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With me the problem is that missing piece. I have had success with so many girls that were attractive and mixed or a part of any other minority group. I have even had success with attractive European girls but I am mostly around attractive girls that are white and american. Growing up that is all I saw on TV and saw as being attractive. It is like my mindset right now is focused towards those kinds of girls because I have never experiences success with that demographic.

My problem is that I am in an area with some poverty and a society which is fairly regressive to where people care about interracial couples to the point if a white girl is to date someone that looks foreign it will cause problems. People will give mean stares and sometimes even call couples out for it in public.

I get the feeling that some of these white girls who have rejected me would date me or be with me if we were in an area where people didn't care or where people were neutral about me being with one. The problem is that I don't know if areas like this even exist. For example I was reading about Toronto where racism is even more evident as white girls there choose to actively avoid anyone that looks foreign. Even with the OP's post on this thread, it sheds some light. I want to think that it is because of my area but I get the feeling that whether you are in Hicktown, USA or NYC, attractive white american girls by and large will hate anyone that looks foreign.

But then it goes back to my desire to try and do well with that one demographic I have always struggled with which keeps me on this forum and I swear overtime I have developed a victim's mentality towards this. If I ever marry, it would ideally be with a Sienna Miler lookalike but even if I become a good looking millionaire that is just something that I feel will never happen.
 

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K. We are not going to debate this here again man. It's up to you, do and think as you wish...
 

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ya..


OP I am sorry for invading your thread and bringing my nonsense into it.
 

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Let's remember to keep things in perspective too. I'm 6'2 and white and I'm a virgin (though I'm still only a college sophomore). Eternity is short and Hispanic and I bet he gets laid all of the time.
 

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Hit a bit of a dry spell recently... No worries, working on it ;)
 

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Seems like everyone wants to talk about how they struggle with attractive american girls that happen to be white including the OP himself who later confessed to it. There are entire blogs and much of the red pill/manosphere community has talked about this very topic. The truth being that "western women" (read American girls that are white) do have a different set of standards and are the pickiest bunch out there. I am a white male from kansas, as Henry Cavill said on Man of Steel: "I am about as American as it gets". People think I have an advantage with these girls but I struggled with them throughout college and even a little bit after it. These girls have way too many options and can get away with mostly anything if they have rich dudes (and they usually do). So many of em are out of touch with the struggles of reality that they do not understand what others go through, most of them lack empathy and could give less of a shit about your struggles because they have a luxurious life to live.

What you guys don't get is, most white guys are not getting those girls you desire or are even on their radars and they are more than happy to let you know that. No surprise that Oh Pry the Cynic is on this board when I left a post on his blonde bombshells thread about me being at the movies with my girlfriend and the young couple in front of us being an indian-looking dude while the girl he was with was a good looking white chick but ignore that shit motherfucker.

Btw, as I have said, I met my girlfriend through dance class and she fits the image you are going after.
 

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Proactivity said:
Seems like everyone wants to talk about how they struggle with attractive american girls that happen to be white including the OP himself who later confessed to it. There are entire blogs and much of the red pill/manosphere community has talked about this very topic. The truth being that "western women" (read American girls that are white) do have a different set of standards and are the pickiest bunch out there. I am a white male from kansas, as Henry Cavill said on Man of Steel: "I am about as American as it gets". People think I have an advantage with these girls but I struggled with them throughout college and even a little bit after it. These girls have way too many options and can get away with mostly anything if they have rich dudes (and they usually do). So many of em are out of touch with the struggles of reality that they do not understand what others go through, most of them lack empathy and could give less of a shit about your struggles because they have a luxurious life to live.

What you guys don't get is, most white guys are not getting those girls you desire or are even on their radars and they are more than happy to let you know that. No surprise that Oh Pry the Cynic is on this board when I left a post on his blonde bombshells thread about me being at the movies with my girlfriend and the young couple in front of us being an indian-looking dude while the girl he was with was a good looking white chick but ignore that shit motherfucker.

Btw, as I have said, I met my girlfriend through dance class and she fits the image you are going after.

This isn't true at my college. There is like a 60/40 female:male ratio and the girls are desperate--hence why so many of them try to offer up approach invitations to me.
 

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orion222 said:
Proactivity said:
Seems like everyone wants to talk about how they struggle with attractive american girls that happen to be white including the OP himself who later confessed to it. There are entire blogs and much of the red pill/manosphere community has talked about this very topic. The truth being that "western women" (read American girls that are white) do have a different set of standards and are the pickiest bunch out there. I am a white male from kansas, as Henry Cavill said on Man of Steel: "I am about as American as it gets". People think I have an advantage with these girls but I struggled with them throughout college and even a little bit after it. These girls have way too many options and can get away with mostly anything if they have rich dudes (and they usually do). So many of em are out of touch with the struggles of reality that they do not understand what others go through, most of them lack empathy and could give less of a shit about your struggles because they have a luxurious life to live.

