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Some harsh advice and wisdom to all younger guys (< 25) on this forum.

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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Due to the threads I have seen popping up, I wanted to make this post.

Not that long ago, I passed the quarter-life crisis age and hit the latter half of my twenties. I feel like in the past few years of joining GC, I have changed more than at any other time period in my entire life, especially in regards to women. I used to be just like you and I know the worries that consume your head at this very moment, in fact, I was probably thinking the same things you think right now years ago. So for all of you in college, maybe even high school, and just hitting the working world, here is some wisdom from a guy not that much older than you.

You're depressed, angry, miserable, and nervous due to not living a life that 98% of men your age fail to live.

The party life that so many people hype up and show as the norm is lived by probably less than 5% of men your age if even that. I am talking either a star athlete or a well respected member of a top tier fraternity. What you are aspiring for and depressed for not having is being lived by a guy who is either supremely talented at a sport to make the school money or comes from a family where he can fuck around and still come out just fine. For most men your age, life is just starting and becoming a time to build. So quit being depressed over not living like a Chad, Thad, and recent Fad, unless you have rich parents and were set up for success before entering college, it is a hard life to live.

Stop treating high school or even college as your journey to get a lot of pussy, treat it as a chance to develop yourself, have fun experiences, go to fun events, and make a lot of friends. It's okay if you barely get laid or get laid at all during this phase.

"Like oh mer god dude, you'll never be around so many single women not in a relationship bruh!"

"Like it's your last chance bro, you'll never have so many single women around, it's college breh, they're away from homes and ready to fuck breh!"


At one point in college, I was that creepy PUA and it undoubtedly paid off if you read my earlier lay reports on this forum. Even after all that, my biggest regret was not getting laid enough, it was not investing time in making good friends, enjoying good social experiences, and forming good connections. I went to a very snotty school full of stuckup and elitist people, in some ways I had an excuse for a lackluster social life, but even then I am glad I at least made some friends.

College should not be for getting your dick into as many women as possible, that's how so many false rape accusations happen, instead it should be for having some memorable experiences, making good friends, doing fun shit, and having sex happen naturally.

College is a development journey for you to:

1. Get in the gym more to get a nice body.

2. Go join social groups and clubs to make a good friend here and there (does not have to be a fraternity).

3. Network and make connections so you get a nice job setup afterward.

4. Maybe study abroad or travel to different countries for a class.

Just approach when you really feel about it, who cares, don't be sleazy about it and things will be okay.

My biggest regret in college was overthinking cliques and not approaching enough girls. You should be indirect and not some creepy PUA type but approach and talk to girls you find hot. If you are respectful and alpha about it, it is not going to be a big deal. Tons of college girls love meeting cool guys even if they are not a part of their clique. Even the hottest sorority will have girls who are just done with it all and are waiting for a cool guy to come up to them and talk to them as opposed to the try hard frat guys they are around.

Even if you fail and fuckup, you'll be out of there. None of this will really fucking matter.

"But I am going to a commuter school and social life sucks here, no opportunities"

If you are an American going to a commuter school, there are some things that stick out to me:

1. Your grades were probably not top tier in high school and your test scores sucked.

2. You were not very strategic in choosing colleges and put it off, now you're paying the price.

3. Money is an issue and you are going to a commuter campus to save money.

Look, pussy should be the least of your priorities right now. Your top priority should be to get your ducks in a row and get shit tying you down handled before you get in a game journey. I have had friends who went to a commuter campus, it is definitely not the way to go. You can do things like maybe join a group on campus with others like you or take a class which has a younger crowd but overall? It is a depressing experience. Get this fixed first before doing anything else. Get a job in a fun area if you can (nightlife, service industry, etc.).

Yeah definitely get a job!

Ideally, try to go for something at a bar and work your way up from there. It does not even have to be at a bar, get a job in general. A job will teach you critical life skills and teach you how to best interact with people. You will be held accountable and your mind will be too busy to be frustrated or fantasize. Try to get a job at places that hire a lot of college kids, it will do wonders for your resume. If you have the free time to whine on here then you do not have a job or just have too much free time, that free time needs to either be used for a job or for a business. Invest it wisely.

Media, society, your parents, and mainstream culture are lying to you and they are pretty damn good at it too.

"Oh mer gawd, college, best fer yerz of yer life! Babes! Alcohol! Parties!"

The truth is, everyone has an agenda, including colleges who need you to pay up the bucks. As a matter of fact, it is easier to sell sex than it is to sell education. So don't buy too much into the college hype and everyone listing out the 100+ reasons college is good for dating, sex, meeting women, and social life. While college does have its benefits, they are not enough for you be depressed over.

You can meet a ton of sexy women after college, in fact, you won't even have to deal with the BS about social politics and Greek Life because women just want hot guys now.

You can go to a ton of amazing parties after college, in fact, you'll just have to pay instead of being in a dumb clique.

You can make a lot of cool friends after college, you'll just have to be a cool dude yourself.

All this shit mainstream society tells you about college being a Holy Grail are used to get you to pay to go to college, maybe even pay to stay an extra year, and get you to cough up some cash.

Youth, young age, and all of this is hyped up and commercialized because men your age are gullible and will believe what they are told.

Life after school is not a boring depressing shitshow like they want you to believe.

If you are some khaki wearing dadbod having depressed pessimistic guy who bought a house in the suburbs with his manatee of a wife who popped out 3 ugly kids, yeah, life is depressing and boring, even that is debatable because maybe some guys just want that.

