Starting from Scratch Journal

[Edd--19]

Attainability, Attainability, Attainability. Want to know what I've been missing? I think you know.

It explains so much of what I've been stuck on for the last few months. I had 2 dates this weekend; one was an insta-date, the other arranged. The insta-date girl was fucking gorgeous, and really into me at the start and then I dropped it all within a few minutes because I could have kissed her immediately but second-guessed the situation. The arranged date girl was an FR++ but I get the feeling tht she didn't feel like I was being genuine and was only using her for my needs and not caring about hers.

Since my confession I noted how all my interactions ended. First one were cause I bailed. I stopped doing that and then everything started to get better. My teasing skills have sky-rocketed. I can build attraction quite well. I was getting girls into me but they still didn't respond to me well all the time. Looking back I know they were attracted.

I feel so much better now.

 

[Edd--19]

Where do I begin...

You've probably noticed I've been gone a while from the forum... I had to take a break and just relax a little. You'd be surprised at the wonders it worked!!

I've looked up so much information on everything I could find that was relevant to me; so much information... overloading the brain. Of course I stumbled upon something, like always. It really changed the way I viewed game. You're probably noticing the trend in my posts, a few FR's followed by some philosophical bullshit on why I'm not succeeding... yada yada yada.

I started trying to enjoy myself... yeah, turns out I wasn't doing that. Can you believe that? I hope so, because it's fucked up really. All this time I spent trying to improve myself snapped back because I wanted it so badly I forgot to enjoy myself.

Ahh, makes me laugh...

I've changed a fair bit in a month... purposeful changing... hopefully you can tell in the way I'm typing, maybe not.

Ahh, you don't really care... But in a month I've progressed a lot and have another lay out of it.

It was rather easy, she was qualifying herself the entire time... I upped my sexy vibe, got her wet in the coffee-shop and bought her home. Now, don't get me wrong, it was easy because she obviously wanted sex and was doing everything she could to imply that we would hook up.

On some other fronts, I can do some pretty good approaches in bars now, more upbeat in general... I'm trying new shit too, you must think I'm crazy! Overall, I've just enjoyed myself more... Now I want to be sexy Talk soon.

 

[Edd--19]

Hahahaha, yes!!!!

I just had an awesome night... it's great!

I went to a bar with the aim of meeting 10 girls... New environment, not feeling up for it but pushed myself anyway. After realising that I'm not as good as I thought I was, and coming to the conclusion that I'm a hardcase, I'm trying to push myself.

I set off... it's about a half hour walk; I use it to build myself up, get me in a better mood, state, whatever floats your boat. Doesn't work, I don't care I enter the bar and start approaching... I meet two girls immediately and nothing comes from it. My openers flop, and I'm leeching the fun out of the conversations. My tonality is off... rapport building, terrible eye-contact, quiet voice and nervous in general. I get a drink and slowly build up to more approaches. They don't go anywhere... I'm not in a good state and trying to build myself up. Here and there I get into conversations with people but I'm more focused on my goal than having fun.

After some approaches I meet cool guys from different groups, get complimented on my jacket and with another guy get invited to join his group. The conversations start well but diminish again because I'm not in an upbeat state. I keep a smile on and laugh when I can, avoiding any loss of energy whilst trying to build it. Taking in any bit of feedback I can whilst not analysing it immediately and storing it for later. With these conversations I aske too many questions... didn't balance I's and you's, stern facial expressions when I was talking, very little hand and body movement... wouldn't be bad in a lower energy place but here it didn't fit in... at least the way I was doing it.

After 2 games of pool I excused myself to continue my endeavors of meeting girls. I meet several groups but fuck up, of course. I don't care about them individually. The experience is worth so much more! After feeling a little block, I push on. My rate has slowed but I don't let it stop me. As I meet some more girls I get into slightly longer conversations, 1 girl opens me... asks me what I'm doing. I reply truthfully saying "I have social anxiety and trying to get better" we have a short conversation. I turn it sexual but she doesn't want to stick around as I'm not as upbeat (read good at game) as she thought I'd be. I go back inside and as I go to the bar for another drink (I'm not even tipsy) a girl I met earlier opens me. She is very into me and I know it from my experience with day-game. I pull her in closer and try to kiss her but hesitate and she stops me immediately. She then wants to know a secret of mine. I pause, mind blank like a canvas, and delay things. I have good eye-contact, more energy, touching her (something I wasn't really doing throughout the night), I try and turn things sexual verbally but I crash and burn, my tonality is off as is my body language, imagine a statue.

As she presses me for a secret she offers to buy me a drink in exchange for a drink. More hesitation follows. She's still near me and then asks if I have a girlfriend. I respond maybe. Interaction dead.

She leaves believing I have one and is why I'm not progressing things, and I quote (because I love what she says next) "You're getting laid tonight, I'm not". Hahahahahahahahaha, bullshit. I laugh at how I fucked things up... I focused too much on what to say, logically, not on the emotions behind it. I was getting too wrapped up in how to move things on and my goal of getting with her instead of focusing on the moment at hand. I was stuck in my head most of the night, not enjoying the atmosphere and interactions... I always had some underlying intention that I was desperate to fulfill.

So many things learned about tonight. It was great!!!! I loved every moment of it. I got in a chase frame, tried physically escalating, broke through some barriers, kept going even when I didn't want to, approached different people, tried to have fun, I learned so much. I've got daygame tomorrow and shit loads of work. I'm loving improving myself!!!!

Catch you soon

 

[Edd--19]

I'm really tired, however I've learnt a few cool things today whilst day-gaming. Enjoy!

I set off for the mall around my usual time... I don't really care about being recognised, no one gives a shit really; it's all in the head. I left with a couple of goals, changing styles a little and trying canned material. It's worked for others why not me? And I have to try everything.

I was pretty sleepy walking in but managed to say hi to a few people I think... It's a bit of a blur. Anyway the first girl I go upto I'm nervous as fuck. I push through the AA and compliment eject. It's a good start; the ball is rolling.

The next two girls I approach I get a little further than the opening and tried some routines on them. The first girl I messed up the delivery, but I stuck to approaching and focused on the success. I used this to stoke my next approach but as I was using the lines I lost heart at the beginning of it and bailed on it. I was completely nervous, but I was tackling it one girl at a time. I made sure to focus on that and use each little bit of feedback to improve my next approach.

4th girl I met I lost completely. I raised my voice at the end of my opening and she didn't stop. I knew the mistake immediately and didn't repeat it throughout the rest of the day. Number 5 I approached with my hand in my pocket and was quite non-committal to the opening. I made note of this and went off to correct my mistakes.

Next girl, tried a routine but again got a little nervous and backed out at the start, it's a ballsy one I'm trying. 7, I realise I'm slowing down so I compliment eject to keep momentum and to relax me from the pressure a little. Number 8, I have no idea what I did wrong... maybe I could have persisted harder.

Finally, a live girl. I use one routine on her, yeah, she's feeling comfortable and a little attracted. We talk and it turns out she's flying to some country today... I focus on making a point on the plane instead of focusing on her journey. Talking about me, not her, and I'm floundering on it... Ah well. I try another routine to get some more attraction built but it bounces and shortly after she leaves. She wasn't a good prospect but great practice!

Next girl I didn't take enough initiative, I approached her and then let silence hang in the air instead of leading the interaction... She left.

This time I persisted with the girl but she still didn't stop... That's fine, just building up more experience. It's getting to be more fun, even though I'm dead tired.

There are a few more but I'm completely out of energy, I have them written down but they'll take up a couple more lines. Sorry guys. I'll type something up more detailed when I can think straight! Hope all your Halloween's were good!

 

[Edd--19]

2 FR's to write about today, one's about last night the other today.

Last Night:
I've been looking for some wings to hang out with, improve my social skills and learn some game off. I met 3 guys off PUA forums and pretty soon the group expanded to that of 7-8 guys. 5 of us met for the first time last night. Me being naturally shy was intimidated to talk to them... One of the guy's has been a coach, another two are pretty good intermediates, and then there was a guy who's just started gaming and is quite shy and reserved... a little like me. They're all cool guys and we hit a couple of bars.

It takes a while for me to start approaching anyone, I do get in a couple of girls to build momentum but my nerves got to me and the interactions died quickly. I kept lowering my chin and chest whilst talking and was all in my head.

