Sexually inexperienced men need time and exposure to receptive women to learn to sense and respond to receptive women's signals

[Chase]

Last week I posted an article on how surprised I was when I first started coaching at men's relative inability to recognize female signals:

Girls' Signs of Interest: Why Can't Most Men See Them?

Most guys have ‘signal blindness’ to many of the signs women send. Why is this… and what can they do to start seeing women’s signals and signs of interest? When I first started coaching men on meeting women, I discovered I had an unusual power nearly none of the men I coached possessed: I was...

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I'm doing some work on my romantic attraction book and just came across a few fascinating studies. Normally we think "this stuff is all instinct", right? But actually a fair bit of it requires quite some learning, as I talked about with animal examples in this article:

Males of Every Species Must Learn Game to Mate

Males of every animal species must practice and learn courtship rituals before they’re able to mate. The art of learning to court is a ubiquitous one – it is not human-only! Images created with Craiyon. I’m reading a truly fascinating, mind-expanding book right now entitled The Mating Mind. I’ve...

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(male blue manakin birds, for instance, require 10 years of learning game before they get their first lay. Be happy you're not a blue manakin...!)

Well, guess what these new studies showed?

• Naïve male rats' brains barely respond to female rats' signs of estrus; meanwhile, sexually experienced male rats are all over the females in heat. Rats need to learn to recognize receptive female signals before their brains start to really register them (study)
  
  
• Naïve male hamsters' brains barely respond to female hamsters' signs of estrus; just like rats, though, sexually experienced male hamsters register receptive females much faster with far more activation in their brains (study)

A sexually inexperienced male rat or hamster can have a horny, fertile female parading around in front of him and his brain only sort of goes, "Huh? Am I supposed to do something here, or...?" Meanwhile the sexually experienced male rat or hamster knows what is happening right away and begins his courtship and secures the female.

This is all interesting to me, because for a long time I've thought "men probably naturally have these instincts; it's just because our society is so anti-instinctual that guys have to learn this stuff this way" but more and more it's becoming clear that it is always a thing males have to learn. The difference between modern times and the past (i.e., why we've developed a seduction industry / dating tips for men now, whereas we didn't have this much/at all in the past) is probably due to some combination between the much-extended periods of singleness we have now (people must date many more people, leading to much higher experience levels, stronger preferences, and greater demands, leading to more discerning/demanding mates in the dating pool), the larger communities we live in now (many more opportunities & much more competition), plus the lack of mentoring between older and younger men compared to the past (knowledge is not getting passed on locally anymore).

Goes back to rising mating complexity in the end I suppose:

As Mating Complexity Increases, Do Reproductive Returns Diminish?

Mating gets more complex as our societies become more complex. But as complexity rises, does the law of diminishing (reproductive) returns set in? (image source: Darwin Leo) Bit of an abstract/sociological article here. A little more academic than usual, too. If you'd prefer tactics on dealing...

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Anyway, the tl;dr for beginners is:

Don't feel bad if you're missing signals, kicking yourself after dropping the ball on this girl or that girl, and so on, and so forth.

It happens to rats and hamsters too.

Much of this is just getting your experience levels up, which (if we go by the rat and hamster studies) actually means training your brain to light up a bunch more regions when your senses pick up women engaged in signaling their receptivity, so you can then act properly with actions calibrated to the woman's interest level.

In other words:

Get in field!

Cheers,
Chase

 

[Kvothe]

I feel like there's an implication of exponential returns in that case as you keep gaining experience (at least relative to general population)-i.e. once you start getting results, you'll start getting more results even faster

 

[POB]

plus the lack of mentoring between older and younger men compared to the past (knowledge is not getting passed on locally anymore).

All primitive societies have a "rite of passage", where a boy must complete a challenge to become a man; and a "mating ritual", where this new man is given permission to choose a female companion to start a family.

Up until that point, guys stay on one side, learning from older guys, and girls stay on the other, learning from elderly women. They are carefully taught how to behave, and what to expect of adulthood. They learn what are their new obligations and responsibilities, and what privileges may come from it.

Right now we basically live in a fatherless society that abandoned those 2 rituals...young boys are destined to fail.

