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BarryS1

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Don’t you like those approaches that set such a good precedent, that the first date sex is easy?

I’m posting the first part from my Older Women journal.

Pt.1 Approach
Pt.2 First date


I’m trying out 3 new things:

-entertainer vibe
-baiting
-screening/qualifying

Pt.1 Approach

I went to a park full of roses and number/kiss closed a Russian milf walking with her toddler son. It was about 1pm in the afternoon and I was walking up behind them around 30ft. She turned and looked at me twice before the toddler went to the drinking fountain. Typical protective mothering behavior, I thought, better go situational on this one. She was around 5’6’’, late 20s, black hair, DD tits, and her ass jutted out of her sweatpants (I even saw her underwear line) . She was clothed simply - unusual for women in this neighborhood who go all out and wear jewels and fashionable clothing just to go grocery shopping.

Me: How’s the water taste?

Girl: OH!…um, the water? (noticeable accent)

Me: Yeah, you never know how city water tastes.

Girl: I don’t know. My son is trying to reach the fountain.

Me: (I step up to the fountain and taste the water - smacking my lips dramatically) Definitely not as smooth as San Francisco and has the rough mineral quality of X city.

Girl: Really?! You don’t like it.

Me: Not particularly. (Trying to sound fancy and go with the entertainer vibe)

Girl: Are you from around here?

Me: Yes (Baiting her to ask for more info aka only answering what she asks for)

Girl: What street?

Me: Oh, more towards X on the side of X city. And you? Where to you hail from?

Girl: Oh, is that far? Hail? I don’t understand.

Me: Where do you come from?

Girl: X (A city in Russia)

And that’s how she hooked. Within 5 minutes of talking to her, I knew I could of pulled for an insta-lay if nor for her toddler son. The easiest convo to control I’ve had in AT LEAST 3 months. Since there was a language barrier and she was in front of her kid, I didn’t use any sexual frames. Here’s the series of events:

-I made them sit down with me
-She tried screening me on my age and job, but I made her guess all of them. I found out she moved her 1 mo ago, was a lawyer in Russia, and got divorced a couple years ago - father isn’t in country.
-She broke the conversational ice by saying she likes me
-She asked me out in mid conversation to coffee next week - I said yes
-I moved them to follow me to my car and figured out logistics - she lives in an apartment with her friend that doesn’t mind guests (wicked smile).
-At my car, we decide to meet later that day b/c she will be back w/o her son.

I give her a kiss, but she stops before the second one saying, “Not in front of my son, while laughing.”

We parted ways, but she bailed on my later that day. I didn’t care b/c I was sarging at a local university - building my social circle. She called me the next day apologizing and we arranged a date on Monday.

Here’s the only good snippet of the convo in the park:

Girl: (started explaining how she hates her clothes and hasn’t had time to go shopping since coming to the U.S.)

Me: Are you trying to get me to shop with you?! Like a SERVANT?

Girl: (Mumbling incoherent things b/c her english isn’t that good and taking what she said back)

Me: I’d come along, but guys aren’t allowed in the dressing room in this country.

Girl: Guys aren’t what? (She wanted me to repeat it b/c her english isn’t good)

Me: You can’t get dressed in the changing room with me. (Squinted my eyes at her)

Girl: (Suddenly laughed) Oh, I like you Barry! (Squeezed my arm)

I was surprised how she broke the conversational tension here - I’ve always been the one to do that. I recognized this as the high point in the convo, so I moved her and the son over to a bench in the shade.

Approach Overview:

This is the third time this has happened to me. It’s not just older women, a girl in her 20s did the same thing - I just show up, do smalltalk, isolate, then get the lay! The initial approach was stellar and didn’t feel the need to put any effort in the first date. I’m really happy about the lay though, I haven’t had intercourse in 3 whole months - the longest dry spell after starting this program. She was exactly like the girl I had a fwb relationship last year - age, personality, hair color, height, voice, ext. (except she has a kid). I tried to keep the convo simple b/c her english isn’t that good - there goes my dirty talking and sexual frames :(


Pt.2 First Date

I texted her that morning for a confirmation, but didn’t get a response. This happens a lot with foreign women, they don’t check their phones regularly like Americans. I was rewarded by giving her the benefit of the doubt and seeing her walk into the coffeeshop a couple minutes after I got my tea. I didn’t feel like getting up and greeting her or giving a hug upon saying good morning. She was smoking’ - grey yoga pants w/ a Hollister jacket and low cut v-neck. Foreign girls are so cute, wearing middle school style clothing just to impress me :p We were small talking for a couple minutes, I found she only has an hour b/c she dropped her son off at swim class. I offered to go to the park again, so we jumped into my car and went to where we met. I felt so confident that, going into deep-diving would be overkill - I knew she wanted it BAD.

