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I've realized recently that I get VERY DIFFERENT reactions when I'm out doing day game comparing to going out in a bar, nightclub or my social circle.
I'm very good at social proof so when I'm in a closed off venue (regardless if it's my own social circle or a new one), after about 30-60 minuts of socializing I will be having good enough social proof that all of my approaches are AT LEAST warm. I quite often get approached by women, so I'm sure my social proof works very well.
DAY GAME GETS PROBLEMATIC
It's a very different story during day game. There are two main differences:
1) I'm on my own,
2) It's an open-ended space with women being on the move,
For that reason I'm not able to socialize with other people and make her see my social proof.
The results? Even though I'm physicially attractive, I get DOZENS OF 'I HAVE A BOYFRIEND' REACTIONS. Also, with the very young chicks, I also get the age questions often. And not only the question but they make a problem out of it.
There are four important considerations here:
1) I'm somehow an intermediate day gamer. Not a newbie but not very experienced neither. I did probably few hundred approaches in total, got laid somewhere between 5 to 10 times from day game.
2) Majority of the time I open DIRECT.
3) Right now I open MOSTLY or ALMOST ONLY at least 8+, most of the time I try to open the top 1% of chicks in the mall. Basically, the ones I really, really like the most, I try to open. So the difficulty when it comes to value is high. The lays I previously got were also with pretty girls but maybe a notch lower. I would say most of them were around 7.5-8 on my scale, with some 8.5, some 6s.
4) I don't project much sexual vibe in these early conversations. The mall is just not very sexual place to me, so I usully don't feel much of sexual energy there.
WHAT IS MY PROBLEM AND HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?
These are some ideas/ways going forward I had in mind:
1) Since I'm approaching the hottest chicks and I get plenty of these 'I have a boyfriend' answers, it means I HAVE A VALUE PROBLEM. Therefore I'm thinking about adding some EDGE, SOME BAD BOY VIBE. There is not that much I can add when it comes to physical attractiveness. Maybe half a point. So I'm thinking about shifting my energy towards more MASCULINITY DURING THE DAY. I'm thinking about CHALLENGING them more and doing STRONGER MOVES. I remember I asked one woman to cancel her Uber after I approached her on the streets when she was waiting for her cab. And it worked.
2) Instead of going DIRECT, I should open INDIRECTLY and use hooking phase to elicit more value through conversation, social and emotional stimulation.
3) Add more SEXUAL TENSION on my self.
This whole situation is kind of DIFFERENT to me because during night game and online, majority of the time, my main problem is ATTAINABILITY. However, applying my typical attainability fix moves doesn't help in day game. I feel that through the attainability moves I'm sliding into a nice guy category.
Any suggestions?
I'm very good at social proof so when I'm in a closed off venue (regardless if it's my own social circle or a new one), after about 30-60 minuts of socializing I will be having good enough social proof that all of my approaches are AT LEAST warm. I quite often get approached by women, so I'm sure my social proof works very well.
DAY GAME GETS PROBLEMATIC
It's a very different story during day game. There are two main differences:
1) I'm on my own,
2) It's an open-ended space with women being on the move,
For that reason I'm not able to socialize with other people and make her see my social proof.
The results? Even though I'm physicially attractive, I get DOZENS OF 'I HAVE A BOYFRIEND' REACTIONS. Also, with the very young chicks, I also get the age questions often. And not only the question but they make a problem out of it.
There are four important considerations here:
1) I'm somehow an intermediate day gamer. Not a newbie but not very experienced neither. I did probably few hundred approaches in total, got laid somewhere between 5 to 10 times from day game.
2) Majority of the time I open DIRECT.
3) Right now I open MOSTLY or ALMOST ONLY at least 8+, most of the time I try to open the top 1% of chicks in the mall. Basically, the ones I really, really like the most, I try to open. So the difficulty when it comes to value is high. The lays I previously got were also with pretty girls but maybe a notch lower. I would say most of them were around 7.5-8 on my scale, with some 8.5, some 6s.
4) I don't project much sexual vibe in these early conversations. The mall is just not very sexual place to me, so I usully don't feel much of sexual energy there.
WHAT IS MY PROBLEM AND HOW SHOULD I PROCEED?
These are some ideas/ways going forward I had in mind:
1) Since I'm approaching the hottest chicks and I get plenty of these 'I have a boyfriend' answers, it means I HAVE A VALUE PROBLEM. Therefore I'm thinking about adding some EDGE, SOME BAD BOY VIBE. There is not that much I can add when it comes to physical attractiveness. Maybe half a point. So I'm thinking about shifting my energy towards more MASCULINITY DURING THE DAY. I'm thinking about CHALLENGING them more and doing STRONGER MOVES. I remember I asked one woman to cancel her Uber after I approached her on the streets when she was waiting for her cab. And it worked.
2) Instead of going DIRECT, I should open INDIRECTLY and use hooking phase to elicit more value through conversation, social and emotional stimulation.
3) Add more SEXUAL TENSION on my self.
This whole situation is kind of DIFFERENT to me because during night game and online, majority of the time, my main problem is ATTAINABILITY. However, applying my typical attainability fix moves doesn't help in day game. I feel that through the attainability moves I'm sliding into a nice guy category.
Any suggestions?
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