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It was last Tuesday. I was at the closest megamall, in the same outing that later produced this FR about an ultra-cutesy girl "working on herself."
In the attached big box store, I spotted a girl a fair bit taller than me (I'm around 5'8"), fairly dark, in an afro puff. Glasses tho - big turn-off, but it was getting late and I hadn't swung once. She was one of those somewhat Amazonian women as opposed to slender-tall. I tend to go for somewhat more slender-tall (but still curvy), but this is really not bad either; as I write this I'm curious what it'd be like to sleep with one. Maybe overweight but it was hard to tell in the thick coat she had on. Her fashion was conservative. Not exactly my type, but I've made myself a deal: if you're gonna stick with black girls, you can't be too picky with them.
I seem to recall that her glasses had somewhat thick, dark frames, possibly black. Just read a claim that this is a categorical indicator of a "joyless feminist or bipolar." Can anyone else remark on this? Am I doomed here? LOL!
The Approach
She was in an aisle with books, reading one of them. (For the record, I'm not into nerdy girls - I used to be one myself, FFS; I was just scanning the whole store!) I entered from the other side. Half-feigned interest in a book 8 feet from her for probably well under a minute. (I tried several times to read the back, but my brain actually would not, out of fear of letting the girl get away.) Put it back, closed the rest of the distance and squeezed her elbow.
I should probably try looking slightly away or something as I touch the girl, so that she looks first, but I keep forgetting. So, I was probably looking. Not sure if I was facing her.
She looked and I gave it half a second before saying "hey." When she answered I told her I like the afro puff. (I like to refer to their hairstyles by name.) She nicely thanks me and goes back to her book, but the way she did the latter didn't feel like "go away" - seemed more out of shyness, and/or not expecting anything more. I think she may have done this at one or two further points as well, but I'm not sure.
She's very soft-spoken. Her mannerisms (as well as appearance) are a big contrast to those of the cutesy girl; she's quite restrained in her expressions. Her character seems reserved. I'm actually not ideally into shy women, but again, at baseline 9%, pickiness would destroy me.
"Tell me your name."
She's so quiet I don't even hear the first time. lol! I get her to repeat, turning towards her more. French name.
Confirms she's a student. Was psych but changed to accounting/business admin/soemthing like that. Asked what made her change. Liked her accounting class. Asked what she liked about it. Putting together business proposals. For yourself or for someone else? (Qualifying ambition.) She's not entrepreneurial quite yet. Maybe later. I'm a bit playful with this, leaning back with a smile and sidelong glance.
Also half-queried on her liking books. This was a bit of a filler. They're a change from text books, she says.
If memory serves, at some point I realized I hadn't introduced myself, so did so whilst gesturing for her hand, which I held momentarily between fingers and thumb. Need to remember to let this linger more. She said it was nice meeting me. May have put this in the past tense.
I think she almost returned to her book, but I didn't want to leave it at that, so I proposed coffee.
She's looking forwards, not at me, smiling, not saying anything. I playfully smile and remark that she's smiling. May have given her a little poke. She still doesn't say anything but smiles more.
I have my phone out and make a contact. Put in her name and ask if I spelled it right. Forgot a silent letter. Passed it to her. She typed her number into the name field, strung right after her name. Nervous maybe? She fixes it and takes a bit of time with the last part.
We part ways and I tell her, enjoy the text books!
Non-verbals and voice were largely unmonitored but probably a little better than on prior approaches, just out of being a bit less nervous.
Post-Approach
On the way home I was debating whether to give her an intro text. In my best experiences thus far, pre-GC, I actually wasn't too quick to text. But in those cases I had some callback humour which made it easy to overcome the "who is this" hiccup. Any callback I could use in this particular case was weaker, so I decided to go for quick, around 9:20pm same day. She answered within a minute or two!
I was occupied on Wednesday, so wrote her back on Thursday, 3pm:
Maybe I didn't generate enough rapport/comfort over text? I've always thought text is a bad medium for that and should be used mainly just to arrange in-person meetings.
