FU Rough night, couldn't vibe.

[Hue]

Super bad night in comparison to Thursday.

I basically couldn't get in the zone at all, which led me to make some stupid mistakes and miss some solid opportunity. I probably put off a pretty weird vibe throughout the night, honestly.


I pregame at my friends and flirt with this chick who I didn't know was dating my friend (whoopsee) so that was fun. Kinda boring crowd though, just some drinking games and okay-conversation.

We get to the bar and it's rented out, so we have to regroup to another bar. Then, I thought shit was going to go fucking great.

Two hot chicks pre-open, and then open me. A HB7 blonde and HB8 latina. The blonde grabs me and goes "heeeey youuuuuu". I'm like "oh, well hellooo there." I feel like I know her from somewhere, but I don't, so we exchange names.

I can't feel the vibe though at all though. It again felt like one of those times where my empathy was super low, or, something like that. Basically I'm just not in-state, even though I was calm. Calm, but not collected, maybe?

Anyways I get both there names, then say some stupid shit. The latina asks me a question about my name, I answer it. Her name is Alex so I ask if it's Alexandra or Alexandriia, and if she's got some Egyptian in her. She looked like she could have been, but then I find out she's latina. She's all like "huh??' which is the one of worst responses a girl can ever give you, and I calmy go "ah, well now I'm stereotyping". and she laughs and goes "yea you are". I still go further with it, saying "well take it as a compliment, makes you exotic" <-- not so calibrated

Then I ask, "so whats the story with [blonde] and [latina]? what do you guys do?" and the latina makes a weird face, then whispers in the blonde's ear smiling awkwardly. They giggle and tell me they're in a band. I qualify them then ask how the whole thing got started. They give me a quick little answer, and I tell them that I used to be in a band, but we split up right when college started, but that you guy's got it right with the timing. I asked them what each of them play / do with some touching, one plays guitar and sings (blonde) and one does piano (latina) and damn, these girls seem pretty fucking cool.

Right then my friend jumps into our circle with high energy asking about going on the roof, and I sorta half look at him and quickly address what he said, then turn to the girls and invite them upstairs with us. They're hesitant but I persist and they come. We get to the roof and it's cold. There's also like 3 people up there max, so I turn to them asking if they're frosty. The blonde goes, "yes, we're.. frosty" so I say we'll go back downstairs. A little bit of banter on the staircase, and then we're standing next to the wall.

I ask them about what it's like performing for the band, and they tell me that they perform in lingerie. I go, lingerie.. hmm? Let's see some pictures of you guys performing. *facepalm* Pretty stupid. Sexual frame them. Chase frame them. Not, "pics or it didn't happen." Wtf dude. These chicks could have been scouting for a threesome for christ's sake.

Then the latina whispers in the blonde's ear again, and the blonde goes, "so are you gonna buy us drinks, or what?"

This makes me paranoid, thinking that that's what they've been after the entire time. I say, "hahaha, no, but maybe WE should all get drinks". The pause, doing nothing. I grab them lightly and say, c'mon let's all buy drinks. The latina gives me a look like the slightest bit of entertainment, yet serious. It indicates I've just met her newly made, yet disappointing expectation. Like "oooh, okay. hah."

We walk over to the bar, the blonde asks again if I'm getting them a drink, and I say no, the guy doesn't have to buy the girl drinks silly. I touched her on the nose and called her sweety in the mix too. Then I suggest twice that they get the first round, and all get the second. Then she goes, and I quote, "hey, so, you're not good at talking to girls. sorry to be the one to break it to you ". I go "oh, is that so? thanks for the pro tip". Aaand auto-rejection. Great job bro.

I call my friend who's left to the club, and then I use the bathroom. I see the girls sitting in the corner at a table, so when I come out I go, "hey, come with me to [bar], this place isn't doing it for me". The blonde goes, "but he was mean to me!!" and I say, "no silly, I just didn't want to buy you a drink quite yet". Then the latina starts whispering into the blonde's ear. This is like the 3rd or 4th time it's happened so I go "secret's secret's are no fun Alex!" like a 6 y/o girl and she just looks up at me silently. That describes the gyst of her vibe entirely, quiet and observant.

Me: "Let's get something better at [bar], we'll have more fun there" (hail mary)
Latina: "Go there yourself."
Me: "I'll be there, and you guys should join"
Latina: "We're staying here."

I walk away trying to keep the sexiest walk possible, but it's a total facade.

I find my buddy at a different bar. Or, I tried, but the line is fucking crazy and oddly divided the bar to an outside and inside area (not the usual). My buddy from a frat see's me and pulls me in - I got lucky and skipped like 60 people.

We get drinks, then I see Bundle. I walk up to her and she's awkward, and I get introduced to her friends, one who gives me a "oooo you're that guyyyy" kind of look. They're all freshmen, for sure. They're in the bathroom line, so I say "you ladies have fun over here, I'll keep in touch Bundle".

Then I booty call her like an hour later and I can't hear shit that she's saying. Most of it consisted of where are you? I'm a;lskdfa where are you??? a;sdkas;f and she hung up 1 second before I did.

I pop my head in to one bar and flirt with one of my coworker who's there, but then get challenged by her boyfriend and do my best to ignore it.

I walk home, get my car (it was two blocks from my house, or I would NEVER do this) and move it to my place, having responded to her "ahaha where are you??" with "about to pick you up, where are you?". No answer. I call her --> ignored call.

So, yea. Rough night.

 

[Smurf]

Damn those nights blow!

