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She's not rejecting you, just your approach

Bismarck

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I recently approached a cute/hot American late teen/early twenty-something brunette while vacationing abroad. Even though she seemed DTF, the fact that I went for the date suggest and number close without establishing sufficient comfort/rapport (or qualifying her, creating compliance, etc.), led nowhere. She didn't reply to my ice-breaker.

She did reply to Skills' soft close text though, which I followed the ice-breaker up with the next day (my last day there), "Let's go for a quick meet and greet to see if the vibe is there," by texting: "It's not there for me."

At first blush, it may seem like she is rejecting me.

But, on second thoughts, considering I interacted with her for all of 3 minutes, at most 5 minutes, that's impossible. She doesn't know me. She reacted to my overall presentation during those few minutes, my posture, eye contact, vocal tonality, facial expressions, and the content of our conversation.

One of the keys to achieving success with girls is to toe the line between being excessively harsh with yourself, taking "rejections" personally (getting ego-hurt), and not carrying out the tinkering necessary to optimize said self-presentation to win (aside from the fundamentals, learning engaging gambits or "chick crack" to reel her in). The ideal is somewhere in between.
 

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One of the keys to achieving success with girls is to toe the line between being excessively harsh with yourself, taking "rejections" personally (getting ego-hurt), and not carrying out the tinkering necessary to optimize said self-presentation to win (aside from the fundamentals, learning engaging gambits or "chick crack" to reel her in).
There has to be an easier way to write that sentence... there just has to be! Even for someone who knows all the terminology on this site, it's still gotta make your head hurt a little.
 
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I recently approached a cute/hot American late teen/early twenty-something brunette while vacationing abroad. Even though she seemed DTF, the fact that I went for the date suggest and number close without establishing sufficient comfort/rapport (or qualifying her, creating compliance, etc.), led nowhere. She didn't reply to my ice-breaker.

She did reply to Skills' soft close text though, which I followed the ice-breaker up with the next day (my last day there), "Let's go for a quick meet and greet to see if the vibe is there," by texting: "It's not there for me."

At first blush, it may seem like she is rejecting me.

But, on second thoughts, considering I interacted with her for all of 3 minutes, at most 5 minutes, that's impossible. She doesn't know me. She reacted to my overall presentation during those few minutes, my posture, eye contact, vocal tonality, facial expressions, and the content of our conversation.

One of the keys to achieving success with girls is to toe the line between being excessively harsh with yourself, taking "rejections" personally (getting ego-hurt), and not carrying out the tinkering necessary to optimize said self-presentation to win (aside from the fundamentals, learning engaging gambits or "chick crack" to reel her in). The ideal is somewhere in between.
Bismark, i do agree and every texting post i write, i say numbers don't mean shit nad that the requirement is a strong interaction....But just for the future, you send ice breaker, she does not respond, and then you open with the soft close, lack strategy....

I personally advice that if she does not reply to ice breaker, you need to ping... till she responds... Following a no response ice breaker with a soft close is low odds even if it was a strong interaction involving the things you concluded in the post... This is by skills:

The skill structure: open(have her text you, or continue convo thread)>banter>at HIGH POINT OF INTERACTION/INVESTMENT ONLY, SOFT CLOSE> now keep her on the straight line don't let her deviate from the soft close if she does not address it (don't change the subject, i asked _______ subject)>if she bites on soft close then AND ONLY THEN HARD CLOSE> if not cont. banter and rinse wash repeat....

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