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Mr. oblivious

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I need help with sexual framing some examples would be useful as well

i kinda get the concept but i am struggling to implement it
 
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Drck

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Do you want to LOOK sexy or BE sexy? If you jus want to LOOK sexy do all that stuff with your hair, clothes, eyes, smiles and so on. Note that by LOOKING sexy you actually don’t have to have desire to have sex. Many guys do LOOK sexy, but once they get the opportunity to have sex they back away. That is weird. On the other hand, if you want to BE sexy you should start thinking sexy, and once you get the opportunity to have sex you take it. To BE sexy you’ll have to change your thinking, perhaps the best way is creating frames by confirmations.

Frames are basically your persistent thoughts (confirmations) that will eventually become beliefs. You repeat those thoughts over and over until they become your beliefs.

It is probably useful to have general frames as well as specific frames.

EXAMPLES OF GENERAL FRAMES:
*** “I love girls”, “I like sex” or “I love girls BECAUSE they are fun”.
These frames are too general, your brain is asking: What girls? Where do you want to have sex? What fun? Also note the BECAUSE. This will give your brain reason, logic.

Say you are shy but want to get some experience with girls. The frames are:
*** “I used to be shy to talk to girls but now I like to talk to a lot of girls”
*** “I used to be shy about sex but now I am more open to intimacy”.
Note the “I USED TO”. This refers to your current behavior but you are changing it to the past behavior, and replacing it with new behavior.

EXAMPLES OF MORE SPECIFIC FRAMES:
*** “I love touching her” (not any girls but one particular)
*** “I love talking to her about what she likes AND I like talking about sex”
*** “I really want to be intimate with her BECAUSE she is so exciting and great”
Once you talk love, like, excitement, greatness and so on, try to really FEEL it, try to get emotionally involved, e.g. get excited. Note that you are not talking about girls in general, but you are talking about one particular girl.


EVEN MORE SPECIFIC FRAMES:
*** “I love talking to her about what she likes AND it is really exciting to talk about sex”
*** “I love touching her BECAUSE she is fun and she likes the pleasure of being touched”
*** “I want to have sex with her BECAUSE it is such fun AND great pleasure, I just want to”
Note that by adding AND and BECAUSE you are giving your brain reason. Your brain likes to have reason to do something, no?

But your brain is still asking: What do you like to talk about? Where and how do you like to touch her? How do you want to have sex? So answer it by being even more specific:
*** “I love to talk to (her name) about her hobbies and her life because she is so exciting”
*** “I like to touch her gently on her hands, thighs and tits because she just loves being touched”
*** “I want to take her to my place, get her naked and let her suck my dick”
*** “I love to take her to my place and take her from behind till she has an orgasm”
Now, notice the “I like”, “I want”, “I love” and so on, they start with “I”. It is important because you are putting yourself ahead of HER. By these frames you are setting your frame as being dominant, leading and in charge – You love, you do it, you initiate, you lead, and that is important. It is not that important that she loves it or what she does because you are the one in charge. You are actually setting up a dominant frame – without even trying to be dominant. Very powerful stuff!


You can also setup frames that start with HER:
*** “She is really interested in me AND she loves pleasure and intimacy that I can give her”
*** “She is really attracted to me AND she wants me to take her to my bed”
*** “She (her name) really loves to suck my dick because it gives her such pleasure”.
*** “She really wants to be intimate with me and I have no other choice than taking her to my bed”
*** “She really wants to suck my dick and I have to take her to my place so I can allow her to do it”
Note that these statements may not be entirely true at first, but by having strong frame (by really believing in them) they might become true. You will “draw” her in your frame by thinking like that. Also note that by careful wording you are still the dominant one, you are still leading and in charge. You are also “allowing her” to have sex with you, which sets the frame that she wants you and not the other way. You are “allowing her” to seduce you without you trying to seduce her. You "allow her" to suck your dick. Another very powerful stuff!

Next, Frames should be set in PRESENT time, meaning NOW. So for example:
Instead of “I will go and talk to the girl (tomorrow, next time,…)” try “I’m going to talk to her now”.

The word NOW is actually not just a word, it is the current REALITY, everything that is happening RIGHT NOW, at this moment. It is not happening tomorrow, it is not happening yesterday – but it is happening right here and right NOW. NOW is very powerful word:
*** “She is really interested in me Right Now thus I have to talk to her and touch her”
*** “I want to talk to her and touch her Right Now, right at this moment”
*** “I’ll touch her hand Right Now because she is really attracted to me”
*** “She can’t wait till she sucks my dick AND I want to nail her in my bed Right Now”.

See, you have to train your brain to think like that, think that you are doing it at the present moment (now) even though she may not be present (e.g. you are in your room alone). But once you are with her the situation will change: now your brain will pick up on your “She wants me and I want to take her to my bed Right Now” and it will try its best to make it really happen. Now, why is that? Because that thing called brain is fucking amazing!

Also, include some truth in your statements, this way your brain have a reference. Example:
If you are shy and never slept with a girl but have frame:
*** “I am the best and biggest seducer ever”, your brain simply says: You wish, keep dreaming, what you said is just a pure lie!
On the other hand, if you are shy but you want to get intimate, here is a good frame:
*** “I used to be shy but now I am much more open to intimacy with her because she really wants to have sex with me”.

The first half is true statement (assuming that you are shy). The second half is what you want to become true. You mix the truth with some lie, and your amazing brain will process both as true. See, your brain works like a great politician - he says selective truths, mixes it with lots of lies, and then he makes others believe that he is honest. But philosophy some other time … :)
 

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Sexual frames are statements designed to turn the girls mind to sex - taking something she says and making it seem sexual --- and there are varying levels of sexual frames.