I started off fairly negative and just being a plain energy suction cup... Not good, I caught myself and changed it around. I started to be positive and just enjoy the energy, the venue and the people I was with. Before I knew it I was approaching a fair few girls.

Mostly I got blown out immediately... Fundamentals dropped, I was trying to hard, acting needy. I wasn't caring though, my aim was to meet as many girls as possible and get used to night game. I slowly get into a couple of conversations as time passes. They last barely anything, but I'm proud of myself. I was enjoying myself more and more.

As time passes we leave the first venue and make our way to the next stop. We walk in and it's busy as fuck. We start meeting girls and mine don't respond to me... I'm definitely giving off some kind of vibe. I meet more and more people, trying different approaches, testing a few things that work. I get into brief conversations but the girls all go cold immediately... they turn away and do something else. I was enjoying myself but I guess something was wrong. A few things could have been: forcing rapport tonality, seeming needy, not being authentic, dropping my fundamentals (got better later though), not strong eye-contact, showing interest too soon (or too much too soon), nice guy smile. Anyway a number of things.

As the night progressed I got pushed into this cute girl and went in for a hug. She responded back to me and we danced for a little bit. I said I was going outside with a friend and she was trying to get me to stay with her. I couldn't really stay with her otherwise I'd give into her demands then, so I say I'll be back in two minutes... Didn't see her again. Oh well, but I did hook her, I know what to look for now. I watched the others a little bit and i'm certain I'm not hooking. Now I know for certain my sticking point I can take proactive steps to break through.

A little while later I approached a group with a wing. I open the small, black girl... with a little indian in her. She's wearing a plain black dress and wearing her dark hair down. The opener goes well and I'm in a conversation with her. It takes a few tries to get her name and I attempt a tease, it doesn't go too well but the conversation is still alive. We talk a little about the environment, and other not very interesting stuff but soon she's asking me questions. She isn't hooked, just being polite really. I deflect them a little but not very well and I get some information about her. Turns out she's from Toronto, I try and show pre-selection by saying my ex is studying there... she doesn't bite but then she asks my age. I do deflect this completely and joke a little with her. I think there was a test, she commented on my scarf and asked if I was gay... I wasn't so much thrown but it caught me by surprise. I agreed, and joked, fatal mistake. Now I feel like I'm showing much more interest in her than she is in me... and slowly I can see the little interest she had waining. I'm a fish out of water now, my wing has left his set and I can see this girl isn't interested in me. I try to hold it a little longer but bow out seeing that she isn't interested anymore. I guess my subcommunication was off, I was trying to hard to keep the conversation alive, showing too much interest in her, and too nice.

After that I met a few more girls but I bombed out pretty soon into the conversations... Trying to hard to make something happen. After them I decide that I'm tired and head home to get some rest.

Today:

After a slew of approaches yesterday I'm feeling really good about myself. So earlier I set off to town as usual. I wasn't expecting it to be too busy but enough to meet a few girls... I was wrong, Christmas shopping has started. A fair number of groups and a couple of solo's peppered here and there. I start off a little later than usual, but I build my momentum quickly. The first problem I had to sort out was I had a quiet voice, I patched that up and then I noticed my chin and chest dropping as I approached. I'm starting to think this makes me come off inauthentic, nervous and very interested right out of the cage.

I solve the issues and I'm starting to get into brief conversations, but this time people don't have long to talk. I get into a good conversation with a women a bit older than me... I try a new routine and it goes pretty well, I nearly forgot it but held it. My fundamentals stuck and I was coming off well. I didn't get her to hook and she left.

I meet another cute girl however almost immediately... about 5'5", brown hair and great sense of style. I got talking to her and the conversation flowed naturally, I didn't have strong eye contact and we stood far away from eachother, but I was holding her interest long enough. We talk about shopping and I make her laugh a bit and then she asks if American Apparel is down the road. I use this to get in close, touch her and point her. She stays, takes a step back, I let her and we resume our conversation. I use a routine on her and it makes her laugh, I trip up a little and she says she's got to get going. I tell her that we should go for coffee sometime and she agrees. I grab her number and keep talking to her... At which point she starts mentioning how she's really tidy and clean. I'm a little dumbfounded and say "that's cool" and leave the conversation. I didn't smile sexily, and I'm missing something, or have to get rid of this vibe I've got shadowing me.

I open a few more girls, one really hot girl, I compliment her, bad move and the conversation is dead before it even starts. Another girl was busy, don't know if it's true but I didn't persist. One girl I did pull of a sexy smile with I thought she was pretty pleased to see me, until she excused herself to use the bathroom... hahaha. Still I'm slowly sorting out a couple of issues. It's been a long time.

I did also manage to sleep with the girl I met last week when I slept with the lithuanian girl.. I didn't do it on the first date but managed it within 10 minutes of the second which was pretty fucking awesome! She seems to text me a lot.

Edd

 

[Edd--19]

I've had a pretty fun day today.

I didn't do too much day game today, I got in a little late and got stuck in my head longer than I should but I made up for it with some good progress.

I've started a little list on my phone about what I do well in approaches and things to try next time... I make sure they're targeted to either something I can do or am trying to learn; it depends on how much momentum I've got behind me.

The first girl I met was more an old woman, I asked her directions to costco making sure I held my fundamentals, I gave her a little sexy smile and held intense eye-contact... Oh yeah, she definitely wanted me, hahaha. I leave shortly after, warming up is pretty good.

Next girl I approach was pretty into my opener, held my fundamentals, sexy smile, a little intense eye-contact but I move to a routine, fumble the words and as I spoke the last line I was like "well this is completely fucked". It was fun to do, got a little more experience with the routine and good body language, no complaints here.

Next girl I opened was a lot taller than me, I'm not keen but she is hot and I can't pass up the opportunity. I was thinking I'd get rejected outright so I prepared to compliment eject, keep my social momentum up and not destroy my ego too early on (yes I was a little scared, that's here nor there... fine it is, but I'm not perfect). I opened her, I held all my fundamentals, sexy smile, not a lot of intense eye contact but apparently enough... She giggled and I was completely off guard. She stopped walking and faced me, but I had already prepared to move on and I let her go... I did exchange names and I realise now that I'm getting a little better... Hahaha, this is fun. No, wait, apparently according to my notes I held intense eye-contact... It's handy to make those notes.

Next girl I don't even remember, all I know is that I opened and held my fundamentals well. I guess nothing came from it.

Last girl of the day, I had a dissertation seminar to go to. I opened her, I had stong fundamentals, strong eye contact and a sexy smile plastered on my face, how could she resist... She didn't. She broke out blushing at the end of my opener. I teased her on it and moved her immediately to the side whilst hugging her. After this we had a light conversation, me finding out what she did and her returning a couple of questions, she qualified herself a few times and then tried qualifying me... I deflect them with either "we can find out later" or by changing topic.

One part of the conversation that stuck out (hahaha, you'll get it in a second) was when we got onto the topic of the décor of the mall. There's this giant snowman that when kids put money into one of those spinning charity boxes it releases foam on them. Pointing it out, I say "I love this place, like that snowman, it just ejaculates on everyone... It's so exciting and everyone who gets near gets aroused by intrigue and gets covered in foam" I couldn't stop myself from laughing... I didn't even look at her whilst saying it but it was worth it... I did get her number pretty easily and have yet to text her.

Now, here's a good story, I'm sure you're all gonna love it... It starts 5 years ago, before I knew of GC and way before my mental health issues (OCD, Depression and Anxiety, all in one and at the same time... I had a laugh). Anyway, sadness out of the way, I went on holiday to Abu Dhabi at this time and I met a girl, we're gonna call her YL for Yorkshire Lass. Now she is pretty damn cute, was when she was 14 (I was 16 back then, it's fine) and is now. She e-mailed me a couple of weeks back saying she had noticed me at Uni and hadn't had a chance to say hi yet (she ended up at the same Uni as me, somehow). I wait a few days before messaging back and then suggest we meet. She has lecture right after me and we end up having a brief 1 minute chat, I tease her hard on what I can remember about her... oh yeah, this was the girl who stopped me committing suicide, that is a long story in itself, but I remembered a fair bit about her, as you can imagine. I'm no longer attached to her, I did like her for a short stint but got over it, I'm just trying out a few things in the book The Art of Seduction by Robert Greene.

