Sex on second date? Interesting article by Black Dragon

[Skjöldr]

Sex On The First Date Or The Second Date? - Alpha Male 2.0

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Interesting. I always push for pulling to my/her place on first date for sex (unless my logistics are shit/time constraint). My experiences so far is limited and it would be interesting to experiment with a meet-and-greet type first date of 0.5-1 hour to build comfort and then schedule the second date at your place straight off. I feel like when you meet the second time it gives off the feeling that you're already quite familiar with eachother. Not strangers meeting for the first time anymore. I like to push for sex on the first date, what do you guys think?

 

[Fuck This]

Listen SNL's are for night game where there is alcohol darkness music and dancing close to fan the flames of passion.

If you meet a girl during the day, say on your lunch hour for work, Insta date her and build comfort, there is no reason you can't get a second date lay.

It is cheap, it is low commitment and it doesn't take long.

 

[Skills]

You 2 a 3 bounce method if the lay not high % of happening do a second 3 bounce different location

 

[Skjöldr]

You 2 a 3 bounce method if the lay not high % of happening do a second 3 bounce different location

What? Lmao. You mean bouncing locations on the first date to make it seem bigger? Ye i agree.

 

[Skills]

What? Lmao. You mean bouncing locations on the first date to make it seem bigger? Ye i agree.

I tried the method suggested by bd it didn't work for me try this

The most effective way to date (The 3 bounce method) - The Skills Method

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If the lay not there either try a second time in another area of your city or if green then invite her over

 

[Witcher]

I tried the method suggested by bd it didn't work for me try this

The most effective way to date (The 3 bounce method) - The Skills Method

Before reading this Blog I highly recommend you read the post on how to set up a second encounter were I cover my take on dates (for seducers dates mean … Continue Reading →

www.theskillsmethod.com

If the lay not there either try a second time in another area of your city or if green then invite her over

On the way to implement this after lockdown. However, I have a question, in your experience, if the la is not planned for this first date, what is the best way to end the date. BD system has a clear way to end first dates, not the case with other systems.

 

[Skills]

On the way to implement this after lockdown. However, I have a question, in your experience, if the la is not planned for this first date, what is the best way to end the date. BD system has a clear way to end first dates, not the case with other systems.

I don't understand the question. I end the date and text them, I had a good time thanks for coming out or Whatever. If you do things right most of the time they text you that or they hint another meet. Ps I would listen to chase over bd,.

 

[Witcher]

I don't understand the question. I end the date and text them, I had a good time thanks for coming out or Whatever. If you do things right most of the time they text you that or they hint another meet. Ps I would listen to chase over bd,.

Chase is always my default but sometimes I'm tempted to look outside. My question was about how you finish the interaction, like kissing her, hug her and send her on her way, walk with her to her car/train station? I always had a hard time finishing interaction smooth and strong.

 

[Skills]

Chase is always my default but sometimes I'm tempted to look outside. My question was about how you finish the interaction, like kissing her, hug her and send her on her way, walk with her to her car/train station? I always had a hard time finishing interaction smooth and strong.

Look at a demo

 

[Militarybrat]

@Fluxcapacitor I do a lot of meet and greets as I date women over 40. I'm a cold approach guy so this is the way things happen for me due to time constraints on the woman's part. Meet and greets can be a beating good thing I've got a thick hide. Mature women can deep dive you in a heart beat due to experience. The issue I keep running into is getting them on a date as they associate it with romance and having to give up the pooty. I've tried to frame it as a bite to eat, to watch a sunset, lets go play and have some fun the list goes on there eyes get big then they ghost. My fundamentals are tight I dress really nice compared to men in my area as cargo shorts and tee shirt seen to be their thing. Maybe I need to dress down for attainability purposes.

Young girls well you can pull from the meet and greet that said get them on a date your chances of getting them naked go way up. It's just another means to an end and works quite well.

 

[Skills]

@Fluxcapacitor I do a lot of meet and greets as I date women over 40. I'm a cold approach guy so this is the way things happen for me due to time constraints on the woman's part. Meet and greets can be a beating good thing I've got a thick hide. Mature women can deep dive you in a heart beat due to experience. The issue I keep running into is getting them on a date as they associate it with romance and having to give up the pooty. I've tried to frame it as a bite to eat, to watch a sunset, lets go play and have some fun the list goes on there eyes get big then they ghost. My fundamentals are tight I dress really nice compared to men in my area as cargo shorts and tee shirt seen to be their thing. Maybe I need to dress down for attainability purposes.

Young girls well you can pull from the meet and greet that said get them on a date your chances of getting them naked go way up. It's just another means to an end and works quite well.

no! listen dude key words "low pressure" "quick meet and greet to see if the vibe is there" "drink or coffee" make sure is the evening after dinner... Don't talk about bite to eat or anything like that...

 

[Tank]

So living in eastern Europe many women expect one to pay for the date, so in general the 3 bounce method is just shit because if you go to three bars, and you don't get laid you've essentially set up to $30 on fire and flushed it down the toilet.

During quarantine, nothing was open so I just did dates from tinder taking them for a walk. Then either pulled or invited them over the next date. I decided to stick with this plan. Ultimately it's morally wrong to buy a woman anything before fucking her anyway.

Now what is a good second date actually, if she doesn't agree to come to my place? What else is good to do for free? There is also the perspective that perhaps if I don't pull on the first date and she doesn't want to come over on the second, then I've already lost, at least she doesn't see me as a lover...