 

[Chase]

@Kvothe,

I feel like there's an implication of exponential returns in that case as you keep gaining experience (at least relative to general population)-i.e. once you start getting results, you'll start getting more results even faster

It's more of a logarithmic growth, in that once you start gaining experience you go up a lot in results consistently for a fair bit of time, until eventually the growth begins leveling off and you reach a point of diminishing returns.

You can always continue to get more sharply attuned. The gains just eventually come smaller and slower... but by that point you're already so attuned it's not much of an issue.


@POB,

All primitive societies have a "rite of passage", where a boy must complete a challenge to become a man; and a "mating ritual", where this new man is given permission to choose a female companion to start a family.

Up until that point, guys stay on one side, learning from older guys, and girls stay on the other, learning from elderly women. They are carefully taught how to behave, and what to expect of adulthood. They learn what are their new obligations and responsibilities, and what privileges may come from it.

Right now we basically live in a fatherless society that abandoned those 2 rituals...young boys are destined to fail.

Yes. It's hard to maintain those in large, urbanized societies. You need small, tight-knit communities for that.

Even up until 50 or so years ago though it was common for older guys to take younger guys under their wings and advise them, and for younger guys to be receptive to that. Now, older guys don't offer, and younger guys don't want to hear. There seems to just be a general breakdown in generational wisdom transfer. Which is sad.

Chase

 

[POB]

Yes. It's hard to maintain those in large, urbanized societies. You need small, tight-knit communities for that.

Even up until 50 or so years ago though it was common for older guys to take younger guys under their wings and advise them, and for younger guys to be receptive to that. Now, older guys don't offer, and younger guys don't want to hear. There seems to just be a general breakdown in generational wisdom transfer. Which is sad.

Precisely!
My point is those things were never updated to modern society.
What we have now? Exams to go into college? The first job? The first trip to a brothel?
50 years ago, those same 18yo dudes were being shipped across the world to fight an invisible enemy in a jungle war!

People love to complain young guys are soft....but nobody gives them a proper masculine challenge to force them to grow.

 

[James D]

'm doing some work on my romantic attraction book

That sounds interesting! Will it be a GC course/product?

 

[Chase]

What we have now? Exams to go into college? The first job? The first trip to a brothel?
50 years ago, those same 18yo dudes were being shipped across the world to fight an invisible enemy in a jungle war!

People love to complain young guys are soft....but nobody gives them a proper masculine challenge to force them to grow.

lol, well, I get you, though at the same time that was just a small fraction of the male population.

My father never served in 'Nam (he would've been too young at the time anyway), nor did his older brother, but they both did fine with women, to the point that my father expressed disappointment that I would even feel I needed to learn pickup as a young man (I love & admire my father, but he certainly did not offer much in the way of guidance with girls. Considering I totally lacked friends, and had no brothers, not sure where else he expected me to learn it from...!).

I've known military guys who were initiated into women by older military guys taking them out to go clubbing or whoring while on deployment in some remote post. There's definitely an initiation there for men. Or was. Not sure how much of it is still allowed in modern Western militaries...

But we used to have it everywhere in society, men mentoring other men. Now it's just gone.

That's atomization for you..

 

[Chase]

That sounds interesting! Will it be a GC course/product?

It's a popular science book I'll build a bestseller campaign for.

More details in the Community thread here.

 

[Warped Mindless]

So speaking of signals; funny story about how I discovered game.

It was 2006, the year I got my license when the girl I had a huge crush on asked me if I could give her a ride home after school.

I was infatuated with this chick but felt she was entirely out of my league. The popular guys were always hitting on her and she was hot! That said, I thought nothing of it and gave her a ride.

Once we got there she tells me “my parents won’t be back until late. Want a tour?”

“Sure I guess” suspecting nothing of it.

She proceeds to give me a 10 second whirl wind tour of the house and we end up in her bedroom where she sits down on her bed and looks right at me.

“Wish we had something fun to do” she says.

“Yeah me too” I replied wondering if she had any ideas.

Yes, I was clueless! It never occurred to me as a possibility that she was interested.

We made small talk and I left. A couple of days later she invites me over again and the same exact situation plays out once more.