I believe I've been a bit too hard so I message her saying, "hey, I was in a rush let's have a proper talk and get a coffee", she agrees and we started to sort out logistics, she first tried to dominate it but I turned it around and got her complying with me.

Today, we had our date, I e-mailed her back saying, got a dissertation seminar at 2, lets meet at 3 by the gym instead and then gave her my number... She texted me back a little later agreeing and I didn't reply.

Now, I know this girl is pretty and is going to have guys chasing after her, my plan is to just tease her ruthlessly and give her enough validation to not go sour... Again I don't care, I'm trying something new as I'm too nice. We meet and hug and the first thing I say to her is the chase frame "I see you enticed me into a date..." and swiftly changed topics. We talk fluff and I tease her again and again, but give her some validation, not going to strong yet. She then asks me how the past 5 years have been, I had this planned... I looked away looked a little sad for a moment, I then "shook" myself to my senses and replied "yeah, they've been great"... Sending mixed signals and adding complexity as I seem quite happy. I also add to my social value and preselection by saying "I'm sorry if I'm tired, we didn't get much sleep last night" and then moved topics again.

This sparked her a little later on to ask if I have a girlfriend, I reply I don't do that anymore... She thought I meant it in a bad way, but reframed it in the sense that no girl could hold a candle to her, so now I just bounce... Trying to touch on the insecurity that she's used to getting what she wants easily, and now she isn't the best. All the while I was keeping my fundamentals in check and looking at her intensely every once in a while whilst we walked to the café.

I get her to agree to buying my coffee, and offers to buy me some food, I decline the food, I'm trying to watch what I eat... Which was going well, until I got after-sex munchies last night. I called the girl I bedded on Thursday to fuck, made sure she didn't sleep over... I'm treating YL like a test, how good am I in reality when I try my fucking hardest, without looking like I'm trying.

We sit upstairs, no one else is around... We've already touched on the topic of sex so I know a little bit about her sexual history and it turns out she broke-up with her bf last week... A little later on she mentions she has a crush on this hot guy in her class, I don't know if it was to make me jealous because I had already teased her so hard or seemed unattainable but this happens a little later.

Anyway, we're upstairs and we talk about our pasts, I inquire into why she wants to be a dentist, she tells me, I get in close, she tells me not to kiss her, I wasn't really thinking about it, I was testing the waters and trying to be polarising. I move back but make a mental note, the conversation progresses and I tease her ruthlessly, she says she'll punch me, I said some offhanded comment that deflected it easily...

Now YL is starting to qualify herself, I give her a little validation but I keep the teasing going... I make sure I am the exact opposite of nice and I get rewarded with being called a dick... excellent. Back to the book, I've already sent mixed signals and I'm taking little chips at her strengths and prodding her weaknesses a little... All the while I'm giving her little bits of validation to keep her from auto-rejecting, things like "you do seem quite interesting... vaguely".

She decides to show me some of her dancing on her phone, I imply that I do some as well. I pull her closer to me and have my arm around her body whilst she shows me... Again, no validation... I point at one of the girls at the back and say if that's her... She starts qualifying herself like crazy now... After about 5 lines of qualifying I tell her I was teasing. Then I give her a little good conversation and then take it all away by telling her she isn't my type...

We then talk for a couple more minutes and then I decide to leave... I'm not trying to pull this girl now, I'm busy and it was a really short date to test the waters... I just wanted to confuse the fuck out of her and get her thinking of me.

As we get up I get close to her, kiss her forehead and then her lips... She doesn't move back but neither does she engage... I make it brief to tell her I like her, but I'm not trying to make anything happen.

We then walk a short way together and she tells me that I'm really confusing... I say things that she can't put together... Admittedly, I was being very paradoxical and that's just me; I amplified it for this coffee though. She noticed my social cue about being "happy" over the past 5 years and tells me that I've changed a lot. I get her to expand on it and YL then progresses to use a couple of cold-reads on me... I don't give anything away and reply "You're pretty good at cold-reading aren't you" this caught her off-guard and she starts saying that she's good with social cues.

As she goes to get her bus we hug and I tell her, "don't try kissing me again" and then walk off before she can even deny it.

For me it was a pretty good "date", I learnt a lot, tried new things and definitely seperated myself from a nice guy persona for it. At one point I was trying to guess her cup size and she said "stop looking at my tits" I ignored her, kept looking and she didn't care one bit. I guessed she was an A, she was wearing a sports bra, so B's it was, she's definitely not a C. No doubt a killer body though.

As we left the café her body language was more slouched than it was going in, my teasing had done something... It's a matter of if I was too much of a dick. When it was starting to get too much for her, she started to tell me about this guy in her class who everyone liked, and even her... I really didn't care. I didn't let off, though now I think it was her telling me I was becoming too unattainable for her.

If she doesn't text back, my next move is to say I didn't mean to be too hard on her... Let's have a normal conversation were we actually get to know eachother.

We'll find out.

Edd

 

[Edd--19]

Night game...

After forcing myself out and being a little bit scared to enter a bar, I plucked up the courage and went in... I had a great time in there. I had my goals of holding my fundamentals and meeting 5 girls which I did in the first club... I went up and spun them around. All the girls complied and I had a fun time, loosening up. I spoke to a couple of guys and they were pretty cool and kept me social. One guy was so drunk that he tried hitting on me thinking I was a girl... hahahaha. I helped him and his friend approach a group of girls, but the girl I was attracted to danced really weirdly... Kept banging into me on purpose, a bit put off I let him have her and watched how it went.

I noticed one guy doing the same thing as me and soon he was making out with a girl... and it was pretty early in the night, I reckon that's the next step. Pull them in and kiss close them.

I left the bar and headed to one of my favourite spots, there I got talking to a regular, the security guard and a bartender before trying something new. It was a quiet and she was sitting down, really cute... flowing brown hair and a black dress that really made the imagination scream. I went up to her and tried to steal her seat. She was a little confused and quickly after her friend cock-blocked me. She had a bitch shield... I've never dealt with this before, I wanted to leave the set but forced myself to get as far as I could.

She was giving it a good go and I softened her up by complimenting her "death stare"... not the best move giving validation for acting like a bitch but I did the best I could and I've learnt from it. She pressed harder and I held my ground... Turns out she really couldn't hear me and kept wanting me to repeat myself... I refuse on several occasions because I believe she could hear me. After a minute of her bitchness her boyfriend or something came up and blasted me out of the water... No worries, I learnt a fair bit from it and even though I got labelled the creep it was worth the experience.

I felt so fucking good that I held my nerve that I'm riding a high from my success! Damn, it was awesome... So glad I went out and pushed myself. It was quiet out except at one club which is always packed but I've got an early start and it scares me a little still. Nonetheless, I'm happy with my results!

Edd

 

[Edd--19]

I have had the best experience of my life... Water turned to wine, stone to gold, women to little purring cats. Ahhh, it was awesome!

Here's what happened:

I planned to go out with a wing earlier in the day, He's a little restricted on time and is a complete novice, but he's cool. I get to the bar a little earlier than him, around 8ish and I spot this cutie at the bar and approach, just a little warm up. Now I don't know what happened but she hooked immediately, I kept my fundamentals in check and was just going for the momentum. We have a great conversation... I gain lots of early compliance, my failing with the hook I've realised, not that it matters right when I'm talking to her... I inspect her necklace, her bracelets, get her giving me lots of touch using my cold hands as an excuse and eventually I twirl her. All is going well, my eye-contact is beautiful and she is loving me so much. I grab her number and turn around and my wing is standing there amazed at what I've just done... He gives me an awesome compliment saying "seriously, you were so much smoother than the others were on Saturday!". This is big to me as one of the guys has coached before and the other 2 were heavily above me in skill.

We talk and I keep opening girls here and there, and nearly every single girl hooks immediately. He unfortunately is quite negative, racked with anxiety and isn't doing anything... It takes me a while for me to get him to open.

Anyway, we move venue's to let him cool off and he makes a bet with me that if he doesn't approach before we get to the next venue I get a fiver... deal. He does and I open 2 different girls whilst he's talking, neither of them stick around but I couldn't care less... I'm having so much fun.

We get to the next venue and I open some twins... they were identical and I couldn't decide between them; how the fuck could I? I really wanted to suggest a ménage à trois with them, I didn't have the guts to say it... I let them get on with there evening and we sit down.

