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Marty

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Whereas before I began approaching, women used to simply ignore me (when I passed them in the street for instance), these days beautiful girls often positively avoid my gaze or give off intentional signals that they don't want to be opened. Almost as if they are trying to actively deter me from approaching.

Has anyone experienced something similar? It's very off-putting; is there any way of getting rid of it?
 

Mr.Rob

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Like you're interpreting a signal that may not mean anything nor meant to communicate anything to YOU in particular. Though you interpret it as directed towards you. Then once this has happened a couple times in a row and you now believe that this nonverbal communication is directed towards you (to not approach) you start expecting it and looking for it.

Therefore now your expecting these nonverbal signals and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

Besides have you approached these girls?

I've approached women with disgustful looks on their face only to have them be very warm upon opening.
 

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Marty said:
Whereas before I began approaching, women used to simply ignore me (when I passed them in the street for instance), these days beautiful girls often positively avoid my gaze or give off intentional signals that they don't want to be opened. Almost as if they are trying to actively deter me from approaching.

Has anyone experienced something similar? It's very off-putting; is there any way of getting rid of it?

My guess is to reassess your 1. fundamentals and 2. state of mind/confidence.

Though you seem like a confident fellow :)
 

Chase

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Marty said:
Whereas before I began approaching, women used to simply ignore me (when I passed them in the street for instance), these days beautiful girls often positively avoid my gaze or give off intentional signals that they don't want to be opened. Almost as if they are trying to actively deter me from approaching.

Has anyone experienced something similar? It's very off-putting; is there any way of getting rid of it?

My guess would be that before you didn't give women much eye contact, but now you're making lots of frequent eye contact? That's pretty normal if so. Women will tend to avert their eyes from your gaze unless they are STRONGLY attracted to you and flirting very hard. If you want girls trying to catch your eye, you have to walk around not making eye contact and wait for them to try to get you to look at them.

Conversely, if you walk around throwing eyes at every cute girl in sight, the ones who like you will look away because they don't want to get caught staring by you and look desperate, while the ones who don't want you approaching them will say, "Oh, crap - this guy's on the prowl. I'd better signal him to not approach," and start giving signs that you should definitely not come say hi.

If you don't want those negative signals, it's better to do more slow scanning without eye contact and only make eye contact with the girls looking in your direction. You'll get a lot more warm breaks and flirts and far fewer of the "don't talk to me" breaks, generally only from women accidentally looking in your direction... most of the ones looking over will be trying to catch your eye, and will act shy or flirty when they do. Doing it this way can get you jazzed about approaching pretty fast, instead of marching around gazing at women and getting nonverbal "don't talk to me" signs left and right, which can really rain on your parade.

Chase
 
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