I remember getting back home and thinking to myself…

“Fuck! I wish I could get girls like her!”

My “seduction IQ” was lower than the room temperature back then.

I fired up my Dell Windows XP computer, waited for the annoying dial up sound (think Dubsep) to disappear, and started searching random keywords on how to get women. Sometime that evening I happens upon some random PDF that contained early PUA advice.

Fuck did my life ever change that day…

 

[Swati]

So speaking of signals; funny story about how I discovered game.

It was 2006, the year I got my license when the girl I had a huge crush on asked me if I could give her a ride home after school.

I was infatuated with this chick but felt she was entirely out of my league. The popular guys were always hitting on her and she was hot! That said, I thought nothing of it and gave her a ride.

Once we got there she tells me “my parents won’t be back until late. Want a tour?”

“Sure I guess” suspecting nothing of it.

She proceeds to give me a 10 second whirl wind tour of the house and we end up in her bedroom where she sits down on her bed and looks right at me.

“Wish we had something fun to do” she says.

“Yeah me too” I replied wondering if she had any ideas.

Yes, I was clueless! It never occurred to me as a possibility that she was interested.

We made small talk and I left. A couple of days later she invites me over again and the same exact situation plays out once more.

I remember getting back home and thinking to myself…

“Fuck! I wish I could get girls like her!”

My “seduction IQ” was lower than the room temperature back then.

I fired up my Dell Windows XP computer, waited for the annoying dial up sound (think Dubsep) to disappear, and started searching random keywords on how to get women. Sometime that evening I happens upon some random PDF that contained early PUA advice.

Fuck did my life ever change that day…

interesting as these kinds of things usually happened when I was a noobie, not in PU. NOW I run through the dates or pull them... no free pussy other than the here and there girl's approaching me, even then I needed game

Maybe is an attainability issue as I've aged. it's no longer happening to me. Probably should dress like shit more LOL

I've had girls over at my places, "DO YOU WANT SEX?!?! (In a frustrated way) she was like 9!!!! when I was in college I fumbled that shit and on other occasion of having girls over and riding home, at my apartment, at the last resistance and not pulling, etc

 

[DarkKnight]

Odd thing is even when highly inexperienced i just knew. We went to a trip with and this girl from another class kept hovering around me, she ended up in bed with me

Even the infamous "we wont have sex", I just knew we would have sex. This was the same girl. I barely had prior experience but I just knew, I recall saying to some classmates I will lay her. Thought it was like one big American pie movie. She simply followed me to my bed.

Things were much easier back in the day, or was it everyones inexperience?

 

[Spyce D]

That's why I took up classes(from dancing to even teaching ) ,did a few game sessions here and there , went to a lot of online meetups for my career as well as to meet women so as to get comfortable talking to them after october 2022 , I guess.

Remember my post .

https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/why-am-i-so-scared-in-life-need-advice.26685/

Needless to say , I have gotten calmer while talking to chicks in real life , but still a lot to be done .

Consider it as a small testimonial to the advice and support I got on the above mentioned post .

 

[Chase]

interesting as these kinds of things usually happened when I was a noobie, not in PU. NOW I run through the dates or pull them... no free pussy other than the here and there girl's approaching me, even then I needed game

Maybe is an attainability issue as I've aged. it's no longer happening to me. Probably should dress like shit more LOL

I've had girls over at my places, "DO YOU WANT SEX?!?! (In a frustrated way) she was like 9!!!! when I was in college I fumbled that shit and on other occasion of having girls over and riding home, at my apartment, at the last resistance and not pulling, etc

Same experience for me. I think it's two things:

1. I'm not in social circle situations anymore where a girl's been around me, infatuated with me, angling for me for months without me taking action and she's finally resolved to do something about it herself.
   
   
2. There's another phenomenon I've noticed, where if you pay attention to a woman at all in a certain way, with that sort of predatory seductive look, the masculine take-charge look, she is simply not going to make any moves herself. She will just solicit your moves and expect you to make them yourself. The only way to get girls being really aggressive is to never look at them like that at all and leave them thinking you're not the type of guy who is going to notice their signals or take action.

