South Asian men.

[DilushaMC]

First of all I'd like to thank everybody who replied to my first topic. And here's my second one. I'm a south asian man, or more specifically a Sri lankan. So here's my question. Just like western males, would a south asian male be able to be equally successful with Western women? In the article about American girls, Colt mentioned American girls prefer foreign beaus over Local men. But he only mentioned about European/South American males. So would it be the same with South Asian guys like me? Not only with American girls, but generally with all white women. I hope you guys can help me. Because, I'm planning to travel Australia for my higher studies, before I move to US for my HOLLYWOOD Destiny! Where I'd meet millions of white chicks. So your advise here would be immensely helpful for my journey, guys.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Australia is actually a very rough place to be if you happen to look South Asian, from many people I have heard the women there tend to exclusively prefer white men and a lot of the Lebanese there are not even let into the clubs.

As for being South Asian in general, the culture itself is very restrictive and allows men little to no freedom to express themselves. Arranged marriages are a common practice and most South Asian parents push their kids to do well in school academically as opposed to focusing on social life and sports. As a result of all this, most South Asian (and Asian guys in general) tend to struggle with the opposite sex here in the west because they didn't learn a lot of the social skills, game, or put much effort into their looks growing up. The Asians that come to the US are typically the more studious and educated type who are here to better their education so they can earn better jobs, simply put, they are "nerds" and no one in America society likes nerds.

So yes, it is an uphill battle for you in terms of doing well with white women. As an indian guy myself, I have managed to do well with girls that are white and am currently dating a blonde that is attractive. I have never felt at a disadvantage compared to my white friends and there are only a few guys I know that do better with women than me. The fact that I work hard to improve myself and look my best makes me stand out because most Indian guys do not put much effort into their appearance and style. My advice to you, if you are an indian guy that wants to do well with White girls then:

1. Work out. Don't do as much cardio but lift and make sure you are watching your nutrition carefully, that Indian food is doing damage because of the amount of carbs it has in it.

2. Dress trendy, do not wear oversized clothes and make sure you are wearing clothes that fit. If you are at a college campus then do not overdress because then you will come off as a try hard.

3. Make friends with different races, don't keep yourself confined to Indian social circles.

4. If you have an accent then lose it because indian accents are not attractive.

 

[DilushaMC]

Thank you for the reply Kenshin. But I'm Sri Lankan, not an Indian. If you're Indian, then you know a lot about us. Don't you? Are you light skinned or dark skinned as an Indian? I'm bit dark as a Sri lankan. IMO if we are physically hotter, sexier then it will help a lot to be successful with white women. Isn't it?

 

[PrettyDecent]

Australia is actually a very rough place to be if you happen to look South Asian, from many people I have heard the women there tend to exclusively prefer white men and a lot of the Lebanese there are not even let into the clubs.

Hmm..interesting. I haven't seen a whole lot of cleaning up from Sri Lankan or Indian fellas over here in Australia, but many men from this culture are shy/quiet (though quite stylishly-dressed!). I am Lebanese though, and I've never had a problem getting into clubs .

I'm guessing you heard more about Sydney than Melbourne? I'd recommend Melbourne any day .

~Nick

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I am light skinned like many of the big named actors over in Bollywood, it has helped me out quite a lot because it gives me that exotic look. The fact that the average indian guy looks like he has never been to the gym before, is geeky, and has no sense of style helps me out even more because I stick out like a sore thumb. Indian guys in the US have no idea how good they have it because they can pull the exotic card if they look good. Can't do the same thing in Canada, UK, or Australia since there are tons of Indian FOBs there.

All I know about Australia is that many women there have the "no indians and asians" description on their online dating profiles.

 

[DilushaMC]

I am light skinned like many of the big named actors over in Bollywood, it has helped me out quite a lot because it gives me that exotic look. The fact that the average indian guy looks like he has never been to the gym before, is geeky, and has no sense of style helps me out even more because I stick out like a sore thumb. Indian guys in the US have no idea how good they have it because they can pull the exotic card if they look good. Can't do the same thing in Canada, UK, or Australia since there are tons of Indian FOBs there.

All I know about Australia is that many women there have the "no indians and asians" description on their online dating profiles.

Yeah, I'm bit dark. This is so unfair. Nobody will write an article on this matter as GC community is dominated by western men, including authors.

 

[DilushaMC]

Nobody is helping me on this.

 

[Franco]

Dilusha,

I don't think we have many experienced members who are from (or have been to) Australia, so I'm not sure there's much advice to be given. That being said, Kenshin gave you a good answer for how it is in the United States; if you work on making yourself look good and take care of your fundamentals first and foremost, you'll be able to succeed here. Don't be the "stereotypical" Middle Eastern guy who doesn't take care of his looks, doesn't socialize, and doesn't improve himself to become a man that Western (or white) women are attracted to.

I can't imagine that Australia would be very different from the US; I would work on your fundamentals and see where things take you from there.

- Franco

 

[DilushaMC]

Dilusha,

I don't think we have many experienced members who are from (or have been to) Australia, so I'm not sure there's much advice to be given. That being said, Kenshin gave you a good answer for how it is in the United States; if you work on making yourself look good and take care of your fundamentals first and foremost, you'll be able to succeed here. Don't be the "stereotypical" Middle Eastern guy who doesn't take care of his looks, doesn't socialize, and doesn't improve himself to become a man that Western (or white) women are attracted to.

