Questions about Indirect Game

[Sub-Zero]

What up guys,

So I was reading articles about indirect game and noticed the older ones were more about going indirect first then going direct right after.

In the newer articles if I understand correctly, mention to not go direct at all and use your sexual vibe during the conversation.

My questions are:

1. Aren’t you supposed to be direct or give a compliment to let the girl know why you’re talking to her to make it known you just aren’t making small talk?

2. If you don’t do direct at all, when do you usually ask for the date during the conversation?

I’m mostly talking in a day game perspective because night game I don’t compliment at all, but were at a club, so I think she knows why I’m talking to her.

With day game I feel I have to give her a reason why I’m talking to her.

 

[Velasco]

Direct Game starts with your subcommunications saying, "I wanna fuck you" (A3). Assumes she wants to fuck you too (High A2).

Indirect Game starts with your subcommunications saying, "I wanna flirt with you cause I think you're cute" (A1). Assumes she thinks you're cute enough to wanna flirt with (Mild A2).

Visual of good Direct Game

0:15-0:19 - High A2 (to his A1)
0:20-0:21 - View of him A1-ing (positioning)
0:22-0:30 - A2 (positions herself directly in his line of view so that he notices her)
0:38-0:48 - Notices her A2 (also notices she's alone)
1:15-2:24 - Smooth A3 (wouldn't be smooth if you'd tried this move assuming High A2, when there wasn't any indication of High A2).

Visual of good Indirect Game

0:05-0:06 - A1 (assumption/cold read opener)
0:07-0:08 - Mild A2 (eyes)
0:13-0:25 - A1 (continuing the cold read + humor)
0:21-0:24 - A2 (laughs)
0:30-0:31 - A1 (DHV)
0:32-0:36 - A2 (asks questions)
0:43-0:44 - A2 (shit test)
0:45-0:46 - A1 (passes shit test)
0:47-0:50 - A2 (qualifies herself)
0:51-0:52 - A3 (soft close)
0:53-0:55 - A2 (shit test)
0:56-1:00 - A1/A3 (passes shit test)
0:57-1:01 - A2 (gives contact info)
1:02-1:04 - A1 (teases/leaves at a high point)
1:05-1:08 - High A2

 

[Sub-Zero]

Direct Game starts with your subcommunications saying, "I wanna fuck you" (A3). Assumes she wants to fuck you too (High A2).

Indirect Game starts with your subcommunications saying, "I wanna flirt with you cause I think you're cute" (A1). Assumes she thinks you're cute enough to wanna flirt with (Mild A2).

Visual of good Direct Game

0:15-0:19 - High A2 (to his A1)
0:20-0:21 - View of him A1-ing (positioning)
0:22-0:30 - A2 (positions herself directly in his line of view so that he notices her)
0:38-0:48 - Notices her A2 (also notices she's alone)
1:15-2:24 - Smooth A3 (wouldn't be smooth if you'd tried this move assuming High A2, when there wasn't any indication of High A2).

Visual of good Indirect Game

0:05-0:06 - A1 (assumption/cold read opener)
0:07-0:08 - Mild A2 (eyes)
0:13-0:25 - A1 (continuing the cold read + humor)
0:21-0:24 - A2 (laughs)
0:30-0:31 - A1 (DHV)
0:32-0:36 - A2 (asks questions)
0:43-0:44 - A2 (shit test)
0:45-0:46 - A1 (passes shit test)
0:47-0:50 - A2 (qualifies herself)
0:51-0:52 - A3 (soft close)
0:53-0:55 - A2 (shit test)
0:56-1:00 - A1/A3 (passes shit test)
0:57-1:01 - A2 (gives contact info)
1:02-1:04 - A1 (teases/leaves at a high point)
1:05-1:08 - High A2

Good stuff my man. I’m glad you added videos, that helped me understand it better.

Appreciate it, you a real one.