Calls & Texts Sexualizing texts to raise buying temperature - how?

[topcat]

Hey guys, happy new year.

I'm curious about the idea of sexualizing text messages to raise a girls buying temperature, get her to chase me (and sexually escalate on me over text) and inevitably soft close me.

Using the winning text structure championed by @Skills, I imagine an adapted texting structure like this:

1. low effort ping - to gauge and stimulate her baseline investment
2. light sexualized banter - to set an early sexual frame, gauge her sexual buying temperature and set sexual precedent
3. reward her sexual investment - to encourage more of the behaviour
4. fractionate out while her buying temperature is warm but not fully crested to stimulate chasing and get her to EVENTUALLY soft close me.. (& send nudes ) OR soft close her
5. if i choose not to soft close, i repeat this process over an intermittent period until she soft closes me and comes straight over to mine or invites me to hers

What I'd like to know is how does one actually sexualize their texts?

I can do it if a girl introduces innuendo to the conversation herself, or on the odd day when inspiration strikes, but I want a reliable repeatable process to inject.

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Why am i doing this?

i'm bored of the typical meet for a date raise her buying temperature, pull and escalate to sex at home.
not to sound cocky, but i've mastered that process, done it countless times and it's no longer exciting to me.
It's gotten so bad i was having a legitimate existential crisis early to mid 2023, as i suddenly lost interest in seducing chicks (don't believe me, ask @DoWhatWorks, poor guy had to put up with my lamentations over many a phone call). I went so far as to get my testosterone tested..

A woman's visible sexual desire for me excites me, especially when she attempts to use her body and sexuality to seduce me. The containment and inner composure scenarios like that call for in order to close things out properly (and the subsequent increase in attraction that causes in a girl) make a seduction worthwhile and stimulating to me.
Fuck an orgasm, that is what i do it for. I'd like more of it..and if I can't get it I'll honestly just hang up my boots and find thrills elsewhere.

I hope, that at least for now, getting girls to close me and rabidly chase me for sex will keep the boredom away for a while before that too loses its lustre. And sexualized texting (if it proves to work as i hope it will) will be a key proponent in achieving this goal.

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Tips, techniques, anecdotes - if you've got 'em lets hear 'em!

I plan to collect a high volume of numbers via online & daygame in January, and burn them all down to the ground experiementing until I find a winning process (I spent 3 months in 2022 doing this with @Skills famous text guide until it clicked).

Once I've got it locked I'll spin up a guide and share it on the forum.

Thanks guys.

TC

 

[Jan]

Very interesting topic! I was thinking about doing something similarly since I also have dozens of matches to burn, LOL

Few things which come to my mind which can be useful:

1) when you are texting her, think like you are actually on a date BUT without physical touch. Therefore, satisfy her social and emotional needs, and once these are met, just see if the sexual annuendos/pings start coming from her side. If not, start doing this on your own but IN A LIGHT WAY.
2) if she's given you a phone number, CALL HER and see if you are able to RUN THE DATE process over the phone. For some chicks voice can be enough of a sexual stimulant for her, and also can create a mystery aura.
3) run LIGHT 2nd gen gambits over text, I've done it. If you have enough emotional and social cussion, she wait accept the light sex talk. Things like comfort/trust as a foundation, explanation of madonna-whore complex, slut-shaming of women.
4) sexualize your profile so you screen for chicks open to mostly sexual situations. This is coming from Playing on Fire. I have only watched few of his videos but from the examples he shows, it seems to me that he has a pretty polarizing profile. If you didn't have a polarizing profile when you matched your current leads, most likely they will bail if you go too strong sexually on them.
5) finally, it seems to me that the main motivation for this project is that the normal thing became TOO EASY. I might be wrong but, was the normal thing mostly from online? If you are looking for more stimulation, maybe it's better to focus on getting 1st day lays from day/bar game instead of doing this. On the other hand, I don't want to discourage you, because I would be really happy to see someone who figured it out, so I keep fingers crossed

Good luck!