I can't imagine that Australia would be very different from the US; I would work on your fundamentals and see where things take you from there.

- Franco

Thanks for the reply Franco. And I read Chase's latest article
That was like an article made for me. That really helped me a lot.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Franco I do caution you that location for men of color is almost everything, especially south asian men. As an indian guy, you will never see me going after white girls in London or Australia simply because there are many barriers there I would have to overcome. One priceless piece of advice I would give to every indian guy is, go to areas where there are not that many indians. You can almost guarantee that areas in the west that have lots of indians in them are usually not that good for indian guys looking to go interracial simply because white women in those have had to see the worst that the culture has to offer.

Also, Indians and Arabs are in no ways the same people!

 

[DilushaMC]

Franco I do caution you that location for men of color is almost everything, especially south asian men. As an indian guy, you will never see me going after white girls in London or Australia simply because there are many barriers there I would have to overcome. One priceless piece of advice I would give to every indian guy is, go to areas where there are not that many indians. You can almost guarantee that areas in the west that have lots of indians in them are usually not that good for indian guys looking to go interracial simply because white women in those have had to see the worst that the culture has to offer.

Also, Indians and Arabs are in no ways the same people!

I believe that's only for the stereotypical South Asians.

 

[Smith]

I was in sydney a few weeks ago. Before I board my plane to sydney, I met a French girl who's been to Australia and told me it is a very racist country, and worse in small towns. After I heard this, I was like "fuck...did I choose the wrong country to go on a holiday?"

It was the last thing I needed to hear, but after I got there and started to meet girls, I didn't meet any girls who act racist and blew me out.
Maybe they were polite and didn't say it. But my point is, you'll never know if a girl doesn't like u because of ur race (unless she says it). Otherwise it's all in your head and it's up to u on how u wanna interpret it. So stop the negative self-talk. And even if u do meet a girl who's racist, why would u want someone so close-minded anyway? U just effectively screened her out.

There's a lot of things u can work on to increase your chance with any type of girls, and removing any accent would probably be the hardest to work on and takes a bit of time, but if u got it down, you're pretty much sweet.

Since I was only there for a week (but had an amazing time there), it still wouldn't be an accurate picture of what it's really like there. Also keep in mind that I met more international people than the locals, so it's actually not that bad.

I'm guessing you heard more about Sydney than Melbourne? I'd recommend Melbourne any day .

I've also heard good things about melbourne when I was in sydney So I'm intrigued. Might go there next time.

- Smith

 

[DilushaMC]

Thanks for the reply Smith. That French girl must have been rejected by Aussie men. Was she hot? Anyway I'm not thinking in that way now. Specially after reading Chase's article. As you were talking about accents, I trained myself with lot of accents. For an example, Brando's and Connery's are my favourite accents. But my question is, when speaking in such accents, would it sound unnatural for a South Asian? I've got little doubt in that.

 

[Smith]

that French girl must have been rejected by Aussie men. Was she hot?

her bf is australian lol but yea she was cute

But my question is, when speaking in such accents, would it sound unnatural for a South Asian? I've got little doubt in that.

so that would be american accent with a deep slow voice yea? Plenty of foreign people, asians included, talk like that. It'll only feel unnatural to u at first, so it'll take a while to get use to it and not fall back to your original accent.

 

[uForia]

Here's a good (imo) Pakistani man that you can perhaps look to as a role model. If you wish, you can watch the entire miniseries called "traffik" on Youtube, and it's about the drug trade between Europe and Pakistan (And Afghanistan). Of course I don't know the sexual market in Australia but I assume that you may want to go a bit more casual than the drug lord (Who is the South Asian man you may want to incorporate) in this miniseries.

Anyhow here are some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFZDlqYgwqA
Skip to 20:28 to see body pose and how he talks to the other dealer. Note how he maintains his frame on how he will still trade in Germany even if the other guy is *trying* persuade him to trade in Spain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8kY-XZ_RSw
SKip to 30:38 to see an example dialogue (Albeit not sexual) between the drug lord and the woman drug dealer from Germany that was forced to come (You will know if you watch the entire miniseries, it's good!). I like 31:17 when the woman says "Try me." and he just stares at her rather comically while opening the heroin box. Of course, you may want to be less intimidating than this man but he is very good at keeping respect and maintaining his frame.

Maybe other users can comment on him as well. Pick up some things that I never even thought about perhaps.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I am struggling with this as well and a lot of me thinks it is because of my race. For some reason I don't see too many south asian or arab guys with white girls in my area and I don't know of any place where it would be common. That said, I did recently hear of a guy named Vikram Chatwal who people say slept with Lindsay Lohan and even dated an American model so I guess there is hope if you are a millionaire with some fame, unfortunately most of us will not reach that level.

It is interesting to see the story that Kenshin posted, maybe I need to get out of the east coast and move out west because Franco has been suggesting that too.

 

[DilushaMC]

I am struggling with this as well and a lot of me thinks it is because of my race. For some reason I don't see too many south asian or arab guys with white girls in my area and I don't know of any place where it would be common. That said, I did recently hear of a guy named Vikram Chatwal who people say slept with Lindsay Lohan and even dated an American model so I guess there is hope if you are a millionaire with some fame, unfortunately most of us will not reach that level.

It is interesting to see the story that Kenshin posted, maybe I need to get out of the east coast and move out west because Franco has been suggesting that too.

You don't wanna move to West. Just stop being the stereotype. That would be enough.