After parking and getting out she asked me how to delete text messages on her phone. I showed her and heard the story about her guy Russian roommate friend acting like her father. She is worried he won’t help with the paperwork yada yada if she is dating someone. She told me there’s nothing romantic involved between them, no sex and no dates - just a family friend trying to help out. She said that the guy didn’t give her feelings like I did. (WHOA SHE JUST SPILLED THE BEANS STRAIGHT UP). I was in auto-pilot qualifying her saying that’s a smart thing to do for keeping things drama-free within her homelife. YAWNNNNN

GOD I WAS SO BORED WITH HER I JUST WANTED TO @$%&. A year ago I was a virgin and enchanted by a Russian girl exactly like this one. Now, only the bubbliest and outgoing can charm me.

We go sit on a bench and she starts putting the moves on me.


Me: (Brushing her hand off my face) You are gonna have to get me alone if you want anything. People in the park can see!

Girl: (Worried demeanor) Is public affection illegal in this country? I..I didn’t know

Me: No that’s my rule. America isn’t that strict.

Girl: I’m sorry, I don’t understand. My english isn’t good. (Damn you language barrier for ruining my witty lines)

Me: Let me explain. I can’t stand things like this (poked her stomach), that (squeezed her thigh), and this (slapped her butt).

Girl: You don’t Barry!? (giggling)

Me: (Gave her the skeptical look and dragged her across the bench, putting her on my lap. We sat like that for a few seconds, with me running my fingers underneath the elastic waistband of the yoga pants. She went crazy when I did that.)

Girl: (Full on laughing) No sex in public either?

Me: Now THAT’s okay (Squeezing her ass). On the grass, concrete walkway, and bushes. It’s fine!

Girl: (Finishing my sentence and laughing) In the trees, the park benches?!

Me: Speaking of benches, I don’t think this is comfortable enough, don’t you?

Girl: (She was confused again and apologized her for bad english. $%&# you, god-damn messing up my yes ladder)

Me: Wouldn’t you like to sit on a more luxurious seat?

Girl: Ok. You like everything fancy, Barry?

Me: Only the best! Now lets go to my car, I have leather seats.

The sexual tension was so high, we were grabbing and squeezing each other’s sides on the way to my car. I’ll make the escalation story short, I go for the manhandle kiss and her lips are a dead fish. (I’ve made out w/ 3 Russian girls now and they are ALL like this, its terrible!) I get bored fast and go for the neck and put half of my body on her side of the car. She ushers a moan instantly, coupled w/ my hands running through her hair, starts wiggling. I pull down her shirt and squeeze her breasts, while simultaneously traveling my kisses along her jawline to collar bones. I don’t bother exerting any effort by talking dirty, just stuck my hands down her pants and started fingering her. She wasn’t wet at all, but after a few rubs, was well lubricated.

I stopped escalating b/c the car was parked on the sidewalk and people were jogging 3-4ft. past the car. Normally, I wouldn’t have given a $%&#, but I haven't have sex for awhile and wanted the experience to be enjoyable. I get too exited and cum early when other people are nearby. Anyone else experience this?

I drive the car to a shady spot 30 sec. away and restart the procedure. She immediately grabs my crotch like a good girl when I begin making out. I pull her yoga pants down while she’s in the passenger seat, but she stops and asks if public sex is illegal. I had the sun visor on and I whispered something Chase recommended:

I’ll make it fast, but I’ll make it good.

She complies by taking off her shoes and removing her yoga pants. I mount her and right as I’m about to put it in, she stops and asks if I have protection. I say yes and she eagerly puts the condom on me improperly. I like to shit-test girls by not putting on the condom until the very very end. If they ask, I feel relieved. If not, then I spray another layer of Lysol in my crotch area!

There’s a big air bubble in it and it’s not even half-way down my shaft, but I’m so turned on I can’t help it. As soon as I stick it in, she pushes me back and says there are people coming. Sure enough, an elderly couple walks 2ft. past my passenger window and I cum in excitement. Public sex is too exciting for me, but I use Franco’s framing saying how hot she was and made me unexpectedly cum.

