FR ++ Risky boldness, possibly missed threesome

[Hue]

Great night last night. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.


I was out for a run when I get a text from my buddy about a streetwear shop doing a preopening showing near where I am. I'm sweaty as fuck and very underdressed but go anyways.

Once I'm there I see a ton of people I've only heard of from the Chicago music / fashion scene - really cool place and glad they have one in my city now.

There's a huge concert tonight and basically everyone in the shop is going there and many are going backstage.

I rehash with my friend and grab margaritas with him, his older brother, and a very sexy girl he's with. The older bro, a very cool guy, knew me when I was younger and far more immature than I am now. A few times it felt like he was underhandedly talking down to me and I stood my ground or laughed it off. This, and some light flirting I was doing with his girl, annoyed him.

So we go to the concert, a very big name nowadays, and my buddies got to go backstage because they know the artist. It wasn't very inclusive obviously so they told me I could join them at the after party. Beggars can't be choosers, I had no problem with that.

At the concert I come in pretty high energy and start talking and flirting with the girl next to me. Things go really well for a while but then I miss an escalation window when I was screening for her boyfriend.

Me: So why isn't your boyfriend next to us hear glaring at me right about now?
Her: Because, he's dead
Me: Wow
Her: I killed him
Me: Other than knowing I'd be here, why'd you do it?
Her: Because he's imaginary, he had to go
Me: Is that so? Well how'd you do it?
Her: Knife, straight to the throat. Lots of ectoplasm
Me: Classic. Not what I'd expect from you though.
Her: Oh?
Me: Ya
Her: What would you expect then?
Me: *trying to think of a clever spin for her fucking him to death*
Me: Since your so about the brain (she's neuro) I'm thinking nose bone to the head, straight karate shit. You don't fuck around.
Her: Haha, well I thought about it.

Missed that, then didn't escalate to dancing once the performer came on. Invited her to the after party and was about to get her number, but then the set started again and I said I'd get it next set. She was about to let me lead her and I just didn't do anything with it, saying her friends weren't up to much at all after the show. Like a douche I just hand her my phone and she slowly changes her mind on giving it to me.

I go to a popular bar near the venue and wait for my friend's text about the party. While waiting, I see two girls eyeing me across the bar. I wait a bit, then approach.

Me: How's your night been?
Girl 1: Do you know *****?
Me: Wh. Ha, yea... wait a sec, we've met.
Girl 1: Yea remember that party back in highschool?
Me: When I saw you staring I was gonna tell you to just say hi, but shit, yea I do. Small world. What's your name again?

She introduces me to her very sexy friend, cute face, beautiful eyes, fit, smooth legs and tan skin. I don't let go of her hand and she gets super interested.

We end up talking for over and hour, and the sexy one and I are flirting pretty hard, my hands on her legs, she's telling me I'm good looking, asking me if I'm having a good time and that she is (I wonder if I could have ditched the plans and moved her right then), and it turns out we're both going to the same after party.

I basically lead and have the uglier one buy us 3 a huge margarita, which we split, then I tell them they're trying to get me drunk and feed my chase frame. The ugly one left for the bathroom, and the sexy one stayed where I was able to get more physical. When the sexy one had to go, I took her spot so when she came back they'd be surrounding me, feeding chase frame, and give me more opportunity to connect with both of them, as well as create withdrawal.

At one point they said they were gonna drunk drive back home which was 40 min away and I tell them that's nonsense they should stay at my house with a big ass couch and an open bed for my roomy. They were very down (;

We leave to the party, which my buddy hasn't texted me back and I'm technically not invited to, so I grab the sexy one's hand and say we're boyfriend and girlfriend (oldest trick in the book lol) that were helping the ugly one (who works for a journalist company or some shit, that's how they got invited). She says how long have we been dating? 10 minutes? and I say no, 10 years which feeds what a great connection we had right off the bat.

I escalate a little bit more than that as we move along, and keep up the act inside the party and the rest of the night.

The party was fucking dope. Again, I was only feet from all these people I'd only heard of, as well as the main act from a sold out show. What a lifestyle my friend's older bro lives...

I hang with my friends while we're there who were apologetic at first, then dumbfounded how I managed to get in lol.

The girls tried and failed to get backstage (the party was a rented out bar / smaller venue), and then find me when they're trying to leave. I make sure we all get waters since the girl actually does have to drive somewhat, then we leave together.

We listen to music on the drive to the apt, and I suggest we switch turns playing music at my house.

Then it hits me.

How am I gonna get this sexy chick in my bed, without the ugly one not getting offended?

I get physical with the sexy one on the couch and had created separation. All I had to do was turn her on enough by feeling her up then make up some bullshit I need to show her, and done deal.

But then, she tells her ugly friend to join us on the nice side of the couch. Fuuuuuuck.

