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john3m

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Hi, my name is John and I'm new here. In the beginning of the week, my friends and I went on a trip to Porto Seguro, here in Brazil, where we get drunk and go to parties almost everyday.
Anyway, about 4 days ago, I went to a party and hooked up with a close friend; who's in my social circle and in class with me. The thing is, I wasn't in my better judgement and I didn't move her - and because of her aroused state, she looked for someone else to keep making out with.
1 day later, I set up to talk to her, and employed some deep diving, conversationalism and some touching as well: she seemed interested, but since we were surrounded by the rest of our friends (and because I was feeling a bit of anxiety) I didn't employ hard physical escalation or a spontaneous kiss transition.
Later that day, at a party, I failed to approach her (she was dead drunk) and another guy got to her.
The day after, before going to a party, I also engaged in conversatiin with her, and when we arrived at he venue I decided to wait a little before aproaching her, for I didn't want to come across as needy or chasing. The thing is, I was sober, sick and with a fever - besides being kind of anxious - and she was drunk and surrounded by friends, and before I came to her, some other guy did. I tried to catch up to her later, but she didn't seem very receptive and her friends kept pulling her away.
Yesterday, I didn't talk to her at all (it felt like she was cold and avoiding me) and, again, I didn't want to seem needy and as the chaser. I think she may have gone into auto-rejection.
Which finally brings us to today: right now it's around one in the afternoon here and we have a party tonight. We also are heading back home tomorrow at dawn, and it's very likely I keep seeing her - at least in social situations.
How do I adress her feeling of rejection and get her warm and open towards me again? Should I be constantly around her or should I distance myself or even move on?

TL;DR: hooked up and made out with a close friend, failed to escalate properly sometimes and she's gone cold and into auto-rejection. How do I fix it? Or should I move on?
 

Adam101

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Hey John, sorry to say but it sounds like you missed your chance. If you re-read your post you can see that you had several opportunities but you either missed an escalation window or didn't move fast enough since as you say other guys hooked up with her. Unfortunately now she probably feels you cannot lead her to sex after giving you multiple shots hence why she's cold and more pursuit would probably result in orbiter / needy behavior. So I'd say lesson learned and move on. Who knows, if she sees you with other girls she might give it a second thought but I'd say ignore her and meet others. Best of luck.
 
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ray_zorse

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Yeah, you know, same thing here last week, life is so unfair sometimes, but I remember when I paid my bill in the bar digging my elbow into her side to tell her to pay her bill too so we could leave together (I took her across the road to 7/11 while both our tabs were open, and kissed her in a quiet spot), anyway she didn't pay and I thought, tough luck biyatch, you missed your takeoff slot... now I regret it of course, asked her for a date following day, no reply, last night I decided to eat in her restaurant and give her an "omiyage" from weekend trip away, this probably came off very chasey and turned her off even more, but I was (a) not really having an ulterior motive, just being friendly and curious about her restaurant, (b) operating under assumption that it might be attainability since I was hardcore flirting w another girl that night that I'd kissed in March... anyway, nogo, she was not too receptive even though overall it was an enjoyable meal.

So my point in relating this story is, try to recapture your feelings in the moment -- you did what you did for a reason, and frankly if she didn't play along it's her loss. Remember, she could have approached you at any time in all this! Okay I know that as a beginning seducer you have to get used to moving things forward, and that some things are immutable biological facts (missed windows, etc)... BUT, the important thing is how much you value yourself.

Honestly when your phone is so full of numbers you have to start saving them as "Kate gorgeous" to distinguish from "Kate train station" and "Kate angora sweater" and you're fooling around with multiple girls every time you go out... the rules change A LOT... you can be a lot more brutal, give girls a chance to be with you, and if not then just hold your frame, you may have some regrets later but that's just rewriting the past -- what you did in the moment was likely for the best.

So, keep pimping and let's see some sexy stories up ;) I don't think I have seen you on these boards before, so I'd like to extend a warm welcome, if I can do anything to help you on your journey I will try to do so -- although you seem to already have pretty good instincts as to where you can improve.

cheers

Ray
 

john3m

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My sincere thanks to Adam101 and ray_zorse - I really appreciate it! Well, according to my initial post, I went to the party last night and I approached her one last time, just to be sure, you know. And, as you may have suspected already, it didn't work out. The thing is, I ended hooking up with 2 different girls, the last of which I couldn't bed for logistical reasons. Guess this just shows how necessary it is to shake rejections and missed opportunities off and keep your focus on meeting new and interesting girls.
 
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