 

[topcat]

Some great ideas here Jan!

1) when you are texting her, think like you are actually on a date BUT without physical touch. Therefore, satisfy her social and emotional needs, and once these are met, just see if the sexual annuendos/pings start coming from her side. If not, start doing this on your own but IN A LIGHT WAY.
2) if she's given you a phone number, CALL HER and see if you are able to RUN THE DATE process over the phone. For some chicks voice can be enough of a sexual stimulant for her, and also can create a mystery aura.
3) run LIGHT 2nd gen gambits over text, I've done it. If you have enough emotional and social cussion, she wait accept the light sex talk. Things like comfort/trust as a foundation, explanation of madonna-whore complex, slut-shaming of women.

i like these a lot, and wouldn’t be too hard to get running with right away.

I am curious about your own text structure now though..what do you do to build comfort and trust via text initially and how are you transitioning that into second gen? feel free to text snippets as well or dm if you’re more comfortable doing that, i’ll probably compile this all into a text guide once i’ve tested it.

5) finally, it seems to me that the main motivation for this project is that the normal thing became TOO EASY. I might be wrong but, was the normal thing mostly from online? If you are looking for more stimulation, maybe it's better to focus on getting 1st day lays from day/bar game instead of doing this. On the other hand, I don't want to discourage you, because I would be really happy to see someone who figured it out, so I keep fingers crossed

It’s a bit of this yes.

I’m traditionally a majority online guy, but what really sunk me was when i started venturing out into daygame, seduced a sexy hired gun at a coffee shop, ran my date to lay process on her only for it to feel as lacklustre (or even more disappointing tbh) than some of my online pulls.

Ultimately it’s the low intensity predictable sexualization that i find boring.
Maybe i’ve fried my brain from porn, or too much sex, but i’m genuinely a guy who likes high risk, high exertion, high stimulation activities, sexually and otherwise.
Standard seduction, at least in the way i’ve been doing it, has felt too “vanilla”. The ones that still excite me are the seductions where i pulled in public, a girls escalated on me in a taboo place (airplane) or the times i was invited straight over to a girls house or a chick came straight to mine. And cuckolding. I’m looking for ALOT more of these kinds of experiences. And wondering if sexualized texting can help me get there

Same day public lays though, absolutely

 

[Jan]

When I mentioned trust/comfort I referred to Tevs' gambit.

Making a Girl Trust & Feel Comfortable with You (Seduction Gambit)

Before a girl will go to bed with you, you need to help her trust and feel comfortable enough with you to do so. How do you that? Use this gambit to begin… Hey guys. Today, I’ll go through a gambit I love using in field lately. It is safe and low risk plus its effects are mind-blowing. It’s a...

www.girlschase.com

But to answer your question on how I build trust and comfort online. It's mostly by being VERY NORMAL, socially adjusted and emotionally alive person. Initially I try to AVOID any sex related texts. For the emotional part I use a lot of emoticons, things like 'haha' 'lol', etc.

I always try to SLOW MYSELF down when it comes to sexualization because I tradionally rushed it many times. So I calibrated.

I believer that being normal is building comfort and trust because most guys online are texting WEIRD AS FUCK (including myself in the past).

Talking about normal, daily stuff, not trying to impress her, instead showing vulnerabilities, is also good for trust.

As to how I transition to 2nd gen verbals, here is an example:

ME: have a quick question
STILL ME: if it's personal, feel totally free to tell me
STILL ME: assuming that you are talking to someone really cool, someone you have a real good flow and feeling comfortable with
STILL ME: do you enjoy talking about sex?
STILL ME: or is it more of an area of life, where we you start talking you ruin everything, and instead you better focus on doing

HER: I have no problems with it.