I move myself around a few times, then they bring up smoking some reefer. I go upstairs to check if I have any, then say "hey girlfriend I need an extra pair of eyes on what we're dealing with here" from the stairwell. She happily gets up and comes over. We examine my box of goodies, and the moment we're done, I start moving in for a kiss.

Right when I do, the ugly one comes up all sneakily and ruins it. We go back downstairs, and the ugly one starts talking about sex. The thought of a threesome pops in my head. I know they both want to fuck me, are adventurous, and love to party.

We start talking fights ot something, then I ask the sexy one to come upstairs again, I'll show you his artifact from a fight (this kid who got my frat kicked off got his ass beat and I have an old relic). She goes "let's all go upstairs!" and we do. Ugly sits on the bed, Sexy on my chair. We start talking about greek life, and the vibe is dissolving.

Ugly had mentioned how she's definitely good to drive home now, and I'm no longer leading. So, I had three options.

Shoot for threesome
Make a bold, idgaf move on the sexy one
Set up a date with the sexy one

If I shoot for threesome, I either win big or lose all
If I make a move on the sexy one, it would be quite uncalibrated and could send her to autoreject.
If I set up a date, I solidify our great connection, and let her know that I'm willing to push social boundaries in a calibrated way. (this is what I started with, and ugly was uncomfortable)

The Greek talk was turning negative, and I suggest we be more positive about the subject. The sexy one says this super against the grain greek life shit that turned me on.

I go,

Me: That. Is exactly the way I saw greek life when I was still in it... do you drink coffee?
Her: Yes
Me: *skeptical smiling look* what kind?
Her: Cream and sugar haha (lol, that was kind of silly)
Me: Then we, should get coffee soon. I want to talk about that.. and some other things *sexy drawl and look*
Her: okay.

Shortly after, I feel my nose about to bleed. I guess my heart was racing or something. I make a confused look, touch my nose "what the fuck?" start walking out "I'll be right back".

It was only a little blood. 6 seconds later, they're walking towards the stairs, saying they're gonna leave now.

Me: Okay, [sexy chick], *ugly is halfway down the stairs, sexys at the top* pinky promise you guys won't get pulled over?
Her: pinky promise, and I'll do it right this time. (before I had to "teach" her how, in a more intimate way than just hands)

*she looks really turned on when we do it, and the way I taught her she's got her thumb in her mouth*

*manhandle kiss, pull off*

Her: I'll do it better next time.
Me: I'll give you one more chance, *pull her up to my level, manhandle kiss*

This time she pulls off, because her friend is now staring at us and in her line of vision.
We walk downstairs and ugly cockblock is having trouble with my weird lock, and just locked the door.
"Don't lock us in too quick" I say, ending the great time with a friendly chase frame. They laugh, we say goodbyes, and about 30 min later I text the sexy one that it was great meeting her, and get a similar reply almost immediately.

I like this girl, she's sexy, socially aware, and dresses well.
Can't wait for coffee. We do have logistics that are bad, she lives 35-40 min away from me.

I have no experience with that type of problem so I'll read up on here about it. I'll text her tomorrow to not seem too eager and set a date up (;

Hueman

 

[Mystique]

Nice read man, you did great!
Was the ugly one really that ugly? lol. Cause I think if you went for a threesome you should have been able to pull it through. Another thing could be that you were unconsciously flirting with the both of them, more obvious with the pretty one but slightly on the ugly one which made her feel that she had a chance and so she cockblocked you. If you were just friendly with the ugly one and flirty with your girl, you could have just said something like "your friend is totally safe with me. With our 10 year relationship, we'll soon be making babies. I wanna go show her something upstairs, chill and make yourself comfortable. We'll be back soon". She'll get the gist and just let you two screw. But then again, she sounds like the leader and the leader always wants the sexy guy if she finds him attractive.
As for how to go about logistics since you both stay far, there's no problem. I have a chick that stays very far from my place and yet she's willing to come stay with me for a few days. When her school just had a break, she was even willing to first come to my place all the way from another city (she schools there but lives in same city with me) before going home but she fell ill and her mom came over to pick her. To top it all, I have never met her in my life as we've only been communicating through phone and text and she's a pretty girl too. How was I able to convince her, it's simply cause she's attracted and I made it look like a normal and easy thing to come over. So all you have to do is call up your chick (it's easier to convince her over the phone), ask her about her day, tease and flirt with her and then either invite her to come see a movie, play an indoor game or cook with you (you can ask her beforehand what kinda movie, food or indoor game does she like so you'd know how to lure her) or just straight up tell her to come and chill with you and that it'll be fun and exciting, there'll be no friends disturbing the both of you (referring to ugly girl). Then you fix a day.
Good luck mate

 

[BrandonCodi]

I also wonder how ugly this girl really was.

