Special Girl Russian and some Eastern European women...

[Skills]

Ok guys, if you notice in most forums and if you had experience with russian women outside their country they are a total pain in the ass (does not mean you can't seduce them, again for the 100th time i had onitis on one and ended up marring her which was a total mistake, that was in my maddona whore complex days, i was young natural like kj i valued virtue after fucking a lot of women, since she was a difficult to lay and beautiful i translated this as she is the one)..... She made me wait for a month to fuck her, there was no negotiation no way around, i try every technique (of course i was banging girls while waiting).... But she did not let me, after 3 weeks i exploded with anger (bad technique) and she gave me a bj....

^ they have the worst asd, gold digging and provider hunter tendencies..... But of course i bait and switch her, and made her pay bills after she was in love.... But anyways read this bd post and the comments of other players dealing with eastern european.... Again i am helping guys and they are still having today the same issues....

imho seduction, more courtship, more bf % possibility, more bait and switch.... It is different from other women..... I am talking about Russian women/ukranian that came from there and a lot of those eastern europen (though for me polish different, no that difficult for me, but is cause the milleneals, x used to love vin diesel)

Why I Stopped Dating Russian Women - Alpha Male 2.0

-By Caleb Jones I’ve mentioned before that several years ago, I completely stopped dating Russian women. I’ve discussed the general reasons, but I don’t think I’ve ever given specifics as to why I made this decision. Today, I will demonstrate exactly why I had to...

alphamale20.com

^ read comments as well, again is similar today, has not changed based on the guys i am helping...

 

[RisingCane]

I spent a week in Prague a few weeks ago and obviously, Czech women are a different breed. What I notice is that very rarely will you get bad initial rejections from them but when it comes to closing, they are going to give you a lot more LMR. For example, it was easy for me to isolate girls from one bar to the next who were Czech but anything else, uphill battle.

As for Russian and Ukrainian women, you know as a Miami local, they are very money hungry and on the prowl for SIMPy guys. At times, I even walk away when a girl tells me she is from either of those 2 groups. Polish women tend to be a bit traditional and don't put out on a first date but I have had rather great experiences with them. It doesn't help though that so many PUAs are now doing bootcamps in Poland, that place is gonna be a Prague in no time lol.

When I went to Budapest last year, I had two dates, but Georgian but once again, the ASD was high.

Just saying, it is the opposite of Anglo women.

American women will cuss you out if they are not interested in your approach but sleep with you if they are. Russian women are the opposite.

 

[Adventurer]

Ok guys, if you notice in most forums and if you had experience with russian women outside their country they are a total pain in the ass (does not mean you can't seduce them, again for the 100th time i had onitis on one and ended up marring her which was a total mistake, that was in my maddona whore complex days, i was young natural like kj i valued virtue after fucking a lot of women, since she was a difficult to lay and beautiful i translated this as she is the one)..... She made me wait for a month to fuck her, there was no negotiation no way around, i try every technique (of course i was banging girls while waiting).... But she did not let me, after 3 weeks i exploded with anger (bad technique) and she gave me a bj....

^ they have the worst asd, gold digging and provider hunter tendencies..... But of course i bait and switch her, and made her pay bills after she was in love.... But anyways read this bd post and the comments of other players dealing with eastern european.... Again i am helping guys and they are still having today the same issues....

imho seduction, more courtship, more bf % possibility, more bait and switch.... It is different from other women..... I am talking about Russian women/ukranian that came from there and a lot of those eastern europen (though for me polish different, no that difficult for me, but is cause the milleneals, x used to love vin diesel)

Why I Stopped Dating Russian Women - Alpha Male 2.0

-By Caleb Jones I’ve mentioned before that several years ago, I completely stopped dating Russian women. I’ve discussed the general reasons, but I don’t think I’ve ever given specifics as to why I made this decision. Today, I will demonstrate exactly why I had to...

alphamale20.com

^ read comments as well, again is similar today, has not changed based on the guys i am helping...

100% same experience. I had similar stories as the blog post

 

[Skills]

I forgot to add mystery method may work... That was mystery target demo... And still is...

 

[topcat]

This doesn't match my experience. I've been with women from Russia, Ukraine, the Baltics, central europe (Hungary & Czech), Romania and Poland, and Georgia. Not had any of the problems you speak about. Some flakiness with a tiny minority of them, but that's easily managed and absolutely zero gold diggers, no ASD or bait and switch..
My only gripe is that theyre more boring than Southern Europeans. They're a bit dry & humorless, but that is all.