He's being negative again, I try and stop him he doesn't... FFS but I stay happy and with some encouragement I approach this girl with 2 much older guys with her. I open telling her I think she's cute and they break out laughing and she's embarresed as hell. Turns out on of the guys was her dad... hahahaha. They leave us alone and I tease and flirt and get her number pretty quickly... I'm on fucking fire. A fair amount of touch and she's really cute.

We head back to the first bar we went to and it's a lot busier now... I go to the toilet and as I leave I approach the hottest girl in there and she hooks immediately as well. I use a routine and she goes crazy relating to me... She self-qualifies herself that she's intelligent and I go for the tease saying "I'm glad there's something behind the blonde hair." she then proceeds to tell me that it's dyed, which is obvious, the roots are clearly visible. She mentions she has a boyfriend and I ignore it believing it to be a test... I keep moving forward and get a hug at which point her boyfriend, right next to us, intervenes... He is a pretty short guy and he doesn't like the fact that she's attracted to me.

He tries to wrestle me out of the way but I play my cards better... I apply tLoLE to the letter and before long he looks like a social fool and the girls are taking my side, getting him to back off... They sit down and I talk to my wing who still isn't fucking approaching.

Seriously, I get it, I've been there but he has every fucking excuse... She's too young, not my type, I won't be congruent... I really don't give a fuck, you put yourself out there and learn. Only when I say I'm not going to help him does he finally approach a girl.

Whilst he does his stuff I approach another girl... Now that blonde girl with the boyfriend is looking in my direction every 5 seconds. She hooks, and is pelting me with questions... I hold the flow of the conversation and qualify her... she passes. I touch her, and escalate and pretty soon we're making out and the blonde is watching... with her friends and everytime I did something they "wooed" to try and throw me off. It doesn't... I grab the girls number and return back to my little spot to enjoy myself.

By this point though my wing is dead, negative and kinda pissing me off... If he's reading this, be more fucking positive, have fun!!! So we leave and I have a handful of numbers, I could have stayed but I was losing energy fast. I'm dead sleepy, hitting the bars nearly every night is draining me and I have lectures tomorrow. However, I've got some pretty strong leads I can follow up in the morning. All in all, I didn't have a sticking point tonight, I blasted through it... I've got to see if it keeps up, I'm sure it will if I keep doing what I'm doing. This is awesome!

Happy Gaming

Edd

Edit: I would have elaborated more but it's all a blur to me... I wasn't even drinking.

 

[Edd--19]

My game is making leaps and bounds at the moment... I'm getting girls to hook consistently now, having better starting conversations and it flows nicely.

Currently it's freezing here, snow is flaking the ground and, with a bit of a cold, we hit the bars. We start at one a bit close by and do a couple of warm up sets. My body language was good, the witty comments came out and things looked up. I had a couple of girls play with their hair, qualifying themselves. Strong eye-contact, little bit of incidental touch and a peppering of intrigue all helped. I got caught up in my head a couple of times during the conversation but saved myself and the interactions were strong. Didn't get any numbers. I didn't really think about it in one conversation and the other girl got dragged away just as I was about to go for it... Could have got it earlier but nonetheless I was doing well.

We move to another bar. It's quieter and not many girls to open and they're all in large groups. I had a couple of girls looking at me, one girl planted herself next to me but I was shivering head to toe... I was more concerned about warmth in reality... The body cares more about surviving than sex it seems, unless it can do both at the same time . We plan to leave but first there's 8 girls on a table and I go up and open them using the "I completely disagree" opener... It bombs, catastrophically. I get 2 sarcastic laughs and the rest of the group looks at me awkwardly. I hold in there, trying to break the bitch shields, nothing happens.

We head to the next bar and I try a couple of approaches. The first girl was into me but I messed up by having a boring conversation and draining energy from her. Otherwise, I opened strongly, and had good non-verbals. I think I did one or two more approaches but they flop. We switch to another bar.

Bouncer wouldn't let us in and after waiting for a friend to get some girls to help us get in we go for another option. In my favourite bar, I spot this cute girl I place myself just to her side, wait a moment... She turns around looks at me whilst I'm looking into the distance. After about 5 seconds I open... She's into me. I tease her, find a little bit of info about her and challenge her a bit more. I keep some of my mysteriousness and make her work to get any kind of information about me. I'm holding strong eye-contact, her not so much... Albeit her pupils are very dilated. I start to qualify her and she fails both screens... I put on an unimpressed look on my face she points it out and then I say "We'll have to find some other way for you to make it up" with a sexy look. Giving her attention when she failed my screens is not a good thing to do. I follow this up by trying to isolate her... I'm not persistant enough. I try lightly at first but fail... A second time I try and grab her hand but she doesn't follow and I leave her.

After a couple more approaches we leave the bar and go to a McDonalds as I'm starving, freezing and, with no other restaurants around, tired. I go in and see a cute girl in the queue. Still in a energetic mood I go up to the side of her and open her with "This queue's huge, I didn't know you had this many friends". I get a giggle out of her and after a little banter, some strong eye-contact on my part, we get to a little bit of rapport. After about 2 minutes of chatting about something (my memory's hazy) I go for her number. She obliges and I swiftly leave the venue in search of food, McDonald's never has appealed to me. I do remember that I used a good bit of touch, escalating it to higher levels, made the conversation a little sexual and definitely used a chase frame... Damn, I love chase frames!

I made a couple more approaches in the night but nothing came of them, I was a little uncalibrated in them... For example, I ran up to some girls in the street from the side and slightly behing them. It freaked them out, and I left shortly after. The others I didn't really follow through on. Nothing I don't know how to handle.

Catch you soon!

 

[Edd--19]

Hey a little update... I've been busy working on my dissertation, leaving little time to post and approach. It was deadline day today so I can get back into the rhythm of things.

I've noticed that I do much better in night time environments, I hook quickly and can get a fair few numbers from girls... I haven't yet started to move them to an isolated area to build rapport. That's becoming my goal.

Day game is still slow for me, it depends on the day it seems and I reckon I'm missing something. I've decided to quit getting numbers right away and go for instant dates instead.

Recently I've been trying to work on my facial expressions in an interaction and following through on my process. I got some experience today with my sexy smile whilst opening but got choked up on following my process.

I came away from today feeling like I was sucking the energy out of the conversations I was in. It showed in my results, only two girls stopped to talk to me the others kept moving. I'm not thinking too much about it as I haven't focused on it as much recently and haven't been focusing on my game as much as I wanted to but the degree matters to me too.

I did have some practice with my smile and it has been going well... I've noticed that I used to overdo the smiling... Looked piranha like, haha. Tweaked it. Overall, just not my day.

 

[Edd--19]

I made a couple of aproaches when I wen out yesterday night.

I wasn't feeling it after my bad streak but I forced myself out. I wasn't in the mood for going to a club, and the only place that was open was an absolute cock-fest from the looks of the queue... I'll skip that thanks. On the way to one of my favourite bars I meet this cute brunette with a little green in her hair. I go direct, as usual and the conversation. She needs to get the bus home before it leaves, we have a couple of lines of dialogue but she's been slowly inching herself towards her stop so I let her go and keep walking to the bar. The conversation was the best I had from the day and my vibe was a lot less try-hard, more sexual, got a sexy smile in at the start and I could tell she liked me but she had to get the bus. I persisted a little but I kept using the same line and this doesn't work for me. I've got to try giving different reasons each time I open my mouth.

A little further on I spot another cute as hell girl, brunette again, a little shorter than me with a cool scarf draped around her neck. I open her direct, complimenting her sense of style and she lights up. I build a little small talk, tease her on her blushing and build a sexual frame... Something which is becoming much easier recently. I get in some flirting and go to whisper something in her ear... She mistakes it as me going in to hug her and initiates touch. I set a couple of chase frames and she starts playing with her hair and smiling at me. I forgot to qualify her and move her. However the conversation was much more natural than many I've had in the past. She mentions she works at pizza express and that she gets free pizza. I bite and ask her if there's a position there, and I work there I'd get free pizza and "people" would get to stare at me... I delivered this with strong eye-contact and a sexy tone of voice. As we joke I go for her number, getting it on a high point, she mentions she has a boyfriend and I reply that we'll be discrete, sexily. She agrees and we swap phones. I build a little comfort after and then hug her farewell.