 

[Skjöldr]

So living in eastern Europe many women expect one to pay for the date, so in general the 3 bounce method is just shit because if you go to three bars, and you don't get laid you've essentially set up to $30 on fire and flushed it down the toilet.

During quarantine, nothing was open so I just did dates from tinder taking them for a walk. Then either pulled or invited them over the next date. I decided to stick with this plan. Ultimately it's morally wrong to buy a woman anything before fucking her anyway.

Now what is a good second date actually, if she doesn't agree to come to my place? What else is good to do for free? There is also the perspective that perhaps if I don't pull on the first date and she doesn't want to come over on the second, then I've already lost, at least she doesn't see me as a lover...

Not 3 bars. Just meet at a coffee place, walk in park and bounce to your place. Boom. Once in your place you have gone to three places together.

 

[Skills]

Not 3 bars. Just meet at a coffee place, walk in park and bounce to your place. Boom. Once in your place you have gone to three places together.

That would be 2 is ok, 3 ideal, coffee place, lounge, park/beach then home. In clubs you don't have to bounce much, mainly club to home

 

[Skills]

So living in eastern Europe many women expect one to pay for the date, so in general the 3 bounce method is just shit because if you go to three bars, and you don't get laid you've essentially set up to $30 on fire and flushed it down the toilet.

During quarantine, nothing was open so I just did dates from tinder taking them for a walk. Then either pulled or invited them over the next date. I decided to stick with this plan. Ultimately it's morally wrong to buy a woman anything before fucking her anyway.

Now what is a good second date actually, if she doesn't agree to come to my place? What else is good to do for free? There is also the perspective that perhaps if I don't pull on the first date and she doesn't want to come over on the second, then I've already lost, at least she doesn't see me as a lover...

Read the article and watch the demo...About having the girl come straight to your place, is for guys with really good text game, other wise Lower odds cause it could trigger asd in some women

 

[Militarybrat]

@Skills I can use all the help I can get on this brother. I try to set a relaxed vibe just to get to know them a little on the meet and greet to see if dating is possible. They are the ones that deep dive me I get it they have families to protect. I will only let this go so far before I stop them or make an excuse to leave My favorite is I've got an outing with friends this evening I have to go.

It's the ones I get past this^^^^ with are the ones that get big eyed when I ask them out then they ghost me. The vibe is good from my prospective good chat, good eye contact, and smiles. This happens so much and is so frustrating. I keep plugging away if I knew it was me I'd change it gladly.


Brat

 

[Skills]

@Skills I can use all the help I can get on this brother. I try to set a relaxed vibe just to get to know them a little on the meet and greet to see if dating is possible. They are the ones that deep dive me I get it they have families to protect. I will only let this go so far before I stop them or make an excuse to leave My favorite is I've got an outing with friends this evening I have to go.

It's the ones I get past this^^^^ with are the ones that get big eyed when I ask them out then they ghost me. The vibe is good from my prospective good chat, good eye contact, and smiles. This happens so much and is so frustrating. I keep plugging away if I knew it was me I'd change it gladly.


Brat

Make a journal post your text and reports to see what is going on, the guys here will jump in, going for older women is harder cause they have seen it and heard it all, of course exceptions after divorce or dtf clubs, or married in trouble. But again post a journal @POB Is good at texting too.

 

[Fuck This]

I think it is more about identifying DTF women. Looking for those who are already captivated by you rather than trying to get a lukewarm woman heated up. I'm sure if you think back there were women who told you what turned them on about you. Use that to your advantage with new women.

There is not some magic age when women decide they aren't going to have one night stands any more. If you give the signals that you don't judge people she will most likely lower her walls...

Listen, I can honestly say I've never had an SNL (that didn't turn into a relationship) that came from a "date". The momentum of meeting for the first time carried us into her bed. A common saying from a deceased friend of mine is "Never say 'WHOA' in a horse race"

Lower your standards. It will make you a lot more discrete as well. Getting laid by a 6 beats getting strung along by an 8 and definitely beats getting turned down by a 9. but don't doubt yourself when a 9 puts herself in your lap.

 

[Teevster]

I would take anything this man (blackdragon) say with a huge grain of salt. I remember in 2009 he was arguing that it was impossible to bang girls on first dates.

He also calls gets laid by buying hoes (sugardating, is a form of prostitution).

He also has a history of being quite disliked in this community for being a dick and a total idiot. You will not hear me say this about anybody else in this community, but if there is one guy I would advice against, it is him.

Best,
Teevster

 

[Skjöldr]

I would take anything this man (blackdragon) say with a huge grain of salt. I remember in 2009 he was arguing that it was impossible to bang girls on first dates.

He also calls gets laid by buying hoes (sugardating, is a form of prostitution).

He also has a history of being quite disliked in this community for being a dick and a total idiot. You will not hear me say this about anybody else in this community, but if there is one guy I would advice against, it is him.

Best,
Teevster

The past 3 months, all the 4 girls i banged through cold approach i did so on the first date. He says his MO is a meet-greet type first date that takes 30-60 minutes to build comfort, and then he invites them straight over on the second date. This MO is interesting, because it is low investment (30-60 minutes) while also a bit high investment because it takes 2 dates.

My MO on the other hand is on the first date i go for 30-60 minutes and then i pull to my place and if they accept, good, and if they decline, i usually just keep it on for a little longer and then end the date and invite her straight over on the second date. To me this seems like the best of both worlds.