Experimenting with this with approach invitations in cafés over the years, where I do a lot of work, and don't always want to approach because I have things to do and am not trying to switch over into PU mode, I have noticed that if I ignore a girl giving me AIs, she just makes them more and more obvious, working harder and harder to try to get my attention, and eventually sometimes will open me herself (especially if I am alone, doing something artistic like drawing on my drawing iPad, and/or wearing the cute-and-sexy look). The moment I acknowledge her AIs, though, she switches over to more subdued AIs and to a kind of "anticipate approach" mode. This will sometimes reset if you then ignore her for a long while... say 45 minutes... then she may eventually start signaling increasingly hard again, and occasionally might approach... the rest of the time she just gives up and seemingly concludes you're not interested.

So the good rule of thumb with approach invitations: if you're getting them, don't even acknowledge the girl unless/until you're going to approach. A surreptitious glance to check her out before deciding whether to approach can be okay, but no direct eye contact, no checking her out while she's checking you out, until you're ready to rock and roll.

I had a buddy who was experimenting with not escalating on girls he brought home. He would just flirt with them without touching them or escalating on them until they could stand it no more and started escalating on him themselves. Sometimes he pushed it too far by trying to deny their escalation attempts, and they'd get too frustrated and leave.

But the main gist seems to be: she's not going to do anything if she thinks you're going to do something.

The only time a woman takes action herself is if she thinks you're simply never going to do what she wants, and she decides to make it happen on her own.

(that's too infrequent and unpredictable to rely on, though, which is why you don't see anybody teaching "my way of getting girls to approach you themselves and run the pick up themselves and do the whole escalation themselves" -- it is just too rare and too fickle to make a dependable method)

Chase

 

[Zoro]

So speaking of signals; funny story about how I discovered game.

It was 2006, the year I got my license when the girl I had a huge crush on asked me if I could give her a ride home after school.

I was infatuated with this chick but felt she was entirely out of my league. The popular guys were always hitting on her and she was hot! That said, I thought nothing of it and gave her a ride.

Once we got there she tells me “my parents won’t be back until late. Want a tour?”

“Sure I guess” suspecting nothing of it.

She proceeds to give me a 10 second whirl wind tour of the house and we end up in her bedroom where she sits down on her bed and looks right at me.

“Wish we had something fun to do” she says.

“Yeah me too” I replied wondering if she had any ideas.

Yes, I was clueless! It never occurred to me as a possibility that she was interested.

We made small talk and I left. A couple of days later she invites me over again and the same exact situation plays out once more.

I remember getting back home and thinking to myself…

“Fuck! I wish I could get girls like her!”

My “seduction IQ” was lower than the room temperature back then.

I fired up my Dell Windows XP computer, waited for the annoying dial up sound (think Dubsep) to disappear, and started searching random keywords on how to get women. Sometime that evening I happens upon some random PDF that contained early PUA advice.

Fuck did my life ever change that day…

This hurts to read because I’ve had some very similar experiences as a high schooler. Her sitting on the bed… with no one home… patiently waiting for something… Looking back it’s hilariously obvious, but at the time it was just awkward.

Worse was the time in middle school I somehow had a friend bring over one of the hottest girls in school to hook up with me, because she was friends with his fuck buddy, and they all wanted to come over since no one was home at my house. We made out for 10 minutes until my face hurt, I was loving it. But she suddenly stopped us and said she “wants to do something else”, I was crestfallen that she might want to go for a walk or watch TV instead of continuing to make out. Fortunately we went back to making out. A few months later it suddenly hit me like a brick wall what she really meant.

Experimenting with this with approach invitations in cafés over the years, where I do a lot of work, and don't always want to approach because I have things to do and am not trying to switch over into PU mode, I have noticed that if I ignore a girl giving me AIs, she just makes them more and more obvious, working harder and harder to try to get my attention, and eventually sometimes will open me herself (especially if I am alone, doing something artistic like drawing on my drawing iPad, and/or wearing the cute-and-sexy look). The moment I acknowledge her AIs, though, she switches over to more subdued AIs and to a kind of "anticipate approach" mode. This will sometimes reset if you then ignore her for a long while... say 45 minutes... then she may eventually start signaling increasingly hard again, and occasionally might approach... the rest of the time she just gives up and seemingly concludes you're not interested.