Today I missed a ton of lectures but it's not too bad, it's mostly revision sessions and I find them a little useless. I headed out to get in some game and to find a new scarf since I lost my cool blue one. The first girl I meet was another brunette wrapped up for the cold weather, I really wanted to unwrap her but she blew me out instantly. I did forget to smile and came off a little wrong.

I meet another girl outside whilst checking out shops for scarves and this girl stops, I get her name but she is busily trying to get somewhere, though it doesn't look like it. I try and persist but again I met the same problem as earlier. I say we'll be 2 minutes as they're walking away and as they get out of range I become needy repeating myself. I can use a false time constraint as soon as I open or try different excuses to keep her with me.

The next girl I met in a shop, asking her where the scarves were, she smiled brightly and I immediately moved her with me to find the scarves, she followed but I could tell that she was a bit nervous right after me doing so. I reckon I moved too fast and she wasn't ready for it, but she felt inclined to follow for some reason. Anyway she asked a shop attendent where the scarves were and then found a way to go in a different direction than me. No worries, I'll build up some more comfort first, but I can move immediately in an interaction.

I can't remember much about the next girl, I think I opened her just as I was about to go into a shop. All I've got noted down about the conversation is that I was trying too hard to build attraction and I could tell... My voice was strained and she liked me at first but she cooled off quickly. I'm guessing I'm putting too much pressure on myself to perform at the start. I'm sorting this out, I'm getting better at just being casual and building attraction and having a sexy vibe.

The next girl I opened was a shop assisstant, I decided to get her opinion on a scarf I liked. It was a long interaction. It started off with the normal questions, getting a girl's opinion on it and that. I started to build more flirting into the convo she was laughing and this encouraged me to keep going. I got a fair number of flirts in with some chase frames all delivered well. At one point I got in close to her and did a little roleplay about how we share the money in our relationship and she could easily help me out with buying such an expensive scarf. It made her laugh and I was coming across sexy (I believe)... She was looking down a lot of the time. I went for her number and persisted but she didn't want to give me it, mostly I'm guessing because she has a boyfriend and I'm a few years younger than her and she doesn't want to mess that up with a quick fling. I kept up the fun, making her laugh and finding a few things out about her but nothing too deep. I have a feeling I was more an entertainer than anything at the time, I can work on this by getting into rapport faster, cutting a lot of the flirting out, but good experience nonetheless. I didn't buy the scarf. I'm not going to if I start flirting with an assisstant, it could lead to me spending all my money and I'd rather have some left to travel.

I headed back to go to a lecture and on the way into campus I noticed a black haired girl with the most intriguing necklace around her neck. I complimented her on it and she lighted up... I gave her a false time constraint and cold read her about doing some christmas shopping (thanks Ray, sound advice, should've taken it much earlier). She agreed and I related saying its that time of year and asked her about who she's buying it for, etc. Not a strong vibe, I was trying too hard with this girl but I had a lecture to go to so I quickly said I had to dash, there was a lull at the end and went for her number. She gave it to me and I fucked up as she was typing it in I said some stupid shit about the phone not working... Not great to complain 2 minutes into meeting her. Sometimes it works but I wasn't projecting a playful vibe. We hug, it felt a little weird, too much too soon, and leave.

Finally on the way home, realising my lecture is for an examples class for a level 5 Quantum Mechanics class, too advanced for me, I bump into another cute girl. I had a good vibe going, a little sexy. I couldn't get her to stay for too long, she had somewhere to be, as we spoke I noted she had an accent and cold read her to being from Germany... Nah ah. Not much else as she walked away to get to her seminar. I missed a teasing opportunity with her accent saying "girls like you, always trying to lead on guys like me", a little bit of a chase frame too.

Pretty proud of myself with these approaches, getting much better throughout. Haven't met anyone who I can take on an instant date yet but I'm sure I'll find someone to try my new process on.

 

[Edd--19]

Went out last night and today. Trying to be sexy I've been working a lot on my tone of voice during approaches and when I get it right I get much more attention and attraction from women. It also sets me in the frame of mind of being sexual, making any flirting much easier.

I woke up today not really feeling it, I had a strange dream and last nights approaching wasn't spectacular... the two coupled together took a little chunk out of my positivity. On the walk to the town centre I was focusing on trying to redirect my mind to having good approaches, it was like a meditation session on foot. My mind straying back and forth; I wasn't feeling any better but not worse. I kept on imagining me making sexy approaches with a good voice tone and sexy smile to keep me on my goals.

Once in town I decide that to get myself of my head to make a few compliment ejects, a simple method that has worked for me in the past. I spot two cute girls and one after the other I give them compliments and then leave them to their own devices. After each one I felt more social and less worried about my thoughts and decided that it was good to get into it properly and warm up. The next girl I meet has brown-blonde hair, looks young and is pretty damn cute (and fuckable). I walk up and open her directly, she's really pleased with the compliment and we get into a conversation. She's looking at the university and plans to study English. I cold read her about liking poetry and turns out she's a fan. We talk briefly about books, Dorian Grey and I make a sexual frame about her wanting to write romance novels. I move her and plant myself against a bollard, we're talking about English now and why she wants to study it. She ellaborates whilst I look at her with a sexy smile, making sure that I'm conveying sexuality. I set a few chase frames here and there giving her strong eye-contact and touch whilst I do so. We talk and on a high point I go for her number, she tries to deflect it but I persist and she types it in. As she's handling my phone she's tests me by asking to hold her drink. I decline, using some stupid excuse, and she types in her number just fine. We wrap up our conversation and she tells me to "text me later... maybe". Haha, maybe.

The next two girls I spoke to were pretty cool, I don't remember how the interactions went, all I've got written down is that with the first girl I had my vibe going and when she tried to leave I persisted, the second girl I had a sexy vibe as well and was flirting well with her too.

Next two girls just weren't into me... Can't win them all. Then I was just banal in my vibe. Next approach was better but was trying too hard to make something out of the conversation, trying too hard to have a sexy vibe and I flunked it. Next girl I got into a conversation with, it was alright, I lost attraction as the interaction progressed and to try and save it I went for the tease but I came off completely terribly, I was reeking off boredom, as soon as I said it she got slightly weirded out and I just said bye and left her.

Next girl I met was a pretty greek girl, light brown hair, cool sense of style and overall just a really cute girl... unfortunately she was covering up a lot . I started off well, not overly sexy but not boring. The conversation started to get upbeat, she told me she was from Greece and I commented that she had no accent. I teased her on losing her tan by the end of the week with the English weather, she laughed. I flirted a little bit with her and then tried to get her number. She declined saying she had a boyfriend, I persisted but she was adament. Realising I was going for her number too soon I let her get back to meeting her friends. It seems I'm going for the number too early, I'm not building enough attraction up, I also didn't move her and should have kept talking to her as well. I didn't qualify her either. So I should flirt, get her talking, whilst she's talking move her to the side, get her more invested and then go for her number on a high point.

After the greek gift that I messed up with there was another opportunity coming out of Next, I walk up to her and compliment her. She's obviously attracted to me. However she's just a statue during the conversation, I got really confused. I was trying to get her to talk but I'd get one word answers back. I knew she was attracted to me at the start but as I tried to get her involved a little bit she wouldn't respond. I don't know what I should've done. Looking back I now know I should have kept moving the conversation forward and talked about random shit with emotion, flirted ("I reckon you're the type who's silent because they have a strong imagination "), moved her, and then number closed but I clammed up and exited the conversation. I started to lose her attraction from the start as I lost my sexy vibe after the opener and it turned dull.

Next girl wasn't into me. The girl after was a brief conversation and my vibe was much stronger and sexier but I lost her quite quickly. After this girl I met two more and I had only a boring vibe about myself, along with logical converastion I killed any chance of building attraction. It seems that my issue has been me being boring unwittingly. I would worry more about what I would say and forget that how I'm saying it matters more. I'd completely neglect my tone of voice. Fortunately, this is slowly being sorted out, I'm going straight for a sexy vibe with a bit of an edge to really try and ramp up the attraction when I meet girls.

