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- Feb 20, 2016
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The night started when I found an old football and brought it over to my neighbor's house. We live in an apartment complex, so 10 minutes after tossing it around out back, a couple more guys joined. My friend wasn't looking to go out, but the two other guys wanted to shoot some pool. We went to an adult arcade with pool tables where there were no attractive girls, though it was early. I let the two guys I was with play two other guys already on the table since my goal is to learn totally the social arts.
Sparked conversation with one of the guys, and had a productive conversation. I'm starting to find that every conversation, with a guy or girl, has a bit of game attached to it. I feel bad for the few super great friends that I have, since they're my best friends and can't make the relationship stronger. So I take something I learned in a public speaking class about Bill Clinton, about how he treats everyone as if they're his best friend. That way I get to develop creating really strong connections with anybody. They mention two things - that there's a popular convention in town and tons of basic bitches come from across the East Coast to see, and that there's a good dance spot a few blocks up with a lot of girls. I only mention all this since I recently heard a slogan from a friend not to have a plan for an evening, let it unfold as it goes. Another personal note is although talking to dudes is like getting girls, don't mention that what you're about to do is going on an adventure, these dudes were just like, "..."
Turns out one of the guys I met at the apartment complex knew his way decently with girls. He mentioned a statement which resonates with me for wingman - "We got out and we build each other up." Going to remember that if I go out with a wingman ever again.
Enough about making dude friends, on to the pickup! I asked the new friend if he wanted to open up a 2 set with me. We both simultaneously opened up our respective girls. The girl I talked to almost instantly said she had a boyfriend. I didn't come in super confident, so I imagine this quick blow out was since I came across lower value. I wasn't much phased, the girl wasn't that cute, more of a warmup, but I really want to do away with the idea of a warmup. I've had many days I go long periods of time without speaking to anyone, and first girl I speak to I transition smoothly and get a solid number close. Also, my night game opening could use a little touching up. 90% of the time my night opener is either "how's it going" followed by a dropping my voice and in so serious a tone that it's obviously a joke saying "do you come here often?" Anyway, I was planning to move on, but my wing was having quite a good conversation. I didn't to dip and leave him hanging with the two girls, so my girl and I just stood there awkwardly for a couple minutes while they talked. I decided at some point that I might as well keep talking to the girl I originally approached if I was going to be there. All of a sudden she got really warm, dough eyes, and asked me how far away I lived. I know that's a window and in retrospect missed it. She already had a full drink, wasn't "drunk enough to dance yet," and the venue was quite cold and we were already in the warmest spot. No ideas came to mind where to move her. I answered her question, convo went flat, and both girls about the same time decided to remove themselves.
Next girl I approached was there for a bachelorette party. Convo was good, she liked that I called her a cougar when she wasn't that much older than me. We danced for a bit, but then I didn't have anything to say at one point, and she dismissed herself to the restroom.
Third girl was named Naomi. Of course I made the pornstar reference, which was had bad feelings about from high school. I needed to lighten her up then, but keeping conversation just ended up boring and she left to remeet up with friends.
By the fourth girl, I was getting past tipsy. I'm all for only drinking a beer an hour at a bar where most people are just talking, but I have yet to develop the ability to confidently dance at a nightclub sober, so I had about 5 beers at this point. Didn't say much on the opening, more physically escalated, but it wasn't focused. She ended up grinding on me while she talked to her friend in front of her. I disliked that situation, it was obvious her mentality was check me out also dancing with a guy. I spun her around to bring her face to face, she departed 2 minutes after that.
Fifth girl was a set I approached since my wing wanted to talk to one of the 3 girls. All of them at least 4 inches taller than me, although they had heels on. I know my opinion is a limiting belief that girls who wear high heels to become taller than myself are looking for a tall guy, but I really use it as an excuse since I don't really like banging tall girls since taking them from behind is a bit of a challenge to keep their legs spread. These girls moved on quick.
Sixth girl, my friends are ready to go and on the way out. On the way, I see a beautiful Latina sitting at the corner of the bar, and have to spark up convo. She was very sturdy in her frame, which seemed out of place for where we were since it was such a clubby atmosphere, but I liked that. One of the guys I came with butted in the convo, he's fairly uncalibrated and I'm not a fan of going out with him for such reason. The latina told him he'd have to introduce himself to her friend. He was a bit butt-hurt, and turned to me to say he and the other guy were ready to leave. Although I already felt a decent vibe with this girl, these two guys are my neighbors and I didn't want to ditch them the first night for a maybe. I asked if she wanted to go, knowing she wasn't warmed up for that, and then bounced. I should have number closed though...
