Sexual Gambit - The 5 different erotic types

[Toby2030]

A sexual gambit I just have started using in field. This is the bare-minimum version of it. Depending on the conversation more descriptive language and tech can be added.

"Sex without connection is not great. It’s hard to know what each other are into and what each other’s boundaries are, and that makes it really hard to have good sex. Did you know that there’s 5 different erotic types?

The first one is the energetic. They mostly get turned on by anticipation. You give her a little, you take it away and you build up this anticipation of wanting more and more.
The second one is the sensual type. They get turned on by getting all of her senses ignited. It’s the senses of smell, taste, look and touch that need to be activated.

The third one is the sexual type. They get turned on by everything you define as sexual really. Intercourse, orgasm, penetration, dicks, nudity, and just in general forwardness.

The fourth one is the kinky type, which are turned on by tabu, but the thing about this one is that it’s the tabu for you. It could be public sex, anal sex or maybe BDSM. So what there is a tabu for you becomes the turn on. In can either be psychological or sensation based.

At last we have the shapeshifter. The shapeshifter is someone who is turned on by all of it. There’s a lot of opportunities and nothing is ever too much.

The thing is, if we don't feel connected with each other, we would never know how to please each other.
But by connecting and understanding what turns us on, we can adapt to the person to turn them on properly. With me, this is necessary if I want to have sex with a new girl."

There's a lot of great opportunities for transitions into other gambits during this gambit. One example I used recently was @Teevster s orgasm control gambit which is easy to transition into from the energetic type. (https://www.girlschase.com/content/talk-about-orgasm-control-and-turn-her)

 

[Niwoor222]

Not Bad but i think it lacks more sexual and intense juicy talk and a lot of girls will not be turned on with such topic. They mostly will say with a poker face "yeah, cool" except a virgin who will get turned on by saying just "sex is beautiful" hahah
Yeah I mean. I get better results with being more intense and saying things like: "I get a vibe from you that you like to be spanked in the ass" it arouses her more, shows more sexual prizing and sets a stronger sexual frame in just a simple sentence. I think this type of sexualization is better, the effect with this short sexual sentence is only reached with a very sexual gambit like the "8 type of orgasm gambit" or "orgasm control" of Teevster, but even the short sentence is superior because the gambits of teevster are difficult to pull off out of the blue.


GG,
Niwoor

 

[Toby2030]

@Niwoor222 Those types of cold reads have their place but it's a matter of style. As I said in the top of the post, more descriptive language is advised to be added in this gambit but a skeleton version is easier to work with and calibrate towards the girl IME - riffing style (which this is). Your cold read doesn't really show that much sexual prizing but rather just sets a sexual frame - your style is much more direct whereas this style is for people who like to be much more indirect, and play around with verbal influence. If you are not well trained in conversational management I agree that it can be hard to pull off but it's just a matter of training.

 

[Niwoor222]

Those types of cold reads have their place but it's a matter of style

thanks for sharing it, it just that the main goals of sexualizing are setting a strong sexual frame, arouse her sexually and sexual prizing and I get those 3 with just a short sentence. I find those type of gambits talking too much and not getting to the point, hell! A fuck8ng man is not too indirect.

Your cold read doesn't really show that much sexual prizing but rather just sets a sexual frame

From my perspective that short sentence shows a lot of sexual prizing Here is why:
- Most women do not have wild sex with men because most men "want" princess girls...(this is teevster's shit, no need to say more, hehe), therefore most men will not spank girls enough and much less in a dominance way during a wild sex session.
- Plus the way I say it give her clues about the type of sexual value I am selling her. Subcomunication is so important in sexual prizing that I can convey more sexual prizing than a chode explaining her the whole kamasutra.

It doesnt have to be a cold read, it can be a question as simple as "do you like to be spanked?" and it also convey the 3 goals. Again it is all in the sub (confidence) since you can explain the whole kamasutra and the 572 sexual positions with no confidence and girls will not believe your sexual prizing because girls mainly focus on confidence and wheather you believe your shit or not




GG,
Niwoor.

 

[Toby2030]

We have different styles. If you don't like verbal influence game, then don't use it. No one is forcing you lol
When I started out I also had a more direct style similar to yours. I more often faced resistance, and sexual tension was a hit or miss. Then I learned indirect game where I adjust my level of escalation to her level of compliance - basically creating compliance before I escalate, which was a much more efficient. I was now able to make girls even more immersed and stealing girls from chodes with direct game was a lot easier.

Again it is all in the sub (confidence) since you can explain the whole kamasutra and the 572 sexual positions with no confidence and girls will not believe your sexual prizing because girls mainly focus on confidence and wheather you believe your shit or not

You clearly have a flawed view on influence based game, and don't quite understand it, which I didn't either when I was new. If you are interested in learning it and expanding your knowledge you should check gun's course on the 3 keys out https://witch60.com/ and afterwards you should check out rikers stuff.

 

[topcat]

You clearly have a flawed view on influence based game, and don't quite understand it, which I didn't either when I was new. If you are interested in learning it and expanding your knowledge you should check gun's course on the 3 keys out https://witch60.com/ and afterwards you should check out rikers stuff.

it’s funny.. not 6 months ago i thought that influence stuff was goofy as all hell, then something clicked and boy..