Also noted that this is the second time this year I've hinted for a meet immediately after texting something that had a potentially sexual interpretation. Both times they went silent. Is this a bad thing to do? Or is it that this should be ok but I have not been sexual enough in person and so appear incongruent?
Re-Engage
Seppuku reminded me in this answer that I shouldn't drop the girl too long, so I decided to write her today (Tuesday).
I think GC doesn't tend to suggest being clever in open/re-open texts, but in my own prior experiences I've generally been more likely to get responses to this than on more pedestrian texts, such as the above which she didn't answer. Now, this could be that I need to create more value in person. I don't know.
I didn't have anything beautifully crafty (love it when I do cuz it usually hooks), but I decide to try anyway, and indeed she does answer after a few hours. My use of humour is also to reassure her that I'm not pressing for anything at this point:
I actually drafted a reply which would have been okay, but opted to not send it right away since I didn't want to reply much quicker than she had been replying. Good thing, because in the meantime I thought up something much better, and a little sexier, and so instead sent this an hour later:
I don't plan on contacting her tomorrow unless she initiates. I hope that doesn't hurt things, but I don't feel like initiating contact on a day which epitomizes men supplicating to women.
I'm not nearly experienced enough to read how this seduction is likely to go. I'm especially not used to girls anywhere near as outwardly shy as her. But she's been fairly receptive. I wonder, is she going to go into "good girl" mode and put up monstrous LMR, or is she a freak waiting to be unleashed? Hmmmm...
In the attached big box store, I spotted a girl a fair bit taller than me (I'm around 5'8"), fairly dark, in an afro puff. Glasses tho - big turn-off, but it was getting late and I hadn't swung once. She was one of those somewhat Amazonian women as opposed to slender-tall. I tend to go for somewhat more slender-tall (but still curvy), but this is really not bad either; as I write this I'm curious what it'd be like to sleep with one. Maybe overweight but it was hard to tell in the thick coat she had on. Her fashion was conservative. Not exactly my type, but I've made myself a deal: if you're gonna stick with black girls, you can't be too picky with them.
I seem to recall that her glasses had somewhat thick, dark frames, possibly black. Just read a claim that this is a categorical indicator of a "joyless feminist or bipolar." Can anyone else remark on this? Am I doomed here? LOL!
The Approach
She was in an aisle with books, reading one of them. (For the record, I'm not into nerdy girls - I used to be one myself, FFS; I was just scanning the whole store!) I entered from the other side. Half-feigned interest in a book 8 feet from her for probably well under a minute. (I tried several times to read the back, but my brain actually would not, out of fear of letting the girl get away.) Put it back, closed the rest of the distance and squeezed her elbow.
I should probably try looking slightly away or something as I touch the girl, so that she looks first, but I keep forgetting. So, I was probably looking. Not sure if I was facing her.
She looked and I gave it half a second before saying "hey." When she answered I told her I like the afro puff. (I like to refer to their hairstyles by name.) She nicely thanks me and goes back to her book, but the way she did the latter didn't feel like "go away" - seemed more out of shyness, and/or not expecting anything more. I think she may have done this at one or two further points as well, but I'm not sure.
She's very soft-spoken. Her mannerisms (as well as appearance) are a big contrast to those of the cutesy girl; she's quite restrained in her expressions. Her character seems reserved. I'm actually not ideally into shy women, but again, at baseline 9%, pickiness would destroy me.
"Tell me your name."
She's so quiet I don't even hear the first time. lol! I get her to repeat, turning towards her more. French name.
Confirms she's a student. Was psych but changed to accounting/business admin/soemthing like that. Asked what made her change. Liked her accounting class. Asked what she liked about it. Putting together business proposals. For yourself or for someone else? (Qualifying ambition.) She's not entrepreneurial quite yet. Maybe later. I'm a bit playful with this, leaning back with a smile and sidelong glance.