We go to another bar, but by this point, my self-confidence has dropped to nothing. I would have left a long time before if I wasn't with these other guys. I haven't really been doing much game as of recently since I moved to this new town and attribute my repeated uneasiness to rustiness of not going out as regularly as I would in my old town. Though on the positive side, each interaction lasts longer than they have before so I'm getting better reference points. I see a ton of areas I need to work on.
Sparked conversation with one of the guys, and had a productive conversation. I'm starting to find that every conversation, with a guy or girl, has a bit of game attached to it. I feel bad for the few super great friends that I have, since they're my best friends and can't make the relationship stronger. So I take something I learned in a public speaking class about Bill Clinton, about how he treats everyone as if they're his best friend. That way I get to develop creating really strong connections with anybody. They mention two things - that there's a popular convention in town and tons of basic bitches come from across the East Coast to see, and that there's a good dance spot a few blocks up with a lot of girls. I only mention all this since I recently heard a slogan from a friend not to have a plan for an evening, let it unfold as it goes. Another personal note is although talking to dudes is like getting girls, don't mention that what you're about to do is going on an adventure, these dudes were just like, "..."
Turns out one of the guys I met at the apartment complex knew his way decently with girls. He mentioned a statement which resonates with me for wingman - "We got out and we build each other up." Going to remember that if I go out with a wingman ever again.
Enough about making dude friends, on to the pickup! I asked the new friend if he wanted to open up a 2 set with me. We both simultaneously opened up our respective girls. The girl I talked to almost instantly said she had a boyfriend. I didn't come in super confident, so I imagine this quick blow out was since I came across lower value. I wasn't much phased, the girl wasn't that cute, more of a warmup, but I really want to do away with the idea of a warmup. I've had many days I go long periods of time without speaking to anyone, and first girl I speak to I transition smoothly and get a solid number close. Also, my night game opening could use a little touching up. 90% of the time my night opener is either "how's it going" followed by a dropping my voice and in so serious a tone that it's obviously a joke saying "do you come here often?" Anyway, I was planning to move on, but my wing was having quite a good conversation. I didn't to dip and leave him hanging with the two girls, so my girl and I just stood there awkwardly for a couple minutes while they talked. I decided at some point that I might as well keep talking to the girl I originally approached if I was going to be there. All of a sudden she got really warm, dough eyes, and asked me how far away I lived. I know that's a window and in retrospect missed it. She already had a full drink, wasn't "drunk enough to dance yet," and the venue was quite cold and we were already in the warmest spot. No ideas came to mind where to move her. I answered her question, convo went flat, and both girls about the same time decided to remove themselves.
Next girl I approached was there for a bachelorette party. Convo was good, she liked that I called her a cougar when she wasn't that much older than me. We danced for a bit, but then I didn't have anything to say at one point, and she dismissed herself to the restroom.
Third girl was named Naomi. Of course I made the pornstar reference, which was had bad feelings about from high school. I needed to lighten her up then, but keeping conversation just ended up boring and she left to remeet up with friends.
By the fourth girl, I was getting past tipsy. I'm all for only drinking a beer an hour at a bar where most people are just talking, but I have yet to develop the ability to confidently dance at a nightclub sober, so I had about 5 beers at this point. Didn't say much on the opening, more physically escalated, but it wasn't focused. She ended up grinding on me while she talked to her friend in front of her. I disliked that situation, it was obvious her mentality was check me out also dancing with a guy. I spun her around to bring her face to face, she departed 2 minutes after that.
Fifth girl was a set I approached since my wing wanted to talk to one of the 3 girls. All of them at least 4 inches taller than me, although they had heels on. I know my opinion is a limiting belief that girls who wear high heels to become taller than myself are looking for a tall guy, but I really use it as an excuse since I don't really like banging tall girls since taking them from behind is a bit of a challenge to keep their legs spread. These girls moved on quick.
Sixth girl, my friends are ready to go and on the way out. On the way, I see a beautiful Latina sitting at the corner of the bar, and have to spark up convo. She was very sturdy in her frame, which seemed out of place for where we were since it was such a clubby atmosphere, but I liked that. One of the guys I came with butted in the convo, he's fairly uncalibrated and I'm not a fan of going out with him for such reason. The latina told him he'd have to introduce himself to her friend. He was a bit butt-hurt, and turned to me to say he and the other guy were ready to leave. Although I already felt a decent vibe with this girl, these two guys are my neighbors and I didn't want to ditch them the first night for a maybe. I asked if she wanted to go, knowing she wasn't warmed up for that, and then bounced. I should have number closed though...
We go to another bar, but by this point, my self-confidence has dropped to nothing. I would have left a long time before if I wasn't with these other guys. I haven't really been doing much game as of recently since I moved to this new town and attribute my repeated uneasiness to rustiness of not going out as regularly as I would in my old town. Though on the positive side, each interaction lasts longer than they have before so I'm getting better reference points. I see a ton of areas I need to work on.