Truth is, life is full of opportunities at all ages. Partying and casual sex don't just stop because you got a diploma. Hot women don't just turn into dust after college or all magically get rings on their finger.

If you listened to miserable failures who no longer have a social circle to rely on, yeah sure, that is the reality. Listen to winners in life like @Franco @Chase @naturalmikey @Grand Pooba @Velasco @Hue and you might get places.

How you handle this brutal time will set the trajectory for your future in a big way.

Use it to build skills and socialize? Pays off

Use it to make friends? Pays off

Use it to work on your craft? Pays off

Use it to keep whining? Lost time

Use it to whine and depressed of the future? Lost time

So you are the captain of your own ship here.
 

naturalmikey

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if the grass is always greener on the other side maybe it’s time to start watering your own lawn. there are some valid excuses. like being 5’2 with a huge scar down your face. okay that guys fucked. but being 23, although it will be more dificult, is a great time to learn and create a foundation to build upon as you reach your prime years (for most non-chads 28-38). you’ve got a long prime as a man. i’m kinda bummed i didn’t find pickup until the tail end of mine. but i didn’t let that get me down. i went out multiple times a week as a 34 year old man in clubs full of twenty something getting rejected left and right for the better part of a year. so getting started isn’t easy at any age.

the weirdest part of my pickup journey was the first girl i cold approached after i started watching rsd videos was a 23 year old hot ass russian chick at the north ridge mall. i fingered her on this little train for children that drove through the mall. then it was a year of failure. but that one experience made me see how easy it could be. @Shake&Bake you had a similar positive experience. although that seems like an anomaly at this point in your life keep your head up and it could become a reality.
 

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if the grass is always greener on the other side maybe it’s time to start watering your own lawn. there are some valid excuses. like being 5’2 with a huge scar down your face. okay that guys fucked. but being 23, although it will be more dificult, is a great time to learn and create a foundation to build upon as you reach your prime years (for most non-chads 28-38). you’ve got a long prime as a man. i’m kinda bummed i didn’t find pickup until the tail end of mine. but i didn’t let that get me down. i went out multiple times a week as a 34 year old man in clubs full of twenty something getting rejected left and right for the better part of a year. so getting started isn’t easy at any age.

the weirdest part of my pickup journey was the first girl i cold approached after i started watching rsd videos was a 23 year old hot ass russian chick at the north ridge mall. i fingered her on this little train for children that drove through the mall. then it was a year of failure. but that one experience made me see how easy it could be. @Shake&Bake you had a similar positive experience. although that seems like an anomaly at this point in your life keep your head up and it could become a reality.

All I can say is thank god for Russian women, they are god's gift to earth!
 

Shake&Bake

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if the grass is always greener on the other side maybe it’s time to start watering your own lawn. there are some valid excuses. like being 5’2 with a huge scar down your face. okay that guys fucked. but being 23, although it will be more dificult, is a great time to learn and create a foundation to build upon as you reach your prime years (for most non-chads 28-38). you’ve got a long prime as a man. i’m kinda bummed i didn’t find pickup until the tail end of mine. but i didn’t let that get me down. i went out multiple times a week as a 34 year old man in clubs full of twenty something getting rejected left and right for the better part of a year. so getting started isn’t easy at any age.

the weirdest part of my pickup journey was the first girl i cold approached after i started watching rsd videos was a 23 year old hot ass russian chick at the north ridge mall. i fingered her on this little train for children that drove through the mall. then it was a year of failure. but that one experience made me see how easy it could be. @Shake&Bake you had a similar positive experience. although that seems like an anomaly at this point in your life keep your head up and it could become a reality.
I got that one lay at the theater out of sheer luck. That one experience didn't really motivate me for approaching more....I'm just horny all the time. And that's why I usually kept approaching. But it's so tedious now that I'm like what's the fucking point in all this bullshit? It's me just dragging my already low self esteem through the mud
 

naturalmikey

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I got that one lay at the theater out of sheer luck. That one experience didn't really motivate me for approaching more....I'm just horny all the time. And that's why I usually kept approaching. But it's so tedious now that I'm like what's the fucking point in all this bullshit? It's me just dragging my already low self esteem through the mud
take a break. spend the next six months going to the gym and working hard saving money so you can get your own place. having your own place and a sick body will give you the self confidence to give it another shot. do you wanna be like this the rest of your life. what’s a six month investment to your future? you’re already not getting laid. so put that shit on the back burner. chicks aren’t going anywhere.
 

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if the grass is always greener on the other side maybe it’s time to start watering your own lawn. there are some valid excuses. like being 5’2 with a huge scar down your face. okay that guys fucked. but being 23, although it will be more dificult, is a great time to learn and create a foundation to build upon as you reach your prime years (for most non-chads 28-38). you’ve got a long prime as a man. i’m kinda bummed i didn’t find pickup until the tail end of mine. but i didn’t let that get me down. i went out multiple times a week as a 34 year old man in clubs full of twenty something getting rejected left and right for the better part of a year. so getting started isn’t easy at any age.

the weirdest part of my pickup journey was the first girl i cold approached after i started watching rsd videos was a 23 year old hot ass russian chick at the north ridge mall. i fingered her on this little train for children that drove through the mall. then it was a year of failure. but that one experience made me see how easy it could be. @Shake&Bake you had a similar positive experience. although that seems like an anomaly at this point in your life keep your head up and it could become a reality.
I don’t think it had to do with you being 34 when you were having tough times with women, you just probably rusty. I think it’s totally normal to be 30+ in a club of 20 something year olds. Shit, I see dudes late 40s and 50s still in clubs or bars trying to get girls.
 
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