The last girl I meet is on the way home. I had got some Christmas shopping out of the way, a small, ornate, glass vase for one of my sisters and 3 pairs of socks for my Step-dad, one of which is Christmas themed, of course. I'm listening to some music I wrote on the way home, keeping an eye on my sexy edge I'm constructing and this cute girl walks by, wearing some pretty cool winter wear. She's a little larger than I usually go for, but the experience is more than worth it. I open her and quickly cold read her on going to university, not a difficult one. She expands on it saying she's studying art and design. I'm surprised cause I thought she'd be baker or English student. I then go off into a routine, and she soon qualifies herself. I keep chatting to her, it's not very flirtatious but I'm just about holding my sexual vibe. On a high point I go for her number but she says she has a boyfriend. I ignore this and keep talking to her. This time I turn things a bit more flirtatious and add a few chase frames in. I then decide to leave for home, not going to try the number again I'm not that into her, but we shake hands, hug twice and leave.

I've collected 4 numbers over the past 3 days, out of the 3 I've texted none of them have messaged back, I'm going to try and see if I can get them to respond, last time I tried to a text designed to get a response, it worked but the girl never replied to me after that. Hmmm, what can I do? I can make the text less outlandish and more intriguing. I'll see if it works. I think I'll send something like "Hey, I have had the most decadent dessert, you really have to try this place!...". Okay, sent them.

To wrap up my sexy vibe is getting better, it's still pretty weak but I'm slowly strengthening it. It's helping me out with being more flirtatious and having better conversations than the really banal ones I used to. It also forces me to not try too hard, something that I've been a culprit off for more than half of my approaches and I never fixed it because I never noticed it, and if I did something else quickly took priorty, essentially I had 0 patience. I'm sorting that out with meditation exercises, and reading books... So far in the past couple of weeks I've digested; The art of Seduction, 48 Laws of Power, Sexual body language, The game, The Red Queen and I'm reading how to talk to anyone right now and it's helped a fair chunk. Socialising was never my strong point but since this site was discovered it's helped tremendously.

I've got a Bootcamp this weekend, hopefully I'll find some time to type up, if I take my laptop. I'm hoping to make some changes to my game and also have some external source tell me what the biggest thing I can do to improve is. I'm looking forward to it, it's a little jarring to think that I'm going to be getting extrene feedback on my game and hopefully they'll help me solve some issues... Or at least highlight them so I can change them.

Edd

 

[Edd--19]

Aftercontemplating whether to head out or not, and really not wanting to, I forced myself to go out. I was knackered and got myself through the pain.

So I choose a couple of places I know will be good for the night, on the walk down I feel myself wanting to stay mellow and not do too much, I miss a couple of opportunities on the walk down and wasn't expelling any sex appeal... Maybe mattress appeal, but more for the kip. As I get closer to the first order of the night I decide to get a little out of my head and compliment-eject a woman on her scarf. She's pleased and I'm feeling a bit exuberated with my defiant approach to my sleepiness. After passing a few bars on the way I notice that it's pretty damn quiet, I don't know Wednesdays well but I have heard of a few nights being hosted on that day; after all I'm in a student city.

Most the bars are ravaged with empty seats and tables. I get closer to my chosen locale, fortunately it's busy. Now I've never been here before, there's a queue and I'm tired. I walk up to one girl ask if it's a good place (I was opening her) she just brushed me off. Hahahaha, forgot to smile and bring some upbeat subtext (don't really want to say energy, it gets me confused, I'm very, very literal, so me using energy will create more issues than it solves; for me it's superfluous). Sleepy me considers the bar, the queue, the girls and comes up with an ideal solution. Let's skip this venue, find a quieter place to warm up and head to my latter spot just before it gets busy. This should build me up making me feel more energized and compelling.

Now, you might think this is a good solution or I'm a little nuts for passing up a busy venue. Right now, I'm on the side of the latter. I forgot to think of another place to go to. I walked outside, tried to think of a spot, opened a girl and was stuck. The opening was asking for a cigarette, I'm trying to stop and most people if you ask for one won't. However, I converse with her and deep dive her easily about what she does, used a few tricks from Leil Lowndes and she was happy talking like a singing lark. I got a lot of information out from her and at the end of it closed with a flirt. I didn't want to get her number, too old and butch for me, but thinking about it maybe I should... The sex wouldn't be ideal though, I'd rather be on top.

I leave the outside area of the bar and just walk around for about half an hour, meandering through the streets, considering my next move; to doze off or to game? If you chose the latter option, I like you. I redirect my footsteps in the orientation of my chosen club. I trudge on, my feet cushioned against the dull pavement. I spot several groups, mixed, releasing their pent up energy from days spent at work. Friends catching up, lovers whispering in ears, the collection of singles daydreaming behind the rest. Group after group passes by, I'm tempted to meet some off the girls but nerves can be a bitch. Sleepiness erases my memory, my understanding of time, and within what felt like minutes I'm staring at a closed door. The fruits of my labour, the dreams I had concocted and the hopes I clung on to, dashed. The club was closed.

So I head for home. I haven't been too successful but then I feel this urge that feeds me the desire to keep going. I head back to venue number 1, the queue has doubled in size. I stand at the very end behind a couple of cute girls but I never open them.

A little later I'm sitting down, in the queue, and these girls get in front off me. I'm having none of it. I tap her (the girl who moved in front first), she ignores me, I tap her again, she ignores me, I pinch her arm, she finally looks at me. I gesture that I'm in the queue, I really cannot be fucked to talk. She tells me that I'm sitting down... Well, no shit, observation skills like an owl. I raise my eyebrows, shrug my shoulders, purse my lips and then motion her to go behind me. She says the pinch hurt. At this point I should have given a bored smile and either retorted "you better see a doctor then" or just got up and taken my place. It was obvious I was in control the entire time, I was putting in a hell of a lot less effort than she was. However I didn't take this route. You see, I took the "let's pretend to be a mute" path instead. I pretended to communicate to her in sign language and then waved my hands in the air in circles. Yeah, smooth. I learnt from it, don't want to do it again but looking back it a- caused the group to leave, b- put enormous amounts of social pressure on the girl if she is going to start a fight with a "disabled person" and -c it was fun to watch her fluster as she tried to figure out what to do in the situation.

I'm in the queue, it's only moving because people are leaving the queue not the bar. I find myself next to this cute brunette who's on her own, she's wearing a sweet dress and it's very well fitted. I open her about how the queue is barely moving. She agrees and I start to take the conversation into a strong direction. I find out what she's doing, what she plans on doing why she wants it. I flirted with her built good comfort, finally had some sexy vibe going for me. We're chatting and I'm using my facial expressions well letting her know I'm interested in what she's talking about and that. However, I keep flopping my words by bringing in negative connotations... I couldn't filter them out. Eventually the conversations died down between us, the queue isn't moving and I figure why not try and pull her to a different bar. I go for it and we leave.

As we leave I don't go and hold her hand, I should have done but I was nervous and didn't think it was right at the time, so more lack of inexperience than anything else. I don't have a plan where we're going but I walk in a general direction where I know there will be good bars. We talk a bit and I try teasing her a couple of times they don't come off as intended and they weren't get teases either, fortunately I use a routine that hasn't failed me on her. She cracks a smile and we're walking, I still haven't gone for her hand, I haven't touched her really since we left the bar. We're chatting but the conversation keeps dying and it's getting harder to rekindle it each time. I seem to be losing my subtext and using rather logical sentences. I inject a little laughter into the conversation to build me up but it peters out. She soon gets a phone call from her friends, they have just left and she has to go see them. I persist on trying to keep her here, but I realise it just isn't going to happen, so I go for her number, she gives me hers and I say I'll call it and if it's fake it doesn't matter. I phone her and she hugs me quickly and leaves... hmmm, is it real or is it fake?

I messed up that by having a few bouts of negative comments and lacking any upbeat vibe to go with it. I was tired, I'm letting myself off.

I start the walk home and as I'm passing by this one last place I quickly adjust course so I'm going into the venue. I've been in this place once before, it has the cheesiest music ever but it wasn't too bad tonight. I get a water and start dancing a little to get me more into the feel of things and I slowly meet 2 girls. The first doesn't like me at all, the second girl does. The difference between the two was that I was letting loose in the second approach, dancing, having fun, etc. As I'm dancing sleepily, this one girl, who is really hot, keeps trying to catch my eye. She eventually "bumps" into me and apologises. I know that this is basically her way of opening me and now it's up to me to keep it going. I wait a moment and watch her giggle with her friends about what she did. I walk up to her and try spinning her in a low effort manner, she doesn't get it at first but then twirls. She invites me into her group of two friends making us a quartet. The two friends sort of huddle away from us and my girl keep engaging me. By this point every time I shut my eyes I get hallucinations of my duvet. She asks my name, what I study, where I study and then proceeds to tell me about herself. At this point I should have gotten her to sit down with me and off the dance floor. I thought about it and against my better judgement I just left her saying that I have to meet a friend. I chickened out.