You're like the opposite of me. At the beginning of the night I have to force myself into longer interactions, but here I almost felt you were sticking in this one a bit too long. After the first few faux pax I would've hugged them and bounced and used them as social proof later. But its all good man, we all make mistakes! Sometimes you're just not feeling it.

Next time try leaving them on a semi high point and then coming back in later, maybe with more girls or more friends. Its actually surprising how people respond when the time or your Social value changes.

Keep getting those reference experiences!

Jake.

 

[Big Daddy]

Yeah bud I can relate, my night was also fucked up so that makes two of us.

I mean, it's emotionally tiring but I always go for the Hail Mary too. They can be demotivating as strike rate is like 1% or so but you gotta be happy you at least tried to make the throw. Now, about this:

I go, lingerie.. hmm? Let's see some pictures of you guys performing. *facepalm* Pretty stupid. Sexual frame them. Chase frame them. Not, "pics or it didn't happen." Wtf dude.

I've come across this situation some times and I asked for the pics and it was gold. I got the idea from a LR I read here. This girl played a character in theater and she had to do the whole thing in lingerie. I sexual framed like,

Me: hmm, so did you invite your friends?
Her: yes, but not my parents haha
Me: I mean, your mom would be pretty happy to see her daughter all sexy like that
Her: it'd would be so weird!
Me: Well, you have a point, you gotta be wearing the right color for it to be sexy. Which color was it?
Her: Black
Me: No color better than that. Do you have pictures?
Her: *shows pictures, we continue to talk about it*

So I'd say you can pull it off going that route (I ended up fucking her).

(Whenever they say something sexual like that, I always have "friend" who did it and went a step further and it's normal for me e.g. Yeah I had a friend who acted too and she got a naked role to challenge herself, and now she loves it. Even did some nude photoshoots, says she loves feeling sexy and feminine.)

 

[foggy]

Interesting. I have a feeling that these girls were a little bit intrigued by the fact you weren't on top of your game.

 

[Hue]

backstory / songbird fog,

Could you explain that hunch? I'm interested.

Big Daddy,

Yea the picture thing has worked for me during green lights but at this point that originally green was fading to yellow. I wonder if I moved them to the wall, not the roof then the wall would have made a difference in their response to that.

I did it during a time of low value and low attainability so it just worsened it.

Jake,

I tried ditching some girls then coming back and saw some mixed results. Some girls got snatched by other dudes and some where like "where'd you go??". Makes sense both ways, but wild cards are always in the mix.

 

[foggy]

backstory / songbird fog,

Could you explain that hunch? I'm interested.

I believe you were being tricked by these girls for their own fun.

Looks here like the blond is in charge and the latina is her sidekick.

Notice how the blonde grabbed you when she opened you. That's pretty aggressive. The nature of her opening body language, the words of the opener itself, and the vocal tone...this is something that a person would do if they already knew the other person. You mentioned it yourself - you felt like you knew her. BUT YOU DIDN'T. Hmm, why would she do that? Either she thought she knew you, or she was purposely doing it to see how you would react. I believe it's the latter.

Then I ask, "so whats the story with [blonde] and [latina]? what do you guys do?" and the latina makes a weird face, then whispers in the blonde's ear smiling awkwardly. They giggle and tell me they're in a band.

Weird face huh...!? Why? Either she didn't know what to say (cuz they were tricking you and their plan wasn't well thought out) or it was because it was socially uncalibrated of you to say this because they're so famous that it made you look like an idiot that you didn't know about them. Probably the former.

they tell me that they perform in lingerie. I go, lingerie.. hmm? Let's see some pictures of you guys performing.

Did they actually show you pictures? If not, this was a simple white lie to see how you would react.

Then the latina whispers in the blonde's ear again, and the blonde goes, "so are you gonna buy us drinks, or what?"

Why all the whispering!?! The latina is probably asking the blonde what they should do now. They are having some fun with you. Your fundamentals (likely) show that you are high value, but your verbal game is a little off, which makes this a fun challenge for them. They wanna see where they can take it and how far they can manipulate (hate using that word) you. They probably woulda taken off after your first few mistakes otherwise.

Outlandish theory?

 

[Hue]

songbird fog, (still want to call you backstory damnit)

she was purposely doing it to see how you would react. I believe it's the latter.

I think she may have been doing this to gauge my reaction, but not just for the fun of doing it. If I'm too excited by her doing this, that overeagerness could lower my value. If I'm too aloof, that lowers my attainability.

But, let's say it was for games beyond testing me. These two could have just wanted drinks - nothing more - and saw me as a guy who probably had cash to do that (I was looking pretty nice). So, they go up, throw a pump fake with their interest, and then hope I'll quickly buy em shit. Totally possible.

Did they actually show you pictures? If not, this was a simple white lie to see how you would react.

No they didn't. I guess that would make sense as to why it was a game/test, not a sexual window.

Why all the whispering!?! The latina is probably asking the blonde what they should do now. They are having some fun with you. Your fundamentals (likely) show that you are high value, but your verbal game is a little off, which makes this a fun challenge for them. They wanna see where they can take it and how far they can manipulate (hate using that word) you. They probably woulda taken off after your first few mistakes otherwise.

Outlandish theory?

Manipulate get's a bad rep because it's usually seen as being done maliciously - at least that how I see it. Not always the case, and often times used for mutually beneficial purposes (beyond just sex).

Right, my shit was noticeably incongruent, so they stuck around and threw tests at me to see if my personality fit the bill.

Not outlandish, my friend.


Thanks for taking the time to spell these things out, muy appreciado.