I once considered a threesome with 2 bisexual girls. One of them was a little less attractive. She had a good body, but her face was questionable, and I heard she wasn't very good in bed. Everything worked out in the end because I ended up banging the one who I originally wanted to bang. It was a great time. The girl loved giving BJs which I had no problem with.

Good story man. I wish the ending was a little different. Sounds like you could have made things work with the sexy one for sure. They always just have that one ugly friend that can't get guys and gets jealous when their friends do. God damn it's some of the most annoying shit haha.

I think you made a good move by at least kissing her in the stairwell. I would have kissed her before that, or at least have tried. It can be so hard when there's someone there cockblocking you. When the ugly one talked about sex, I might have tried to seize an opportunity there or something. You did a good job though working with what you could.

Cheers, brother

 

[Sandman]

I'm reading Casanova's autobiograpgy. I've been reading it from time to time on kindle for a year lol it's a long read. And somewhere along the way he says something along the lines of; fathers don't want their daughters to go to a party with a guy but they have no reservations about sending their daughter with another girl friend. Which is a big mistake because a man who knows seduction can seduce two girl friends easier together than separately as one friend will encourage her friend to give you the same liberties as she has given to you (paraphrasing big time here) so she will not be labelled a slut.

Only threesomes I had with were my ex and other girls I picked up online. But... I feel like there's some grain of truth to these words even in this day and age though I've never experienced it (yet :d).

 

[Hue]

Mystique & Brandon Codi,

Was the ugly one really that ugly? lol. Cause I think if you went for a threesome you should have been able to pull it through.

I also wonder how ugly this girl really was.

I'd give her a 3, maybe 4 out of 10. Notably fat with an ~average face .

Another thing could be that you were unconsciously flirting with the both of them, more obvious with the pretty one but slightly on the ugly one which made her feel that she had a chance and so she cockblocked you.

Hindsight, yea. But I was trying to engage both to avoid cockblocking, not cultivate it lol.

If you were just friendly with the ugly one and flirty with your girl, you could have just said something like "your friend is totally safe with me. With our 10 year relationship, we'll soon be making babies. I wanna go show her something upstairs, chill and make yourself comfortable. We'll be back soon". She'll get the gist and just let you two screw. But then again, she sounds like the leader and the leader always wants the sexy guy if she finds him attractive.

Yea she was the leader and the ultimate reason me and the sexy one got into the after party. 

That line would have been killer and hella dominant. Wish I'd thought of that.

Another thing that popped in my head was telling the sexy one to sit on the bed with us in a friendly but commanding way, saying we should all lay down / cuddle, then escalate, or something of that nature.

So all you have to do is call up your chick (it's easier to convince her over the phone), ask her about her day, tease and flirt with her and then either invite her to come see a movie, play an indoor game or cook with you (you can ask her beforehand what kinda movie, food or indoor game does she like so you'd know how to lure her) or just straight up tell her to come and chill with you and that it'll be fun and exciting, there'll be no friends disturbing the both of you (referring to ugly girl). Then you fix a day.

Yea I texted her and she's​ got tons of work, with a tiny bit if ambiguity in her texts on when she's free.

I told her I was gonna call her on the weekend, and her texts were warm and shit, but then she was working a double shift when I texted her before calling. I'm pretty good at phone calls, but wasn't able to use that quality. So, I ended up trying to switch coffee to dinner at my house, and basically got shut down - now we're just getting coffee tomorrow. My plan's to meet at my house, walk to coffee, bring up something we can do at my house, then walk back and shag. If she's driving all the way out here, it shouldn't be that hard.

I think you made a good move by at least kissing her in the stairwell. I would have kissed her before that, or at least have tried. It can be so hard when there's someone there cockblocking you. When the ugly one talked about sex, I might have tried to seize an opportunity there or something. You did a good job though working with what you could.

So glad I did that, just wish I could have done more.

Looking back, I should have fucked her in the bathroom of the first bar, or maybe gotten really close to kissing her, but then pulling away with her there. I've never escalated more than a makeout in that public of a setting though. 

Looking back further, I could have screened or planted seeds of the threesome by me making conversation more sexual, maybe sexually framing them as two adventurous girls who fool around, or asking what their thoughts on experimenting / bisexuality were (;




mrre,

a man who knows seduction can seduce two girl friends easier together than separately as one friend will encourage her friend to give you the same liberties as she has given to you (paraphrasing big time here) so she will not be labelled a slut.

I feel it. Framing things as everyone being open minded and non judgemental about sex could work wonders in that context, then the preselection feeds itself. Might check out Casanova's AB later this summer, probably a good read on mindsets at the very least.

Thanks for the feedback dudes. I think if I play things smoothly I'll be able to reel her in.