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So tired of always getting the innocent and sweet girlfriend, help :(

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In all of my years of dating girls I have always dated the cute girl next door who is supposed to be girlfriend material but these relationships have become so boring it is frustrating. What is even more fucked up is that these girls were all cute and above average looking but I just don't want that anymore. It sounds so messed up, I know it does, but I want that girl that can put me through the roller coaster. The kind of girl who I am more likely to find at a party on weekends rather than staying in on weekends. Right now I would rather date and marry a pornstar over the girl who is likely to be a college professor.

Part of it I think is because I have a lot of life experiences to talk about that draw some girls in but I don't know how to be the guy who gets the girls you are likely to find at parties on weekends. It is like these girls are in a completely different world than I am but there are some shortcomings I have. For one I cannot deal with the sound of really loud music especially some songs that are dumb as shit. I am willing to sacrifice that but what does it take to get these kinds of girls?
 

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You need to entrench yourself in sexiness. Model yourself after TV stars like Damon Salvatore (Ian Somerhalder) or Robert Downey Jr. (I use these guys as models for pretty much all of my advice). Learn the ins and outs of fashion, get in really good shape, go through a phase where you're a complete dick (and eventually calm it down to "charming asshole") and get really good at fucking.

I've been going at this hard naturally for two years, and 5 months with Girls Chase stuff. I'm still not there, but I've finally seeing very strong results. You WILL get shit on a lot, people WILL despise you and resent you for becoming something they're afraid of trying to become, but you WILL see results.

What you need to do now

1. For a solid hour, meditate on what you want and why you want it. Then start breaking your overall goal into small achievable goals (try to work on 3 month intervals, or something long but not too long. Every few months, cross something off of your list)

2. Cut out unnecessary habits to make time for others. Limit TV, video games, etc. Begin listening to pop and electronic music. Understand mainstream culture without becoming assimilated by it.

3. Begin going out to bars and clubs. I seriously suggest you start off this new journey without alcohol. Try and limit yourself to a few drinks a night, and then just get water and put a garnish on it (lemon, lime, etc).

4. Get ready for rejection, but learn to enjoy it. See it as a battle wound. Make it fun.

5. Read the articles on the sites, and on the boards, FRs and LRs. They are by far the most enlightening part of the boards.

Do all of this and strive diligently, and you can start pulling those "bitches" that dominate bars and clubs. Chase explains in articles that it's not that they're callous or narcissistic (though they do have tendencies), it's just that they know they're hot and have socially calibrated themselves enough that they only let high quality men into their life.

Become that man and remember not to chase. These girls will be challenges and at points I guarantee you'll want that cue girl next door back, but you will probably get bored of them again once you become this new man.


May you become powerful beyond measure,

Anatman
 

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"Things always look brighter on the other side of the fence. The funny thing is, the people on the other side are looking right back at you thinking and wishing for the same thing." There are good perks and bad perks no matter what. If you desire to experience the rollercoaster of emotions than go for it. I'm just saying that you should keep this quote in mind.
- The Wise Fool
 
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I posted a similar thread to this that did not get many responses. Anatman says names of Hollywood stars but they are all White guys. What advice do you give you guys from less advantaged ethnic backgrounds for seduction? (brown male here)

Like I have found that I do alright with White girls who have friends of all races, are liberal, and educated tend to respond well to me. Unfortunately the ones OP is talking about act like I don't exist and some have been proactively rude to me to let me know they are not interested. This has made me stop going to parties and spend more time analyzing the fuck outta my situation. It seems like for girls like these, my ethnic background is all they need to disqualify me.
 

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Honestly man,

I feel like you are dropping down to a lower tier going for the girls who won't date a guy simply because of his race.... to be honest, you are going after them because it is this internal block in your head that you want to get rid of by proving to yourself that "it is possible" to "obtain" such a woman that you describe.