ME: cool, apart from trust and comfort, open communication is probably the third most important foundation of good sex

That's it. HOWEVER, for this to work consistently you really have to set the social and emotional components FIRST. You will test this, so you will know best, but my bet is that the sex talk over text will land deaf or end up in no replies if you don't do the social and emotional thing.

Think about this. In real life, she can deduce a lot about your social and emotional self from observing your clothes, body language, social interactions, etc. While in online setting, if you go to sex talk straight away, the most likely assumption on her side: some fat fucking pervert using someone's photos and me for sexual stimulation. Going forward from this: phone calls or EVEN BETTER VIDEO CALLS can help you big time.

It's very interesting to read your background, experiences and "high risk, high exertion, high stimulation activities, sexually and otherwise."

It matches my experience and preferences almost 100%, LOL. I've also done Tinder-straight-to-apartment lays. Both on my and her side. Recently, I had a silent date at my place. I talked to this chick on Tinder first, texts later, stopped texting me for some time, and then some Saturday pings me, I tell her that I'm not in the mood to talk, she said she feels the same, but maybe I just want to hang out without much talking. I invite her over for A SILENT DATE. Basically a date where we were not supposed to talk at all. I order her uber, go downstairs to pick her up, we exchange just few words on the way up, and while we are inside, zero words, I cut the distance slowly not to scare her, when I feel when the tension raises, I escalate more, and I'm fucking her in about 10-15 minutes.

So far my limit was when I tried to convice a girl from Tinder (one I haven't seen in real life yet) to leave her apartment doors unlocked, and wait for me on her knees and we would start the date with me putting my cock into her mouth, LOL She didn't agree but I still fucked her in a more plain vanilla way.

I also fucked chicks in a forest, beach, near river, blowjob in a shopping centre, car, etc. So I totally understand your need for high risk stimulation. Cutting porn is probably a good idea too, LOL Doing it right now.

I’m looking for ALOT more of these kinds of experiences. And wondering if sexualized texting can help me get there

I think sexualixed texting can you help you get there. Is this the best path thought? I'm not sure. I can imagine that spending A LOT OF TIME OUT (anywhere really) would be a better idea. You would develop your social skills in different situations more, and whatever you are planning to do, you can discuss this with her wherever you meet her.

 

[topcat]

When I mentioned trust/comfort I referred to Tevs' gambit.

Making a Girl Trust & Feel Comfortable with You (Seduction Gambit)

Before a girl will go to bed with you, you need to help her trust and feel comfortable enough with you to do so. How do you that? Use this gambit to begin… Hey guys. Today, I’ll go through a gambit I love using in field lately. It is safe and low risk plus its effects are mind-blowing. It’s a...

www.girlschase.com

But to answer your question on how I build trust and comfort online. It's mostly by being VERY NORMAL, socially adjusted and emotionally alive person. Initially I try to AVOID any sex related texts. For the emotional part I use a lot of emoticons, things like 'haha' 'lol', etc.

I always try to SLOW MYSELF down when it comes to sexualization because I tradionally rushed it many times. So I calibrated.

I believer that being normal is building comfort and trust because most guys online are texting WEIRD AS FUCK (including myself in the past).

Talking about normal, daily stuff, not trying to impress her, instead showing vulnerabilities, is also good for trust.

As to how I transition to 2nd gen verbals, here is an example:

ME: have a quick question
STILL ME: if it's personal, feel totally free to tell me
STILL ME: assuming that you are talking to someone really cool, someone you have a real good flow and feeling comfortable with
STILL ME: do you enjoy talking about sex?
STILL ME: or is it more of an area of life, where we you start talking you ruin everything, and instead you better focus on doing

HER: I have no problems with it.

ME: cool, apart from trust and comfort, open communication is probably the third most important foundation of good sex

That's it. HOWEVER, for this to work consistently you really have to set the social and emotional components FIRST. You will test this, so you will know best, but my bet is that the sex talk over text will land deaf or end up in no replies if you don't do the social and emotional thing.