What you guys don't get is, most white guys are not getting those girls you desire or are even on their radars and they are more than happy to let you know that. No surprise that Oh Pry the Cynic is on this board when I left a post on his blonde bombshells thread about me being at the movies with my girlfriend and the young couple in front of us being an indian-looking dude while the girl he was with was a good looking white chick but ignore that shit motherfucker.

Btw, as I have said, I met my girlfriend through dance class and she fits the image you are going after.

This isn't true at my college. There is like a 60/40 female:male ratio and the girls are desperate--hence why so many of them try to offer up approach invitations to me.

you said the girls were average to above average, not really attractive, what the fuck are you even reading from my post? I implied the average to above average girls are easy dude.

*facepalm*
 

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orion222 said:
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The girls that "approach" you are a point or two scale from the looks scale

What does this mean?

If your looks are on a scale of 1-10, and you are an "8" then 6's or 7's "approach" you regularly, according to you.
 
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Eternity said:
orion222 said:
Eternity said:
The girls that "approach" you are a point or two scale from the looks scale

What does this mean?

If your looks are on a scale of 1-10, and you are an "8" then 6's or 7's "approach" you regularly, according to you.

Wow, I cannot believe we actually agree on something.
 

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you said the girls were average to above average, not really attractive, what the fuck are you even reading from my post? I implied the average to above average girls are easy dude.

*facepalm*

Yeah, but idk. I see a lot of pretty average guys with respect to looks, intelligence, and social status that get really attractive white girls. Fraternity guys definitely run the game though, which is why I want to join one.
 

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orion222 said:
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you said the girls were average to above average, not really attractive, what the fuck are you even reading from my post? I implied the average to above average girls are easy dude.

*facepalm*

Yeah, but idk. I see a lot of pretty average guys with respect to looks, intelligence, and social status that get really attractive white girls. Fraternity guys definitely run the game though, which is why I want to join one.

they must have some sort of status or connection within their circles, I did a thread on this right here, my guess is that they are probably frat boys

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6552
 

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Proactivity said:
they must have some sort of status or connection within their circles, I did a thread on this right here, my guess is that they are probably frat boys

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6552

I just read it. This is why it is so fucking crucial that I join a fraternity. Obviously being in a fraternity has a lot of other benefits beside dating, too.
 

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orion222 said:
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they must have some sort of status or connection within their circles, I did a thread on this right here, my guess is that they are probably frat boys

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6552

I just read it. This is why it is so fucking crucial that I join a fraternity. Obviously being in a fraternity has a lot of other benefits beside dating, too.

Here is how I see it, you can join a fraternity and if you don't like it then you can leave it. If you don't join one, you will have missed out on a potentially life changing experience in college and its not like you can join one later on in college since most of the big ones take guys early on.
 

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Oh Pry said:
No, I am brown, the race these girls stereotype as unattractive. I have a huge victim's mentality concerning this and will post about it in the future, I know what's causing it and everything but as I said, white american girls that are attractive have been the only demographic I have not been able to have success with.

Hey man, seriously, you can use this to your advantage BIG TIME. I used to have a MONSTROUS insecurity about black guys; when I found out my ex slept with 3 black guys, it took me a long time to overcome it, especially since one of those guys was the only one she'd been with who had a bigger dick than me (apparently it was freakishly large). In fact, I still find some black guys intimidating, (comes from an event in my childhood; I've written about it before on the forums). Stereotypes hold strong influence over most people, especially since most people have Down's syndrome.

My point is, capitalize on stereotypes. If me, a guy who considers himself very in control over his emotional state, is sometimes intimidated by stereotypes and guys who out-Alpha me, then imagine the rest of your competition - they may not show it, but I bet if you hit on some lovely little white princess, the orbiting white faggots will rabidly fear the thought of your brown cock ripping her in half while he cowers in the corner with his shriveled up stub, crying about his estrogen levels.

I don't know if you grew up in the ghetto, but start developing some tough guy attitudes and work on your aggression. There are two styles black guys utilize that I've seen work well with women.


1. Thug/Ghetto/Gangster - works best on younger women who are absolutely enthralled with rap culture. This probably will serve you well into the early 20s for most girls, but be prepared to face lots of social policing. If a girl does sleep with you, she'll be shamed. People can tell you that we're becoming more accepting of interracial relationships, but it's still rare. I'm Hispanic and look like it, but I'm not DARK DARK (was even identified as white by a cop one time; got lucky there), so I have the best of both worlds: familiarity and an exotic edge.