Also half-queried on her liking books. This was a bit of a filler. They're a change from text books, she says.
If memory serves, at some point I realized I hadn't introduced myself, so did so whilst gesturing for her hand, which I held momentarily between fingers and thumb. Need to remember to let this linger more. She said it was nice meeting me. May have put this in the past tense.
I think she almost returned to her book, but I didn't want to leave it at that, so I proposed coffee.
She's looking forwards, not at me, smiling, not saying anything. I playfully smile and remark that she's smiling. May have given her a little poke. She still doesn't say anything but smiles more.
I have my phone out and make a contact. Put in her name and ask if I spelled it right. Forgot a silent letter. Passed it to her. She typed her number into the name field, strung right after her name. Nervous maybe? She fixes it and takes a bit of time with the last part.
We part ways and I tell her, enjoy the text books!
Non-verbals and voice were largely unmonitored but probably a little better than on prior approaches, just out of being a bit less nervous.
Post-Approach
On the way home I was debating whether to give her an intro text. In my best experiences thus far, pre-GC, I actually wasn't too quick to text. But in those cases I had some callback humour which made it easy to overcome the "who is this" hiccup. Any callback I could use in this particular case was weaker, so I decided to go for quick, around 9:20pm same day. She answered within a minute or two!
I was occupied on Wednesday, so wrote her back on Thursday, 3pm:
My last message was 6:30pm. She didn't answer, so I just left it over Friday, and then sent this on Saturday, 4pm:
She didn't answer. All sorts of possibilities occurred to me, and it bugged me not knowing. Not that I'm that concerned over this particular girl, but I don't like not understanding them as a class.
Maybe I didn't generate enough rapport/comfort over text? I've always thought text is a bad medium for that and should be used mainly just to arrange in-person meetings.
Also noted that this is the second time this year I've hinted for a meet immediately after texting something that had a potentially sexual interpretation. Both times they went silent. Is this a bad thing to do? Or is it that this should be ok but I have not been sexual enough in person and so appear incongruent?
Re-Engage
Seppuku reminded me in this answer that I shouldn't drop the girl too long, so I decided to write her today (Tuesday).
I think GC doesn't tend to suggest being clever in open/re-open texts, but in my own prior experiences I've generally been more likely to get responses to this than on more pedestrian texts, such as the above which she didn't answer. Now, this could be that I need to create more value in person. I don't know.
I didn't have anything beautifully crafty (love it when I do cuz it usually hooks), but I decide to try anyway, and indeed she does answer after a few hours. My use of humour is also to reassure her that I'm not pressing for anything at this point:
Good that she answered, but wasn't expecting that answer. She misinterpreted. Probably not fatal, but I really had to think about my answer. (This is why you should never have more than one or two drinks in night game!) She had framed my message as a compliment I hadn't intended, but at once I couldn't fully retract it without risking auto-rejection.
I actually drafted a reply which would have been okay, but opted to not send it right away since I didn't want to reply much quicker than she had been replying. Good thing, because in the meantime I thought up something much better, and a little sexier, and so instead sent this an hour later:
Nice. She's investing. I'm actually torn between going silent or rewarding her for the investment. I had a good follow-up to this but it assumes we're on the same page as to what "juicy" means. I'd want a follow-up that invokes the sexual undertone without depending on it. Thought of one but it could be taken quite wrong unless I get too wordy. So I just leave it. Last couple times it was her who went silent, anyway.
I don't plan on contacting her tomorrow unless she initiates. I hope that doesn't hurt things, but I don't feel like initiating contact on a day which epitomizes men supplicating to women.
I'm not nearly experienced enough to read how this seduction is likely to go. I'm especially not used to girls anywhere near as outwardly shy as her. But she's been fairly receptive. I wonder, is she going to go into "good girl" mode and put up monstrous LMR, or is she a freak waiting to be unleashed? Hmmmm...