I was thinking about this the other day after reading your article on guys being blind to signals. I wonder if sometimes that is due to those guys being a bit more obvious of their interest and openness to meet, and then getting very subtle and general signals coming their way. As opposed to a guy who is more laidback and subtle about his own interest, therefore gets “louder” signals.

I tried this at the beach yesterday. Saw a cute girl in the water and I started getting near to her but noticed her body language was closed off. So I completely closed off my body language and tried to show zero interest in her. The next time I looked at her, her body was directly facing me and looking my way.

I personally have been a bit blind to signals, but I’m also noticing a negative mental pattern that plays out in my behavior, that of being very interested in women I see. I’m realizing that might be noticeable, thus if the girl picks up on that she feels no need to signal or just signals very subtly and ambiguously.

I imagine that if you behave in a way that triggers signals, it’s also a better dynamic, with her putting in more effort to get your attention. Another bonus of using pre-openers, like letting her see you first and acting like you haven’t even noticed her yet.

 

[Chase]

@Wick,

Hmm, interesting:

I was thinking about this the other day after reading your article on guys being blind to signals. I wonder if sometimes that is due to those guys being a bit more obvious of their interest and openness to meet, and then getting very subtle and general signals coming their way. As opposed to a guy who is more laidback and subtle about his own interest, therefore gets “louder” signals.

I have never thought about that before.

I've been playing the subtle game with girls since... ever. Just staring at a girl gives up too much power. I want them checking me out, working to get my attention, before they get it. Or if they're not, at least pre-open them and get them feeling like they looked first.

But yeah, I guess most guys aren't doing that. Most guys are just eyeballing girls, and then the girls play coy.

Really excellent insight!

I tried this at the beach yesterday. Saw a cute girl in the water and I started getting near to her but noticed her body language was closed off. So I completely closed off my body language and tried to show zero interest in her. The next time I looked at her, her body was directly facing me and looking my way.

Yep, that'll do it.

Not giving her attention... she wants attention... forced to do a little work to try to get that attention.

I personally have been a bit blind to signals, but I’m also noticing a negative mental pattern that plays out in my behavior, that of being very interested in women I see. I’m realizing that might be noticeable, thus if the girl picks up on that she feels no need to signal or just signals very subtly and ambiguously.

Women are extremely attuned to how much attention guys are paying them.

I have been subtle in paying attention to them my whole life and they still catch me half the time if I'm too obvious about it.

I imagine that if you behave in a way that triggers signals, it’s also a better dynamic, with her putting in more effort to get your attention. Another bonus of using pre-openers, like letting her see you first and acting like you haven’t even noticed her yet.

That's my M.O.

Of course some guys are different.

I forget who, I recall reading or hearing from a guy a while back who said he would just go out and stare at girls everywhere he went, and if they stared back that was his invitation. Or if they looked down then looked back again, that was his invitation.

That can be real effective too, and I will set subtlety aside sometimes and do that. You get some girls who eye-roll you, some who quick look away to the side, and then you get the girls who just get really excited and stare back and smile when you smile at them. They're always super cheerful on the open.

But if you're going to do that you have to be ready to hold firm eye contact, escalate to the smile when it's returned, then go in if you get that returned, zero pussy-footing around. If you're not in-state it's a bit of a chore (that said, it is also the single best exercise IMO to get in-state). Hard to do anywhere that isn't the street or a mall, or walking around in a really big club with a lot of turnover and movement in it. If it's a more static environment you're usually better off playing it safer and eliciting approach invitations first... the ol' pAImAI game:

Tactics Tuesdays: Attention Grabs (to Elicit Approach Invitations)

Here’s an oldie but a goodie from the bygone days of Fast Seduction: Jay’s (Formhandle’s) pre-approach invitation male approach invitation, which used the (rather exhausting) acronym ‘pAImAI’. It’s a complicated-sounding name for a simple technique: behave in an attention-grabbing way that...

