Sitting escalation to kiss

[LovelyDesires]

1) Sit beside her
2) Ask her how long her nails are. Play with her hand, nails
3) Play with her hair, ask her how long it grows. Put arm around shoulder
4) Leaning in with head slightly
5) Slow down conversation. With arm around shoulder, pulls in for kiss.
6) She moves her head away.
7) I pull back for a moment, breaking eye contact, with hand still on her shoulder.
8) Pull her in again. Rejected again.
Didnt react verbally to her rejections. But may have given my feelings away non verbally.

Whats the best way to touch her (Putting arm around her/Asking her to sit closer), to set up for a kiss? (assuming that both u and her are inexperienced)

 

[Howell]

1) Sit beside her
2) Ask her how long her nails are. Play with her hand, nails
3) Play with her hair, ask her how long it grows. Put arm around shoulder
4) Leaning in with head slightly
5) Slow down conversation. With arm around shoulder, pulls in for kiss.
6) She moves her head away.
7) I pull back for a moment, breaking eye contact, with hand still on her shoulder.
8) Pull her in again. Rejected again.
Didnt react verbally to her rejections. But may have given my feelings away non verbally.

Whats the best way to touch her (Putting arm around her/Asking her to sit closer), to set up for a kiss? (assuming that both u and her are inexperienced)

The story begins before this, I think. Unless you're in an orgiastic environment -- like Marti Gras or a rambunctious house party or something -- you're going to have a hard time usually going in for the kiss when the girl has this low level of investment. You need to get her investing in you more before it makes sense to go in for a kiss.

As for technique, the manhandle kiss is the most powerful type of kiss (https://www.girlschase.com/content/manhandle-kisses) but if you're not building up her emotional state and intrigue in you, it's probably best to focus on that first.

Howell

 

[LovelyDesires]

I like to clarify, it was on a date, around 10 mins after having lunch together, bringing her to a comfortable bench. What do u mean by high levels of investment anyway?

 

[Howell]

I like to clarify, it was on a date, around 10 mins after having lunch together, bringing her to a comfortable bench. What do u mean by high levels of investment anyway?

Gotcha.

When I said "you're going to have a hard time usually going in for the kiss when the girl has this low level of investment. You need to get her investing in you more before it makes sense to go in for a kiss." I'm primarily talking about compliance. Basically, you get her doing small things for you and build them up into bigger things. This is a key component in making girls chase. Instead of taking bigger leaps from one emotion or activity, you use emotional cresting and steadily build things up, so when you do go for mid to high level investment things like kissing, it's not such an emotional/logistical/logical leap for her, and thus you're more likely to get a positive or even lustfully exuberant reception.

When a girl turns her head away like that, it usually means you haven't gotten her comfortable and built up compliance to the point where she feels herself along for your ride and wholly trusting your lead. It's too sudden and unexpected. I don't know about your situation exactly, but the case might be that she simply wasn't at ease or sexually turned on at this point.

The remedy for this is a tighter escalation process. In particular, an emphasis on what is sometimes called "kino" (your process of physical escalation) might be something that could be useful to further investigate.

Think of it terms of how you wield tension. You build it up, then you relax it a bit, then you build it up even more, relax a tiny bit, then keep going up, etc.

Here are some relevant articles from the main site. If you haven't read them already, that I think they may help you identify some areas to work on:

https://www.girlschase.com/content/book- ... hing-women

https://www.girlschase.com/content/take- ... escalation

https://www.girlschase.com/content/manhandle-kisses

https://www.girlschase.com/content/book- ... xual-touch

Howell

P.S. It might even be a good idea to abstain from kissing until you are at a place where you can bed her, as otherwise things will drop off usually afterwards and you're actually less likely to sleep together, which also hurts your chances if you're going for a boyfriend role, regardless.

P.P.S. And some girls have "rules" for stuff like kissing on a first date. So if you can avoid triggering their cached conventional defenses, you're gonna be better off. Running the same type of games as most blokes will make girls think you're like most blokes, and hold you to the same standards as most blokes. Better to do things a bit differently, IMO.