I drop her off to the spot we left at, but she was stroking my hair on the way back. She asks if I can drop her and the son off back home, but I say I’m busy. She asked me for a couple more favors like calling her insurance for something b/c I have better english. I declined all of them. I need the sex practice, but she’s turning me into a provider :( I forgot to set expectations b/c I was such a horn dog.
 

Rage

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Hey Barry,

Pro stuff! congrats on getting off the dry spell; sounds like you handled this chick well and that she was really into you from the start :)

Cheers,

-Gem
 

PinotNoir

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Dude, excellent stuff with pure confidence on the opener (even though with kid), non-verbals (getting around language barrier), and reading her like a book. I hope you get her alone again because that body sounds smoking. You've got to come on those DD tits and inside that nice ass next time.

If I've had sex with a girl, I would have agreed to dropping her son off and helping her with the insurance. I'm probably too much of a "nice guy" in that regard, but I can't help it. I have a soft spot for foreigners and helping women that I've had sex with haha, unless the proposals are outlandish (i.e., require way too much time/energy that she can easily do herself).

Looking forward to the next one. Good stuff.
 

PinotNoir

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I stopped escalating b/c the car was parked on the sidewalk and people were jogging 3-4ft. past the car. Normally, I wouldn’t have given a $%&#, but I haven't have sex for awhile and wanted the experience to be enjoyable. I get too exited and cum early when other people are nearby. Anyone else experience this?

I just wanted to mention that this is perfectly normal. Basically, your primate body cums early when it senses "danger." This ensures that we ejaculate for the survival of our species.

I imagine this came about during evolution, for example.... Caveman is having sex with cavewoman. Dinosaur pops out of nowhere. Caveman ejaculates. Now they can flee, or the caveman gets eaten by dinosaur. Cavewoman escapes and has baby. This my theory at least. (Or similar scenario with rival male.)

Anyway, it's perfectly normal. You either have to build up a tolerance by building up experiences (have tons of sex [or masturbation] in "danger spot") or use mental statements ("I am safe" or "I don't care if people catch us; in fact, I hope they do because I love them to watch") to train your mind, or just go to a more secluded place without the potential of people.
 

Smith

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Hey Barry,

Congrats on the lay man! You handled the language barrier well. Even without the sexual frames and dirty talk, you still turned her on. Good job!

-Smith
 

Mr.Rob

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Dude that's pretty G rocking up to a girl with her kid and then kissing her moments later... Who the fuck does that? lol

This was one of those instances when pimping was easy and no bullshit to go through, unfortunately.

BarryS1 said:
GOD I WAS SO BORED WITH HER I JUST WANTED TO @$%&.
Lol well only one thing left to do!

I hate when you kiss and her lips are dead fish, though you apparently didn't take it as you doing anything wrong but her being retarded or something?

Then you just kept escalating, said fuck it, and put your hands down her pants?

I feel as though I might have kept things chill until she contributed more to the makeout but if you just ignored that and went for the kill I'll have to keep that in mind.

I like to shit-test girls by not putting on the condom until the very very end. If they ask, I feel relieved. If not, then I spray another layer of Lysol in my crotch area!
Hahaha your new name is Lysol dick!

Sure enough, an elderly couple walks 2ft. past my passenger window and I cum in excitement.
Those elderly couples turn me on too man ;).

In all reality I probably wouldn't have lasted any longer... I never do anyway 1st round hahaha.

I always feel bad for the girl when she leaves without me giving her good-amazing sex, how bout you?

You think you'll see her again she sounds sexy.

Fun reading, keep it pimpin, pimpin!

-Rob
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

BarryS1

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Gem said:
Hey Barry,

Pro stuff! congrats on getting off the dry spell; sounds like you handled this chick well and that she was really into you from the start :)

Cheers,

-Gem

Thanks man! Yeah, I recovered the "just had sex aurora" lol!

PinotNoir said:
Dude, excellent stuff with pure confidence on the opener (even though with kid), non-verbals (getting around language barrier), and reading her like a book. I hope you get her alone again because that body sounds smoking. You've got to come on those DD tits and inside that nice ass next time.

If I've had sex with a girl, I would have agreed to dropping her son off and helping her with the insurance. I'm probably too much of a "nice guy" in that regard, but I can't help it. I have a soft spot for foreigners and helping women that I've had sex with haha, unless the proposals are outlandish (i.e., require way too much time/energy that she can easily do herself).