2. Hybrid of thug/oreo - retain your ghetto/thug nature, BUT, exaggerate it; become a caricature. By doing this, you display social adroitness, making you more "white" (anglo-saxon = civilized; yes, many people you know think this. Welcome to the truth).


#2 will give you much more success, since it eliminates the fear of ostracization that #1 carries as a price for the primal sexuality of thugness. You will be funny and socially calibrated, but still benefit from stereotypes (big dick and aggressive).


THING IS, you need to develop your aggression and tough nature. And from the way you write, you definitely are far too weak minded and lack the arrogance that my successful black friends have. So, it's time to stop being a fucking pussy. I'm never going to sugarcoat anything.

But guess what, YOU CAN FUCKING CHANGE ALL OF THAT. It's all about changing your habits and fucking persisting, mang. If you think you can handle it, send me a PM and I'll start you out with some tips to become the nigger that your white friends are afraid to bring their girlfriends around, because you'll rip them in half with your monster cock.


EDIT: If by brown, you meant Middle-Eastern, then you can still utilize stereotypes, IF YOU WISH (or you can sweep them aside; I can explain this to you, too).

Just take the advice I give and extract its essence, not the details.


- Anatman
 

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orion222 said:
Proactivity said:
they must have some sort of status or connection within their circles, I did a thread on this right here, my guess is that they are probably frat boys

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6552

I just read it. This is why it is so fucking crucial that I join a fraternity. Obviously being in a fraternity has a lot of other benefits beside dating, too.


I have to go to work, but I'll make a post about joining a fraternity in the general forum later.

Also, you said above that frat guys get a lot of pussy. And that's true - but 9/10 of them have REALLY shitty game. They are just in the right place at the right time, girls are shitfucked, and they get laid...and are often shitty at it. Also, they win, because it's a numbers game and, well, they get exposed to lots of girls ala mixers.

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Anatman said:
I bet if you hit on some lovely little white princess, the orbiting white faggots will rabidly fear the thought of your brown cock ripping her in half while he cowers in the corner with his shriveled up stub, crying about his estrogen levels
:) God you make me laugh, sometimes, Anatman!

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If by brown, you meant Middle-Eastern, then you can still utilize stereotypes
He means Desi (origins in the Subcontinent), not Middle Eastern or anything else. I have no idea why he uses that ridiculously imprecise term. As you've ably demonstrated, Anatman, "brown" could mean anything... hell, even most so-called "white" people are actually brown unless they're very fair (e.g. Celts).

You're right, there are some shockingly sexy Middle Eastern men—Omar Sharif sent many women of European origin into mop-the-floor mode in his day. (And Middle Eastern women can be very sexy too... just think about Princess Ameerah.)

But Desi men can be incredibly attractive: a great example was Jiddu Krishnamurti. Yes, I'm sure a little imagination can help play stereotypes in your favor.

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i found this out, that no matter if a girl likes you. "Always make it a natural conversation for her, because she needs to save face".
That's a very wise observation, Zac. I will remember it!
 

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I try not to get into any race discussions but I am just going to drop this piece here from having seen it myself. What I see is that black guys have a more polarizing effect on women to where some women really like them but other women are just closed off to being with a black guy in general. Other minority groups especially asians and desis (having a few brown friends I refuse to use indan since people will think I mean native americans) have a much larger range than black guys do once they get their shit together. A lot of the girls you talk about who go for black guys due to rap culture will just as easily go for a filipino, latino, or korean guy and I have seen this happen so many times.

It is as if black guys have a niche of women they appeal to but other minority groups like asians have a broader range. Like asian guys (this includes south asians) can get the white girls who are closed off from going with a black guy but the white girls that have a preference for black guys would just as easily go for an asian guy if the opportunity presents itself because there isn't much of a social taboo against it.
 

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I try not to get into any race discussions but I am just going to drop this piece here from having seen it myself. What I see is that black guys have a more polarizing effect on women to where some women really like them but other women are just closed off to being with a black guy in general. Other minority groups especially asians and desis (having a few brown friends I refuse to use indan since people will think I mean native americans) have a much larger range than black guys do once they get their shit together. A lot of the girls you talk about who go for black guys due to rap culture will just as easily go for a filipino, latino, or korean guy and I have seen this happen so many times.

It is as if black guys have a niche of women they appeal to but other minority groups like asians have a broader range. Like asian guys (this includes south asians) can get the white girls who are closed off from going with a black guy but the white girls that have a preference for black guys would just as easily go for an asian guy if the opportunity presents itself because there isn't much of a social taboo against it.

That's an interesting perspective; can't comment because I don't have too much experience. I would have guessed that Black guys don't have it that rough because they usually don't look that bad. If you're talking South-central Asia though, well, I don't think I have ever seen one that I would call really attractive--male or female.
 
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