 

[Skills]

This doesn't match my experience. I've been with women from Russia, Ukraine, the Baltics, central europe (Hungary & Czech), Romania and Poland, and Georgia. Not had any of the problems you speak about. Some flakiness with a tiny minority of them, but that's easily managed and absolutely zero gold diggers, no ASD or bait and switch..
My only gripe is that theyre more boring than Southern Europeans. They're a bit dry & humorless, but that is all.

The bait and switch is from the seducer part, not that they bait and switch... Yes they boring and dry..

 

[Skills]

@topcat do you think the kunta factor helped you... Like since you kunta they didn't see you as bf possibility...i personally never seen a Russian with kunta... One time i went to a Russian house and the mom didn't like i was half kunta.. anyways any tips that helped you..i will have my guy pm you lol .

 

[topcat]

@topcat do you think the kunta factor helped you... Like since you kunta they didn't see you as bf possibility...i personally never seen a Russian with kunta... One time i went to a Russian house and the mom didn't like i was half kunta.. anyways any tips that helped you..i will have my guy pm you lol .

LOL Kunta! yeh might be the kunta factor, I have no idea. That kinda makes sense too. I also display near zero provider value so that probably helps. Other than that it's the same process. Move fast, close fast. I apply the same to all chicks really.

They're also some of the best at keeping things casual. Never consider me for a bf and keep it strictly to dick appointments. Never a "what are we", they dont even sleep over really.

So yeah could be the pure lover factor, exacerbated by Kunta

 

[TomInHo]

Eh hit and miss for me

For me personally it was easiest to hook up with those types of women if they had a provider already. Whether some rich guy they were dating, a guy they wanted to us for a passport or even a husband

Some of the single ones were also very pushy for relationships fast so I screened those ones out or had to do lots of reframing

Also had some fast hookups some single ones that were straightforward. But they seemed a bit more westernized on average

But I find these more as exceptions. For the most part Eastern European women on average will take longer to lay than the average western woman

LOL Kunta! yeh might be the kunta factor, I have no idea. That kinda makes sense too. I also display near zero provider value so that probably helps. Other than that it's the same process. Move fast, close fast. I apply the same to all chicks really.

They're also some of the best at keeping things casual. Never consider me for a bf and keep it strictly to dick appointments. Never a "what are we", they dont even sleep over really.

So yeah could be the pure lover factor, exacerbated by Kunta

Ye but you also skew to date heavy online, preferred apps that were more hookup focused and did weed out a lot of relationship hunters with your process.

So it's it possible you screen for EE women with more openness?

I have a feeling if you approached more EE women in person, or used apps like match, seeking arrangement you will see some of the behaviors @Skills is talking about more often

I did not experience them with every EE woman but there is a lot of truth to what he is saying

 

[topcat]

Eh hit and miss for me

For me personally it was easiest to hook up with those types of women if they had a provider already. Whether some rich guy they were dating, a guy they wanted to us for a passport or even a husband

Some of the single ones were also very pushy for relationships fast so I screened those ones out or had to do lots of reframing

Also had some fast hookups some single ones that were straightforward. But they seemed a bit more westernized on average

But I find these more as exceptions. For the most part Eastern European women on average will take longer to lay than the average western woman



Ye but you also skew to date heavy online, preferred apps that were more hookup focused and did weed out a lot of relationship hunters with your process.

So it's it possible you screen for EE women with more openness?

I have a feeling if you approached more EE women in person, or used apps like match, seeking arrangement you will see some of the behaviors @Skills is talking about more often

I did not experience them with every EE woman but there is a lot of truth to what he is saying

About to run exclusively cold approach, so will put this to the test and report back.

 

[Skills]

Eh hit and miss for me

For me personally it was easiest to hook up with those types of women if they had a provider already. Whether some rich guy they were dating, a guy they wanted to us for a passport or even a husband

Some of the single ones were also very pushy for relationships fast so I screened those ones out or had to do lots of reframing

Also had some fast hookups some single ones that were straightforward. But they seemed a bit more westernized on average

But I find these more as exceptions. For the most part Eastern European women on average will take longer to lay than the average western woman



Ye but you also skew to date heavy online, preferred apps that were more hookup focused and did weed out a lot of relationship hunters with your process.

So it's it possible you screen for EE women with more openness?

I have a feeling if you approached more EE women in person, or used apps like match, seeking arrangement you will see some of the behaviors @Skills is talking about more often

I did not experience them with every EE woman but there is a lot of truth to what he is saying

well is not really my target demo due to ptsd, to be honest any longer, and i don't like for me the lack of affection like topcat said a bit dry and flavorless..... I am more talking to guys in forums and guys i help privately.... It seems they all due the things that always work for them with other women, but with russians they get the provider hunter, bf agendal, and unusual asd....