When they reject you or act rude, do you let their reaction to you stop you from continuing to try or do you keep going? Do you try everything you can, burn the house to the ground in order that you walk away knowing "I did everything I possibly could." That you could walk away with peace of mind and triumph in the fact that you gave it your best effort. I know that is easier said than done because I didn't try my hardest yesterday... but you get the idea no? Read up on reactions vs results. A girl might be acting rude and aloof towards you a majority of the time if not THE WHOLE time, but if she gives you her number, goes on a date with you, comes home with you, and sleeps with you then you got what you wanted, despite the catch wrestling with you the whole way. Reminds me of that book, "Old Man and The Sea" by Ernest Hemingway. Great book.

You gotta keep going man. Let go and keep going. VISION - Motivational Video, watch it. It's not about what is happening right then and there but what happens in the future. IMAGINE IT and then EMBODY IT!!!!! Does the you in the reality where typical american white women fall left and right for give up as soon as she gives him a look of "as if"? Hell no, he keeps laughing at her and playing along and pushing and pushing for the close in an efficient and graceful manner. Rude comments and nonverbal language hit him then fall down to the side because he thinks, "I'm used to it. 2-3 hours from now your gonna be in my bed saying, 'I've never been with a man like you before!'" That sounds awesome and completely different from the guy I am talking to right now. He understands the reasons why she behaves the way such women do, but he says, "Whatever, I can't change it but I'm gonna work around it." If you are walking down the road and a tree is in your way, do you keep walking forward or do you walk around? It is the same as I said earlier, you need to figure out your strategy. Read more articles, understand them and practice. Get your fundamentals down: looks, voice, posture, movement, and eye contact down first before moving on to how to talk to people and manipulate and persuade them to do whatever you want. Yes I said manipulate.... when you begin to figure things out, all the greys disappear and all you see is black and white, chess pieces on the board, a gigantic fucking board of switches that you turn on and off to make people go here or there, do this or that, jump through this hoop, now sit, die for me on the field of battle.

I think the part I empathize with the most is this, "spend more time analyzing the fuck outta my situation." I remember for about a year and a half I spent so many nights staring up into the darkness of my room, thinking, what more could I have done? where did I mess up? Tell me tell me tell me!!!!!" And one day.... I realized that I just needed to let go and change. I started running and working out, changed my wardrobe, changed my behavior, my personality, did shit that I never thought I would ever do in my life, and you know what happened? The girls who didn't give me the time of day started going out of there way to make me want them. The girl who put me through that hell wanted me to but I just didn't care anymore, I didn't want her because I didn't need her anymore. I used to think, "I can have anyone but I just want you." You are a fisherman and you can have any fish in the sea but you only want one and it is right by your hook but doesn't want your bait. Oh well, too bad, fuck me I can't do anything about it. You need to let go man. Your brain is holding on to these beliefs and limitations, you continue to reaffirm them unconsciously whenever you mention it.

some have been proactively rude to me to let me know they are not interested.
Instead of thinking it is your race, maybe they are being rude because they are scared you are going to hurt them because you are too good for them? Idk... I don't party anymore because those girls aren't worth it imo (there are the few gems but it is rare).

I'm saying a lot of things that need to be done, but I am in the same boat as you in the sense that I am still wading in the water when I want to get into the ocean. I get all courageous and excited to test things but then little thoughts pop up and I feed them. I see it and I cut them off now. And, even if it is simply building up the courage to walk up to being about a foot or two feet away, that is pretty damn good for me. Almost there but not quite. Just keep trying man. Just keep trying. There is no solution except putting in the work. I get it man. You want the answer, but I can tell you now that the answer isn't going to make you happy, it's actually finding it out for yourself that will. Trust me, I know.

I don't know what else to tell you man :/ Best thing I can do is suggest that you read "Unlimited Power" by Tony Robbins. Just read and learn and practice and upgrade and excel and just keep going. Failure isn't bad, it is good. You need to fail to know what works and what doesn't work. You need to fail in order to appreciate the times that you succeed. As long as you are gaining ground you are one step closer to where you want to be.

I want to keep throwing more things to make you believe but as I said in another post, the battle is internal. The only one who can help you is you. Envision your success, make a plan to get there, act out the steps to get there, and do it every single moment you can. You just need to choose to do so.
- The Wise Fool

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