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Attention Grabs – Make Girls Think They Invited YOU to Approach

Your normal go-to openers may be great, but they can be even better if you make her think SHE invited YOU to approach. It’s so easy you can start doing this now! Contents I. The Approach Invitation II. Induce Your Invitations III. How Does It Work? IV. Other Examples V. Get Her Attention VI...

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Chase

 

[POB]

But we used to have it everywhere in society, men mentoring other men. Now it's just gone.

Couple of reasons for that:
- this older guard is either dead or retired. In fact a lot of those amazing guys are more interested in other stuff than to teach a bunch of crybabies who can sue them for nothing.
- no cultural role models. Who are the guys doing masculine movies these days? Sly? He is 76. Eastwood just turned 90! Even Tom cruise is over 60. Arnold has made a shift recently, and now is a fucking wannabe vegan who is preaching against cow's farts to save the planet . I won't even mention James Cameron or Ridley Scott.
- no real life role models. Most fathers are slaves to their own boring lives. They can only teach failure to their kids. Sometimes you are lucky to have a cool uncle or something to take you under his wing, but it's rare.

 

[Zoro]

I've been playing the subtle game with girls since... ever. Just staring at a girl gives up too much power. I want them checking me out, working to get my attention, before they get it. Or if they're not, at least pre-open them and get them feeling like they looked first.

But yeah, I guess most guys aren't doing that. Most guys are just eyeballing girls, and then the girls play coy.

So after reading your responses I decided that this is something I want to change. While I was at the grocery store, I deliberately tried to not even look at women who out of my peripheral vision that I sensed might be attractive.

And WOW, I did not expect it to be so difficult. I have inadvertently trained my eyes to scan for potential hotties. My eyes are like magnets to booty. The interesting thing for me to realize was not just that this is a bigger issue than I thought, but that I was checking out unattractive women too, in a "I wonder if she's hot" kind of way.

It was honestly a bit disorientating to do, especially because I like be very environmentally aware. I think I'm going to try to largely ignore every attractive woman to the extreme to see if that helps me. The goal is to no longer give off those "I'm on the look out for attractive women and you might be one" signals.

I know there has to be a balance here. I can't be oblivious to my surroundings and run into something, and I also do want to notice attractive women so I can meet them. And also do not think the goal is to communicate disinterest since that could trigger auto-rejection from her, but rather simply communicate that I did not notice her or at least seem like I did not yet notice her. My focus is on other things, not on women in that moment.

This is connecting so many dots to some sticking points for me. The last time I had an "aha!" moment like this was years ago when I discovered I could indeed cold approach and a new world seemed to open up in front of me.

 

[Chase]

It was honestly a bit disorientating to do, especially because I like be very environmentally aware. I think I'm going to try to largely ignore every attractive woman to the extreme to see if that helps me. The goal is to no longer give off those "I'm on the look out for attractive women and you might be one" signals.

What you want to do is train up your peripheral vision. You should be able to scan your environment while seeming 'not' to notice women but recognizing where they are and getting a rough idea for their body shape, clothes, hair, etc. You can tell a woman's age from her hair and butt from behind... a girl in her 20s has a much higher butt and silkier hair than a girl in her mid-30s or even older.

You also get a free pass when you first walk into a place, and that is when you do a scan of the whole environment. Look it all over, take everything in, but aim to spend no more time looking at a girl than you do anyone else, aiming to look 'through' her rather than at her when your eyes pass through her area. If she's paying attention you should seem to not 'register' her when you sweep her over with your eyes. You do that once (or walk through the venue scanning once if you can't scope it out with a single scan), and file it away in your head where the good-looking girls are, then just don't pay them any more attention until they've had a chance to check you out and hopefully send some invitations over.

You will get girls feeding you AIs during the initial scan sometimes too, especially if you're doing it only after you've already been in eyeshot a minute or so and she's already had time to notice you and decide she likes you; you just pretend not to see this when you're scanning, and she will keep up the AIs.

Once your ability to scan on room entry + view things with your peripherals is trained up, you can pretty much walk into an area, know where the hot girls are, keep track of them, and just watch through your peripheral vision which ones are signaling to you.