Looking forward to the next one. Good stuff.

Thanks Pinot! When I've used situational openers on girls w/ kids, they either blow off the question and keep focusing the kid or start paying attention to me right away. I've gotten 1 phone number from a girl w/ a kid before, so its an area I'm exploring.

I was appalled she asked those favors right off the bat! I know foreigners who recently immigrated don't have a strong support system, but being someone's secretary is annoying. My parents used to do that to me when I was in high school. I told her where to get help, but didn't do the work for her.

PinotNoir said:
I stopped escalating b/c the car was parked on the sidewalk and people were jogging 3-4ft. past the car. Normally, I wouldn’t have given a $%&#, but I haven't have sex for awhile and wanted the experience to be enjoyable. I get too exited and cum early when other people are nearby. Anyone else experience this?

I just wanted to mention that this is perfectly normal. Basically, your primate body cums early when it senses "danger." This ensures that we ejaculate for the survival of our species.

I imagine this came about during evolution, for example.... Caveman is having sex with cavewoman. Dinosaur pops out of nowhere. Caveman ejaculates. Now they can flee, or the caveman gets eaten by dinosaur. Cavewoman escapes and has baby. This my theory at least. (Or similar scenario with rival male.)

Anyway, it's perfectly normal. You either have to build up a tolerance by building up experiences (have tons of sex [or masturbation] in "danger spot") or use mental statements ("I am safe" or "I don't care if people catch us; in fact, I hope they do because I love them to watch") to train your mind, or just go to a more secluded place without the potential of people.

P.E. has been getting worse the more I have sex outside. I lost my virginity in October last year this way and I didn't have this type of problem. I think the girls' I've been with have made me nervous about these situations. I can have first-time sex in the bedroom and not have this problem, its just outside. Plus the dryspell issue.

Smith said:
Hey Barry,

Congrats on the lay man! You handled the language barrier well. Even without the sexual frames and dirty talk, you still turned her on. Good job!

-Smith

Thanks Smith! I've had problems with foreigner girls from distant countries like Ethiopia, but Russia is close enough that they know some english!

Mr.Rob said:
Dude that's pretty G rocking up to a girl with her kid and then kissing her moments later... Who the fuck does that? lol

This was one of those instances when pimping was easy and no bullshit to go through, unfortunately.

Dude that's my new fantasy approach. Couple months ago it was pulling my car over and hitting on joggers, now its this!

I hate when you kiss and her lips are dead fish, though you apparently didn't take it as you doing anything wrong but her being retarded or something?

Then you just kept escalating, said fuck it, and put your hands down her pants?

I don't know if this is right, but I was generalizing off another girl I slept with (exactly like her). I think that was her making-out style and her man didn't have the balls to correct her. I probably wont either b/c I haven't seen everything she can do ;P Maybe she will pull off something miraculous in the bedroom!

I escalated fast b/c we were talking about sex in the park and she mentioned how there's not enough time. I felt it was different than a girl saying she had to go soon and being distant w/ me. She was saying how there wasn't much time along w/ grabbing/toying w/ me.

Mr.Rob said:
I like to shit-test girls by not putting on the condom until the very very end. If they ask, I feel relieved. If not, then I spray another layer of Lysol in my crotch area!
Hahaha your new name is Lysol dick!

Lol, yeah I was like hey girl, you like pumpkin spice or winterset olive scent! Forgot to mention the purell and ispropyl too. I don't trust no b----!

Mr.Rob said:
Sure enough, an elderly couple walks 2ft. past my passenger window and I cum in excitement.

Those elderly couples turn me on too man ;).

HAHAHA! I'm reading this at a public library and can't stop laughing! I saw some wrinkly cleavage and....I was soooo overwhelmed.

Mr.Rob said:
In all reality I probably wouldn't have lasted any longer... I never do anyway 1st round hahaha.

I always feel bad for the girl when she leaves without me giving her good-amazing sex, how bout you?

You think you'll see her again she sounds sexy.

I agree Mr. Rob. I feel bad b/c carsex isn't physically comfortable and the girl can never get fully immersed in the experience. It's not enough to get them coming back for more. I've lost a couple girls b/c there was no other option on our dates besides public sex. From the girl's POV, her time was wasted and there's a chance I'll never f--- her again.
 
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