Now, I'm at the bar and I figure that I can meet a few more girls and try to be sexy and have that vibe emit from me. I said I had to try and meet 3 girl with a sexy vibe, I got blown out by all 3 immediately and there was no sign of sexiness whatsoever. I then headed home analysing the night, what I did well and what could have been improved.

I'm off to sleep Night

 

[Edd--19]

Been off for a while; wanted to hit the refresh button. I slowed down the quantity of approaching I've been doing, taking on a more lax route. Surprising to say that the results are starting to show. In the past few weeks I've slept with one girl, gotten further with many girls than I'd ever got before, had girls opening me, had some chasing hard and so on. The overwhelming majority of these results have come from night game. To me, it seems quite funny that my results are better at night even where I've spent less time practising whereas day game is still cumbersome. Anyway, big news ahead, lets get to it.

After my time away from my laptop I did a little thinking, lots of research and thought up solutions, as is me. Here is how the thoughts floated through for you to follow. Opening is okay, approach anxiety still here but with persistence and patience it isn't an issue (is an issue during the night). Surviving the first couple of minutes and reaching the hook point in day game is not happening consistently, I am repeating the same things that are failing, have to tweak how I interact with girls at the beginning. Rapport, hit and misses, like an intermediate tennis player, relating seems to be the big problem here, more so in night game (also, I'm not opening up myself when girls ask about me, not a very mutual interaction, maybe mystry/intrigue should be more like a map on a video game). Closing, missing signals but learning fast and taking action and guessing at the moment. Sex, gist of it is I have a fair amount of material to crunch through and digest.

Night game problem: Opening

Day game problem: Hooking

Night game opening is more to do with fear and I've just gotta get on with it.

Day game, I freeze up after the opener and I have done absolute zilch to correct this persistent problem. I tried routines then gave up, tried cold reading, gave up, tried several things and I gave up too soon, didn't give time for it to feel normal. Which comes down to being scared to change. Which you'll find nicely leads onto the next point.

Now, everyone is scared of changing, and maybe, when it comes down to it, it's about taking positive steps to enact our change we want. For example, lets take Ray Zorse as an example, I love the guy, he's helping many people, he's enthusiastic and has been doing what he can to get this part of his life sorted. By contrast (not slandering me), I said I wanted to change but it seemed my actions never ran parallel to my thoughts, I did do what I could with girls but I got to a point where I stopped changing what I was doing, that or I hit a plateau and I didn't know what it was about. If you conpare us, Ray has had much better success and is a force to be reckoned with on these boards! Leading me to admit that my problem, the big thing that stopped me from getting what I wanted was... me. And I've said that several times on here now... Embarrassing. But if I'm not dead honest each time I come to write, reflect and learn, what is the point?

Now the changes that I've implemented to help me commit to changing everything. I never did goal setting, except in the early days, and have taken it up. A couple of days in, I'm sticking to it regardless of how I feel. The most difficult emotion to fight is tiredness, that's the one to catch and not slip up on. Next, I've redefined my overaching goal, it's a drawing of a phone full off messages from girls who I've slept with and a couple of messages from friends. Good to keep the spirits up.

I've bought a voice recorder, mainly for affirmations to go in passively. I don't know if it's working yet but I like to think so, my mindsets were a little unrealistic; definitely time they go. Lastly I've been reading a lot of books, the main one I want to implement successfully is 7 Habits, there are others that I want to work on as well but that is the big key I want to collect.

Onto my field report for the day, the real reason for coming, but we had to go through the other stuff, background information:

-Goal, survive 2 minutes in set or until the girl leaves.

I walked into town with a friend, a girl who is heavily into me and one I've fooled around with a couple of times (didn't sleep with eachother, she said she wasn't ready and I moved on; we're friends now). We talked on the way, and she was on a topic that I could practice relating skills on so I tried it and I got a few good'uns in. The topic kept cropping up and I didn't want to keep relating to her on a negative thread so I practised thread cutting as well, pretty decent for a walk.

We get to town and I leave her, she's jealous as she figures out I'm going to meet girls, and tries to stick around but she leaves. I haven't done serious day game in a while; my approaching skills are rusty. I'm also feeling tired and dehydrated (tonsillitis infection mid last week). I decided beforehand that I wanted to get warm ups added into my process. I started with a few friendly questions to strangers to break out of my head and then proceeded to have a conversation with a small photography company doing some marketing in town. The chat started off a bit stale, I tried to tease but came off wrong but managed to engage one of the women there. She was friendly and we spoke briefly whilst I looked at the shots in a photo book. My eye-contact was split between the book and the marketer, when I was looking it was good. I recently re-learnt about positive-negative body language and attempted to balance it but didn't pay enough attention to it. I was warming up, so I didn't really care.

I leave the marketers and make my way the shopping centre I pass lots of opportunities because I was getting scared of approaching and after about half an hour of missed opportunities I carved up the nerve to approach one girl. She didn't stop for me but that's was fine, by this point I was happy I met one girl. I walked off feeling relieved; a start.

The girl after stopped for me, she beamed a smile back and I started talking about her clothes, I was displaying good body language, strong eye-contact and a recovering voice (tonsillitis). She wasn't hooked yet but with a little more effort she could have been, however I panicked on topic and picked up the old dead thread. Immediately afterwards she left, smiling though. Another thing I've noted from all the resources sprawled across the globe, reviving a thread before a girl has hooked is like an anchor in the sea; not going anywhere.

Number 3 was tempted to stop but didn't. Likewise with number 4.

5th girl to be met was sauntering away, nearly about to turn a corner. I stop her just before she turns and open. She stops, and I try to survive my two minutes. I talk about how there is this awesome lego display being built by a charity in the shopping mall, how it's slowly coming along and how incredible an idea it is. She tries to speak when I pause but my fear filled mind over-rides what she's saying and after about 3 attempts to talk she excuses herself.

I decide to venture 1 more set. As I'm walking down a crowded street there are these two smoking girls walking beside me. I try and think of an opener to use on them. All of my direct openers have failed so far and I want to survive 2 minutes. Fortunately, a transvestite is handing out flyers (quite common here) and I open the girls and get them laughing. I walk with them holding the conversation and making jokes here and there until the topic dies. At which point I refuse to start it up again and get there names and proceed to build some comfort with them. 1 of them is attracted to me, looking down when I look at her and the other is starting to ask me questions. At some point I realise I have nothing left to say, and proud of my achievement, leave. I should have pushed for coffee here, I knew I should have in set but I was happy that I got them attracted to me.

Besides I reached my goal for the day and I might've hooked the 2 set. Thinking about it, I should leave a dead intro topic and move on, do some warm up openers as well and go for coffee if the girls are having fun!

Thanks for reading all of this, not just this post but for my entire journal,
Edd

 

[Edd--19]

Interesting night... Where to begin.

After a successful session of daygame (2 numbers and an insta-date) with trying out some new material I was up for a bit of night time approaching. As the hours tick by though, apprehension sets in; it's a Saturday night and I've got no one to go out with. I haven't garnered much experience with busiest day of the week which rachets up the anticipation. However, when the clock chimes that it's time to go, I grab my jacket, phone and wallet and hit the bars.

I get to one bar that I know will let me in... Most places seem to have a mixed group policy. I settle in, order a beer and do... nothing. I'm stuck in my head, in a busy bar, scared of approaching the girls. I think back to what my goal for the night is; try and auto-reject 3 girls in 5 mins. At that point I'd be proud if I managed 1. After spending about 15-30 minutes giving the wall behind me the job of holding my weight I slink off to make my first approach.

This girl was by herself sitting down opposite to where I was standing. You could tell she had noticed me before I even moved a muscle. I reached her, she was in a black dress which draped a slender frame, but it drew attention to her height; even sitting down couldn't hide that she had eaten a lot of greens when she was younger. The word "hi" barely makes it to her ear, I'm not standing that close to her, 3 feet away, but with the noise drowning me out, it's not enough. She doesn't look pleased to see me, at which point her friend returns with drinks. She shifts her attention away from me, but I refuse to not be beaten so quickly. I tap her on the shoulder, smile on my face, and give her my name. A polite smile stretches her face and she responds. I'm giving off an unrelaxed vibe, but first approaches have that affect on most people. I exchange a few simple pleasantries with her and then let the two girls be.