Think about this. In real life, she can deduce a lot about your social and emotional self from observing your clothes, body language, social interactions, etc. While in online setting, if you go to sex talk straight away, the most likely assumption on her side: some fat fucking pervert using someone's photos and me for sexual stimulation. Going forward from this: phone calls or EVEN BETTER VIDEO CALLS can help you big time.

It's very interesting to read your background, experiences and "high risk, high exertion, high stimulation activities, sexually and otherwise."

It matches my experience and preferences almost 100%, LOL. I've also done Tinder-straight-to-apartment lays. Both on my and her side. Recently, I had a silent date at my place. I talked to this chick on Tinder first, texts later, stopped texting me for some time, and then some Saturday pings me, I tell her that I'm not in the mood to talk, she said she feels the same, but maybe I just want to hang out without much talking. I invite her over for A SILENT DATE. Basically a date where we were not supposed to talk at all. I order her uber, go downstairs to pick her up, we exchange just few words on the way up, and while we are inside, zero words, I cut the distance slowly not to scare her, when I feel when the tension raises, I escalate more, and I'm fucking her in about 10-15 minutes.

So far my limit was when I tried to convice a girl from Tinder (one I haven't seen in real life yet) to leave her apartment doors unlocked, and wait for me on her knees and we would start the date with me putting my cock into her mouth, LOL She didn't agree but I still fucked her in a more plain vanilla way.

I also fucked chicks in a forest, beach, near river, blowjob in a shopping centre, car, etc. So I totally understand your need for high risk stimulation. Cutting porn is probably a good idea too, LOL Doing it right now.


I think sexualixed texting can you help you get there. Is this the best path thought? I'm not sure. I can imagine that spending A LOT OF TIME OUT (anywhere really) would be a better idea. You would develop your social skills in different situations more, and whatever you are planning to do, you can discuss this with her wherever you meet her.

right so just for clarification i’m referring to sexualized texts of numbers you e either hot from online or in person, not actually texting on the Apps. iVe got that part down and really all that process is good for is farming leads.

I’m talking about texting warm leads to get them randy and soft closing me. Girls i’ve met online or in person. Apologies if i that was t clear in OP.

I think sexualixed texting can you help you get there. Is this the best path thought? I'm not sure. I can imagine that spending A LOT OF TIME OUT (anywhere really) would be a better idea. You would develop your social skills in different situations more, and whatever you are planning to do, you can discuss this with her wherever you meet her.

Agreed, and that’s something i plan to do anyway to farm more leads, but what i’m looking for here is to turn the phone numbers i do collect, the girls i can’t close immediately into highly sexualized encounters off the get go. The regular date-to-lay process i’d typically apply to such girls bores me.

 

[Jan]

what i’m looking for here is to turn the phone numbers i do collect, the girls i can’t close immediately into highly sexualized encounters off the get go.

Looking forward to hear about your findings

 

[Skills]

Hey guys, happy new year.

I'm curious about the idea of sexualizing text messages to raise a girls buying temperature, get her to chase me (and sexually escalate on me over text) and inevitably soft close me.

Using the winning text structure championed by @Skills, I imagine an adapted texting structure like this:

1. low effort ping - to gauge and stimulate her baseline investment
2. light sexualized banter - to set an early sexual frame, gauge her sexual buying temperature and set sexual precedent
3. reward her sexual investment - to encourage more of the behaviour
4. fractionate out while her buying temperature is warm but not fully crested to stimulate chasing and get her to EVENTUALLY soft close me.. (& send nudes ) OR soft close her
5. if i choose not to soft close, i repeat this process over an intermittent period until she soft closes me and comes straight over to mine or invites me to hers

What I'd like to know is how does one actually sexualize their texts?

I can do it if a girl introduces innuendo to the conversation herself, or on the odd day when inspiration strikes, but I want a reliable repeatable process to inject.