Nice gambit DML. I’ll definitely be employing it.

btw who is riker and what’s he about?

 

[Niwoor222]

If you don't like verbal influence game, then don't use it. No one is forcing you lol

Bro, it is not that I dont like verbal influence game, it just that I dont like to talk too much to acomplish the same goal when there are more efficient ways to get the same effect, maybe both styles are effective but I acomplish the same by talking way much less.

I am not purely direct as you say. I mix and calibrate based on the responds I get but I calibrate after the fact (not before) which means I will throw a sexual hoop like the one above and based on her respond I will go more direct next time or more indirect but I never start going too indirect to "test the water" (for me it feels hesitating, fear to sexualize or at least fear to get to the point fast, so the girl will think that you need to be talking in circle to finally get to my point and tell her how much you like spankble ass). So you will have to go direct anyways at some point. Why not to save time and go straight to more direct? My point is that most girls are compliant to those type of sexual cold reads. They like them but of course in case they don't I have no choice than change toward more indirect and use your type of gambit, in those cases your gambit could be useful but mostly not because most girls compliant to more sexual hoops therefore I find no necessary to talk too much.

By the way, this is not insulting your post or your gambit. I shouldn't comment this on your thread because these are my opinions about the best way to sexualize in general.

GG,
Niwoor

 

[Toby2030]

btw who is riker and what’s he about?

Dave Riker - Speed Seduction Language & Conversation Course

www.daveriker.com

I calibrate after the fact (not before)

this is the definition of direct game - you escalate before you create compliance.

there are more efficient ways to get the same effect

I don't agree with this statement, and we will not really agree since we are from two different schools. Before this ends up in the indirect vs direct game I think we should just close it here. Alek has a whole series on the matter https://www.girlschase.com/content/problem-direct-game-pt-1-does-direct-game-work https://www.girlschase.com/content/problem-direct-game-pt-2-killing-all-intrigue https://www.girlschase.com/content/indirect-game-pt-1-interesting-her-indirectly https://www.girlschase.com/content/indirect-game-pt-2-making-her-comply-you https://www.girlschase.com/content/indirect-game-pt-3-escalating-vibe

 

[Niwoor222]

we will not really agree since we are from two different schools. Before this ends up in the indirect vs direct game

Indirect vs direct approach is something different. We are debating about indirect vs direct in terms of sexualizing which is a post-hook phase. Here applies other rules since the girl is already attracted.

But anyways, putting aside the pros and cons of sexualizing in a very indirect way and doing it more direct, I just feel myself a Very High level Confident guy doing it in a very straightforward way and I can feel girls get my feelings.


GG,
Niwoor

 

[José enrique]

I agree with you DML..

This guy called (Niwoor) just uses sex hoops and qualification as a bait to see if the girl bites and move to a sexual vibe or escalate the vibe and establish a sexual frame....

Clearly that's not the right thing to use on all girls only with the ones that seem more outgoing and open minded and better if they have invested a little (you have some initial compliance or attraction).....

With most it is best to calibrate with something not so sexually explicit at first... for example a naughty male to female type joke... to test the waters and establish a sexual framework early without running the risk of her rejecting your sexualization or resisting due to lack of investment and attraction/interest (low compliance)....

An example would be: role play: You look like my future ex-girlfriend.

I will hire you as my personal assistant in a sexy tight suit... blah blah....

Chase frames: Don't look at me in that seductive way like you're undressing me....

Nice jeans...you just dressed like that to hurt my mind ....

And other more forms of flirting/teasing. To test the waters and then move on to another level of sexualization and upping the tone little by little to the more explicit and direct... like sex rings... sexual qualification... indirect sexual talk.. or direct style mode one... Pnl Patterns of arousal...

This is my model of Sexualization I start with something not so explicit or direct to go gauging how the girl responds and how much compliance gives me to go to the more explicit or direct or stimulating and persuasive .. I created it based on all verbal sexualization techniques that I learned from many puas and other seducers and my experiences ...

So... I can say that the best thing to sexualize and impose a strong sexual frame, the girl is mentally aroused and sees you as a sexual prize.. is to have her open up sexually and tell you her likes, interests, and fantasies that she wants to experience in sex and know that you may be able to fulfill all of that by relating to her and generating that deep level of sexual connection...

The other powerful ways are using Pnl...like describing to her what you would do to her in sex explicitly in a hypothetical scenario almost like mode one style...for example if you were in a hotel room...or what you dreamed you would do to her...or if you were alone what you would think of doing to her...etc.

Or use arousal and desire patterns (which I hardly use this one) because with the previous sex talk and the rapport and sexual connection I have generated she is already stimulated and aroused enough...it's just physically escalating and becoming more physical and getting her to grab your penis...done.


In conclusion... go from the more implicit and indirect to the more explicit and direct... depending on the compliance you get.

And from easy to complex... depending on your level of play and influence and how much you want to stimulate her or think she needs to feel more stimulated and aroused...


Greetings... from South America... Lover's Mentality...