You won't have as clear an idea how beautiful or not she is from scans + peripherals but you'll have a pretty good idea, based off body type, hair, how she moves, etc. If you sometimes approach a girl who's a Plain Jane, no big deal, just flirt for a minute and eject. Not the end of the world!

Chase

 

[Bismarck]

Thanks for this thread, Chase.

As I was rereading this entry from my journal I realized now it makes more sense, knowing what I know from what you wrote here re. peripheral vision (not overtly checking the babes out, and giving them room to wonder why you aren't gawking at them, in the process letting them check you out, making it easier to approach then as she has solidified in her mind that she noticed you first, IOW that she's interested in you):

Saturday 18 June 2022
Yesterday was very hot here. Above 30 celsius. Quite rare in these parts. I was on my way to a festival type event thing when I indirect approached a girl standing before her phone on a sidewalk at around 1pm. I asked her: "Are you lost?" She said "No, I'm fine, thanks" and actually took one or two steps back in fear. Up close she wasn't all that, I realized. I bid her my farewells.

Next, on my way back home, around 1.45pm, the following transpired:

I recently purchased some very nice (if excessively expensive) new threads. I was wearing them yesterday. Stylish AF white linen button-down (collar-less) with colorful flower patterns and cool thin-fabric light grey trousers with my black comfy gel Asics sneakers (low back herniation).

I was entering the metro station and suddenly there was this sexy-looking chick in front of me on the electric stairs (heading downwards onto the first underground level of the station). She had shoulder-length dark brown hair and a one-piece orange summer dress, sandals, and a little stylish purse on.

I went about my business without paying her much mind. Next I descended the electric stairs onto the platform. I was standing on the platform when she descended onto the same platform. My peripheral registered it was her but I resisted the impulse to check her out and see if she was cute as well. Instead I looked to see if the train was coming.

Then she moved to my general area (not exactly "next to me," but close by). And I glanced at her, only to notice she was looking at me. She had green eyes. She was pretty. What a babe...

The train arrived, and I walked in. Apparently she went into the same carriage. She was standing. I looked for a place to sit but there were none, so I went to stand next to her.

I was busy answering some WhatsApp messages on my smartphone but soon all that ended. I put my phone back in my pocket and I thought, "I need to say something to her, she's so gorgeous, I can't let this moment pass"

The next station came and I thought she might leave and then I would never see her again. I thought about stopping her or stepping out with her. But she didn't get out.

So I finally mustered, heart beating, "It's hot today, isn't it?"
She looked at me and beamed from ear to ear. God she was so delicious...
She said, "yes", still smiling.
"Is it usually like that?" I asked her, to which she said, "I don't know, I'm not from here.."
"Oh, really? I thought you were a local...Where are you from?"
"[xxx]"
"Ah, but that's not too different from here"
"No..."
"I was there in January, and the weather was so bad...It's only a 3-hour train ride away"
"Or 2 hours by car," she riposted.

We were arriving at the station where I would descend, which it just so happens was the same one she was getting off on.

We walked out together and I kept this "questions of death" conversation alive.

As we walked up to street level, when we arrived at the top, she said, "I have to go this way" with an apologetic, nervous voice, still smiling.

I said, "Bye" and walked away. Very quickly I thought I missed the opportunity to close somehow, considering the clear chemistry between us (her noticing me, us obviously being attracted to each other from a baseline level - her reaction to my style upgrades was obviously an important part of the equation), inviting her to meet again (for instance, today, if she's still around). ABC (Always be closing!)

Lessons learned: absolutely succulent belles want me. Even if the content of what I tell them isn't spick and span like others on this board, talking with a deep booming bass voice from the groin (even if not loud) is good form, coupled with the style tweaks mentioned above and not terrible posture. I'm also tanned, which helps.

To improve: it would help to have some canned material for interactions like these. Emotional stims, rainbow ruses, etc.

 

[Chase]

@Bismarck,

Yeah, that's it exactly. You were busy checking the train signal, so she worked harder and drew nearer to get your attention. Still ignored her, so she worked harder.

I was expecting you to take her number before you let her part ways though!

I bet you wouldn't let her go so easy now, a year later...

Chase