----------------------------

Why am i doing this?

i'm bored of the typical meet for a date raise her buying temperature, pull and escalate to sex at home.
not to sound cocky, but i've mastered that process, done it countless times and it's no longer exciting to me.
It's gotten so bad i was having a legitimate existential crisis early to mid 2023, as i suddenly lost interest in seducing chicks (don't believe me, ask @DoWhatWorks, poor guy had to put up with my lamentations over many a phone call). I went so far as to get my testosterone tested..

A woman's visible sexual desire for me excites me, especially when she attempts to use her body and sexuality to seduce me. The containment and inner composure scenarios like that call for in order to close things out properly (and the subsequent increase in attraction that causes in a girl) make a seduction worthwhile and stimulating to me.
Fuck an orgasm, that is what i do it for. I'd like more of it..and if I can't get it I'll honestly just hang up my boots and find thrills elsewhere.

I hope, that at least for now, getting girls to close me and rabidly chase me for sex will keep the boredom away for a while before that too loses its lustre. And sexualized texting (if it proves to work as i hope it will) will be a key proponent in achieving this goal.

-----------------------------

Tips, techniques, anecdotes - if you've got 'em lets hear 'em!

I plan to collect a high volume of numbers via online & daygame in January, and burn them all down to the ground experiementing until I find a winning process (I spent 3 months in 2022 doing this with @Skills famous text guide until it clicked).

Once I've got it locked I'll spin up a guide and share it on the forum.

Thanks guys.

TC

But you don't like to text... Just lol ...

 

[topcat]

But you don't like to text... Just lol ...

Bro that’s what it’s come to…
Imagine how bored I am

 

[Skills]

Bro that’s what it’s come to…
Imagine how bored I am

topcat again as you know the problem with online is greyhound day is so repetitive it gets boring..... That boredom can get people down (i know cause i was there, no depressing per se, but down, cause is so repetitive and predictable)......... This is not limited to online sometimes in structure game this happens, happened to me when i first started doing the 8 orgasms and teevester/second gen over and over.... I heard stories of dudes doing some other forms of live structure game that happened the same(chase mention this in post somewhere as well).... The problem with online is that you get this on steroids.... I don't know if there is a way around that for online tbh...


- there was a point in my life were i was big on texting a lot it was fun cause i was experimenting a lot trying a lot of new stuff, i have shift and i don't enjoy the long texting like i used to (got bored after so long doing it lose the excitement and girls were getting too attached), but i can do shorter but is as strong as the longer, i learned to condense more, cause as i got older i did not enjoy longer texting much like i used to.

so you open Or get open>banter normally/flirt to gauge reactions (which is the whole point)/ when there is an in or opening that is when you do it, the main important part of sexualizing is being indirect during text with the sexual humor (i call it grandmaster 2.0) and the second gen stuff, there is not really an structure per se but if done right it looks like this:

So again, here is the structure is a bit more advance (but no really, you just need patience):

Open>flirt/charm/seduce/second gen.> wait for her soft close, hint or hard close > only after this you hard close

read the post and read the second entry i made in the post about ijjjji method.

The forcing sexualizing is not ideal you need to find an in or bait and in on the convo. and take it there ( i literally at times would copy and paste different teevester posts or routines cause i was texting from the computer using google voice.....fractionation is SUPER important... The different sexualizing methods fort text that exist with humor direct and indirect grandmaster I will link you only to the text differences with live samples and the same text sex direct and indirect with direct and indirect sexual those are the only 4 ways to do it,

^ i would save stuff like second gen or teevester routines just like in person to mid game in texting... in other words open>banter>when she is comfortable and start investing that is when you do second gen... (kind of mid game)... in the beginning stages more like teasing and indirect grandmaster you obviously will know when she is comfortable and used to your text and investing that is when you do it..... But again, i think this is like asking a dude that don't like water but takes the necessary shower to start swimming for a competition. you don't like texting dude and i don't think you have much patience.