I also see three kinds of sexual frames:

1. The frames that make her look like a sexual creature.
2. The frames that make you sound sexually interested in her.
2. The frames that make her look like she wants to fuck you.

#1

Her: "Class was so drawn out and boring today."
Me: "So... you're saying you like it rough and exciting then?"

or

Her: "Godddd it's so hot out - and my outfit is making it worse."
Me: "So you'd rather walk around naked huh? Yup. I knew you were a sucia"

#2 (example by NJ)

Her: "I need to stay up all night and study."
Me: "I can help keep you up all night ;)"

#3 (my absolute favorite)

Her: "Is that a pair of brass knuckles on your belt buckle? Let me see."
Me: "Ahhh - I knew you were trying to get in my pants."

or

Her: "My damn sister... she knocked my belly button ring out.." (proceeds to lift up her shirt to put a new one in)
Me: "Just looking for an excuse to take your shirt off for me, huh?"

Most of the time, sex frames are innuendos that can be taken either way. Simple as that.

-Richard
 

Mr. oblivious

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Zphix said:
#3 (my absolute favorite)

Her: "Is that a pair of brass knuckles on your belt buckle? Let me see."
Me: "Ahhh - I knew you were trying to get in my pants."

I can see why this one is your favorite

Most of the time, sex frames are innuendos that can be taken either way. Simple as that.

Just realized iv been implementing sexual framing subconsciously on some of lays anyways ( i need to start using it more often and intentionally now)


Drck thanks for the reply i was kinda looking for what Zphix supplied but you did give me an inside to some psychological hax's to make me more sexual so thank you


Thanks to both of you for the help appreciate it all
 

Drck

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Those from Zphix are good.

My concern was that many guys want to LOOK sexy, talk sexy, present themselves as being sexy.... but then, when it comes to having actual sex, meaning when there is a huge window of opportunity, they pull back. So, basically, they are pretending to be this great sexy guy, but then they are unable to deliver. Which is rather weird, she might decide to have sex with you just based on you projecting all this sexuality - and then you chose not to do anything...

I couldn't figured this one out for long time, I always got girls so excited, and then because I was taking it slowly she got quite disappointed, perhaps even mad... I also noticed that many girls do the same, they talk sex, act sex, but then when it comes to actual act they freak out and run away. In girls it is just little bit different though, they really want to do it but they can't overcome their anxiety, they get overexcited. Thus you have to be emotionally calm, perhaps even present as "dumb" and naive, while at the same time you are always pushing for sex.

But once you make up your mind and capitalize on window of opportunity, the situation changes...
 

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Drck said:
Those from Zphix are good.

My concern was that many guys want to LOOK sexy, talk sexy, present themselves as being sexy.... but then, when it comes to having actual sex, meaning when there is a huge window of opportunity, they pull back. So, basically, they are pretending to be this great sexy guy, but then they are unable to deliver. Which is rather weird, she might decide to have sex with you just based on you projecting all this sexuality - and then you chose not to do anything...

I guess but if you weren't presented a sexual entity in the first place your chances of getting into the position of sex is significantly lower
(differs for person to person)

I couldn't figured this one out for long time, I always got girls so excited, and then because I was taking it slowly she got quite disappointed, perhaps even mad... I also noticed that many girls do the same, they talk sex, act sex, but then when it comes to actual act they freak out and run away. In girls it is just little bit different though, they really want to do it but they can't overcome their anxiety, they get overexcited. Thus you have to be emotionally calm, perhaps even present as "dumb" and naive, while at the same time you are always pushing for sex.

But once you make up your mind and capitalize on window of opportunity, the situation changes...

Not sure if im interpenetrating this right (im quite tired) but i think its important to be a dominant man along with being a sexy man. (ill probably come explain myself later too tried to think straight)
 

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Great thread!
 

Drck

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Yes. Many guys want to present as sexy and dominant. They want to LOOK that way, so they change their appearance to more "sexy", they talk "sexy", they suggest sex by clever word combinations... But then, when she gives them the opportunity to have sex they pull away...

The same with dominance - they LOOK dominant, they talk dominant but they are not. They really cannot lead her dominantly to the bed and nail her like a dominant male.

Now, that is just weird. She is not stupid, she can read you well. If you pretend to be somebody but you are not, she will discover it sooner than you think.She will see that you are pretending and she will consider it as a weakness. Why? Because strong dominant guy doesn't have to pretend that he wants sex and that he is dominant, he simply goes for the opportunity and leads her to the bed. He really WANTS sex and he will have sex once she gives him the opportunity - and she can read it from his actions. And, he doesn't have to LOOK sexy or use clever sexy words - he simply project sexuality by his actions.

Just be normal. It is much better not to look sexy and then deliver sex then look sexy and not being able to deliver. In stead of trying to LOOK sexy focus on changing your current THOUGHTS and BELIEVES to more sex oriented: "Yes I can lead her to bed" and "Yes I can nail her once she gives me the opportunity and I really wish it is happening Right Now". If you can't believe it you will have a hard time with seduction overall. By changing your believes you will automatically change your behavior and frame that you project, and you will also appear as much more sincere and genuine man...
 

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sexual frames if used right brings a girl into your world and way of thinking. you want to be conveying that sex is no big deal, its natural, fun, and that the world would be a better place if everybody just had a massive orgy. its showing her that you are comfortable with sex, that its no big deal and that most people are unnecessarily uptight about it for no reason, so that she can feel comfortable adopting this same mindset.
 
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