys on her to work on fundamentals and figure out what works best for them. If you feel like rapport isn't necessary for a certain interaction and you feel you can escalate on the post than I highly recommend that route. Rapport is really good during transitional periods so that there is no awkward silence when you're taking her somewhere. "So tell me again how you ended up on that crazy trip." Just keep her talking so she doesn't use her logical mind to talk herself out of sleeping with you.

Questions, comments, concerns?!

Dave

 

[Witcher]

Thanks for you answer here , even if that was't what i'm after for, thies times, but i will keep them in the corner of my brain; for future use.

I was just asking if in the interaction you can juts go deep rapport and do'nt use the teasing witty remarque. But as ican read with your last answer, if yo ucan skip the whole rapport a go direct to fuck i think you can skip repartee.

I live in a country where Anti-slut defense is high and personnal danger is common.
So going with that direct opener will loose you many girls. So i have to go for the situational opener, rapport building most fo the times.
And the bad logistics that my country impose, oblige me to go deep rapport so the girls remember me well.

So...

 

[Just_Dave]

Thanks for you answer here , even if that was't what i'm after for, thies times, but i will keep them in the corner of my brain; for future use.

I was just asking if in the interaction you can juts go deep rapport and do'nt use the teasing witty remarque. But as ican read with your last answer, if yo ucan skip the whole rapport a go direct to fuck i think you can skip repartee.

I live in a country where Anti-slut defense is high and personnal danger is common.
So going with that direct opener will loose you many girls. So i have to go for the situational opener, rapport building most fo the times.
And the bad logistics that my country impose, oblige me to go deep rapport so the girls remember me well.

So...

*Coughs and recollects himself and fixes sunglasses* Yes, you can deep rapport with a girl when you find something that strikes your interest. Either an interesting necklace, she mentioned she's from your hometown, you're both dog people. It's the hook point that you're looking to form and once you do the conversation just flows. Now teasing a girl too much will lead to auto rejection, so yes you can skip over that. If a tease a girl it's more like: Be Playful not Mean/Douche

Me: I might be a bad influence on you
Her: Why's that?
Me: You seem too much like a good girl
Her: Really? I'm pretty bad!
Me: Haha, you don't have to try and impress me sweetheart

It's teasing in a way to frame the interaction as sexual and she's trying to qualify herself to my image.

Region: If that's what you gotta do go with it, you have more experience with your culture and living place than I do.

Later mate,

Just Dave

 

[Witcher]

Thank you for you ansewers.
I'm primeraly studiying the book, and the fact that in the article you get a lot of focus on deep dive. And at my beggining of my seduction study, i was very oriented on push-pull, teasing and witty when it comes to make girls chase, but this kind of attraction has a very short expiration date. So when i dioscover a "system " when you make girls chase, with "rapport" i get very curious about it, and wanted to know more about that system.

So if i understand :
-By making the foucus on the girl, you get her investement, and connection from her, so she will feel very close to you, but she don't know many thing about you, you became intriguing gyu, teh mysterious guy she feel close too, wich is a kind of rumination.
-You can use repartee and witty comments on any part iof the conversation as soon as you get the occasion to do so, bacause some times it will not be the case.
-Friend zone occure not when the girl feel close to you, but when she feel close and attracted and you don't make this happen.

That's it?

 

[Witcher]

Hey juts another question about "The chase system", as i know push-pull is one of the best ways for making girls chase, and yes it is after some experimentations. But i always use the repartee/teasing forme of it.
The "focus on the girl, and ,talk little about yourself and create intrigue" is not a another forme of push/pull??

 

[Witcher]

Hey Witcher,

Main note: Rapport is to get the girl talking about herself and invested in you! Rapport is necessary to build a deep connection with her, so that you can minimize your chances of her doing last minute resistance on you later in the sack. You always want a girl talking about herself but be sure to lead the interaction toward you two getting intimate otherwise she'll go cold and go towards auto-rejection.

1. Just have a normal conversation, and find a topic of interest and ask her about it.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-art-deep-dive

You also want to make sure you know where to take the conversation otherwise she'll become spell broken.

https://www.girlschase.com/.../spell-broken-big-mistakes-shred-conversation

2. You only get into the friendzone while not being sexual with a girl and not moving fast. You can share things about yourself, but make sure to get the girl talking again.

Question, comments, concerns?!

Just Dave

When you say not beign sexual, what do you mean exacly, not closing things? Or some shit have to be done when you talk? Like sexual state projection?
It's this part that i mostly have SP on it?

Or do i have to go fast when i have a good rapport with her, just this?

 

[Just_Dave]

Hey Witcher,

Main note: Rapport is to get the girl talking about herself and invested in you! Rapport is necessary to build a deep connection with her, so that you can minimize your chances of her doing last minute resistance on you later in the sack. You always want a girl talking about herself but be sure to lead the interaction toward you two getting intimate otherwise she'll go cold and go towards auto-rejection.

1. Just have a normal conversation, and find a topic of interest and ask her about it.

https://www.girlschase.com/content/secrets-getting-girls-art-deep-dive

You also want to make sure you know where to take the conversation otherwise she'll become spell broken.

https://www.girlschase.com/.../spell-broken-big-mistakes-shred-conversation

2. You only get into the friendzone while not being sexual with a girl and not moving fast. You can share things about yourself, but make sure to get the girl talking again.

Question, comments, concerns?!

Just Dave

When you say not beign sexual, what do you mean exacly, not closing things? Or some shit have to be done when you talk? Like sexual state projection?
It's this part that i mostly have SP on it?

Or do i have to go fast when i have a good rapport with her, just this?

This would relate to not making a move on her such as kissing or caressing her. This can also mean sexual language such as asking her out. Telling her about the types of girls you like. You're making yourself known as a sexual man.