The time passes quite slowly, I've not approached anyone other than the sitting girl and am fighting my emotions to make another approach. My willpower is depleted though and every second sucks the energy from me, just like a bite from a vampress. More time passes and I'm near where the seated girl was, but she's vanished from this place. A stunning girl, clothed in a skimpy black dress, elegantly covering all the areas that shouldn't be. Black or brown hair, the dim lighting makes it hard to tell. I watch her getting drinks from the bar and after 2 minutes of deliberation refuse to leave the bar without approaching her. I stride myself next to her, she turns and I ask "are you finished" she replies yes and turns her attention to her friends. Fear got the better of me. Resigning myself to the night I leave the bar and walk outside.

As my foot hits the concrete my eyes lock with one of my wings who is out as well. We chat briefly and he tells me that another one of our wings is inside the bar I was just about to leave. This short chat built a little social momentum to keep me in the bar. We enter the bar and search for our elusive friend.

Our hunt for our friend ends in the upstairs bar, he's chatting to a girl and doing well, at first glances. With renewed zeal I open a slightly plump asian girl beside me. I don't care, I want to see if I can get at least 1 girl to auto reject. I open plainly and ask a few boring questions to build a little comfort. Then I start to push-pull her. I give her positive emotions and touch. After she replies I take it away by telling her she's boring and closing off my body language. I do this a couple of times and she starts touching me back, I keep going and I get her in close to me and I attempt a kiss close but it was a weak attempt; her friend next to her didn't help either.

A few moments later the gorgeous girl in the skimpy black dress arrives... turns out they're friends. I start talking to her and we exchange names. I decide, in the moment, to go straight for the negative emotion in push pull.. but I play it too strong too soon. When she gives me her name I state out loud that it's sh*t. She auto-rejects and a blonde friend looks shocked. I hang around a moment or too, trying to re-engage... play it off as a joke. The ploy fails and I head off to another section of the bar. Still, I'm proud to have auto-rejected one girl... It's highly uncalibrated but I know that now, especially the way I said it.

I take a seat downstairs, exhausted. Socialising takes more than it gives; the way of the introvert. A short while later a girl next to me grabs my attention. Apparently I had given her a compliment on the street. I try and play it off like it wasn't me; I don't know how this could go and I am lacking energy if an argument breaks out. It doesn't. She animatedly talks to me and we have a fun conversation. I choose to use this opportunity to see if I can auto-reject her. I give her validation, then take it away. Although, I'm starting to believe I gave more validation than I took. I got her to compliment me, she said I was confident. A compliment that I'm starting to hear more frequently... along with nice jacket.

I flirt with her a bit, set a few chase frames. She laughs most of the time. I get her to give me some of her drink, she does the childish manouevre of taking it just out of reach as you grab. After 3 turns I stop playing and ignore her. She re-engage me and we talk some more.

One of my wings comes along and it turns out they know eachother. She tells him about me walking up to her in the street and tries to introduce us. I interupt her saying that we know eachother already... she's not ready to buy it, wants proof. She queries me about his name. I'm right, of course. She susses out immediately that I'm into pick-up and calls me weird although I can't tell if she's being playful or genuine. She has a big grin on her face because she knows what I do. I choose to ignore it, bad behaviour should be punished with lack of attention. We stop talking and then a newly formed group of 5 of us leave (us 3 friends, street girl and her friend).

Outside another club, she keeps calling me weird or pointing out something, I ignore it... Writing this I can immediately tell this is weak behaviour; I have to deal with repititive accusations. After a while, the most expert of our group at game (elusive guy, he's taught so he's pretty good) picks her up on her bad behaviour. She starts getting defensive and becomes a little crazy, shouting out loud, trying to defend her actions and being ridiculous. After a minute or so she storms out of the queue of the club we were trying to enter. Elusive guy follows, trying to sort things out but she retreats even further and the whole situation has gone haywire... We end up leaving the queue, walking down an entirely different street, where she lunges into a cab.

The night wasn't ruined... I hadn't even registered her attempts to slander me really, they didn't have any effect. What really got to me was that I didn't complete my goal of auto-rejecting 3 girls. I tried 3, built attraction with asian girl (street girl was engaged or something, but seemed a little into me, at first) and entirely pissed off one girl within 10 seconds... Actually maybe it was successful; I did try to auto-reject 3 girls and learnt a hell of a lot about bad behaviour, dealing with it and also building attraction.

Good night for me instead.

 

[Edd--19]

Field report time:

The start of the night was early... A group of us had been organised to meet at a Nando's and get to know each other. Only one guy we don't know shows up, he's cool; we sit, eat and chat for a while. Not much happens here, mostly building up social momentum with guys and having fun.

After the food we hit a couple of bars. The first one we go to is pretty damn quiet; although it is 9 o'clock. I get in a first approach at the bar, it doesn't lead anywhere good but I hold a conversation for around 30 seconds before she slinks away with her drink. First approach done very early, I'm happy and starting to build some approach momentum.

I hit on a few girls here and there, it's a bit inconsistent my approaches... They don't come off well, I'm not out of my head yet but slowly getting into a more sociable, happy mood. As the approaches go by I'm starting to take more risks for me, going in for twirls and hugs straight off the bat, some girls comply some girls get a bit weirded out. My calibration with the weirded out girls, I presume should be to dial down my escalation and build comfort and then attraction. I start challenging girls at this point as well. Again some come off well, the girls will laugh and respond positively to me. Others would take it wrong way, get offended and the interaction would die... I later started to say I was joking to avoid auto-rejection, but it wasn't enough to save the set.

One thing I noticed about most of my approaches throughout the night; I felt needy going into them. I'm not entirely sure why. The best reason I can think of is that I was hoping for a particular outcome, namely hooking. So most likely I was over-gaming girls; trying too hard to reach a certain point with them.

Anyway, I approached a 2 set of girls, one with dark hair and a little shorter than myself, the other being blonde and about my height. I go in full on kino, hugging and twirling, the girls are a bit confused and weirded out but I hold in there. I start talking about a recent trip to Spain (that happened a while back) whilst keeping solid eye-contact. I could feel my body language leaning to the girls instead of being neutral... I felt like I was sending "accept me" signals to them. The I kept going and was building more kino with them, stronger touch, pulling the girls into me. They would comply then take a step back when I was trying to keep them close to me. Un-calibrated escalation.

I isolate the brunette girl by turning her away from her friend (who is also being chatted up by one my wings). At that point I keep her closer to me for a little longer, her body isn't completely facing me, at a slight angle but we're talking and she's laughing... However I feel like I'm just making her laugh without any rapport. I start to challenge her more and flirt harder... She laps it up. I dance a little with her then go for the kiss. She kisses me, for a heart beat and then we're talking again. Around this point her friend comes into our conversation and we're back as a group of four. I decide to go for her number and continue meeting girls... I get it on a high point and leave.

When I get back to my other good wings, they tell me to get back in and go for it with her. I make up some bullshit about wanting to keep practicing approaching but they point out that game is about closing not opening. I head back in. This time my brunette girl has joined a much larger group of girls of about 8 or so. I get her attention and lead her to a chair where we can have a deeper conversation. We sit down on what seems to be an over-sized cushion next to each other, I'm holding her hand and maintaining good eye-contact. I qualify her on her creativity, but she doesn't do too well so I help her out, accepting doodling as a form of creativity. I tease her about being a teen girl who doodles hearts on paper, making her laugh. I try and dig a bit into her life, but am uncertain of where to start so I go with the choice of what she does in her free time. She parties and shops. I get way too logical here asking her where she shops and what she goes for instead of why she chooses to shop frequently, what thrill does she get out of it and such. The conversation is very surface level and we keep backtracking to the banter phase.

After 5 minutes or so sitting down her friends sit down near us, whilst my wing which helped out in the 4 group tries to get us all to go to another bar. I get confused, believing the entire group has moved and leave the girl. Just before I do I leave with a chase frame. Turns out that no one in our group had changed venue...

After my kiss and number close with brunette girl I go for a nice 6 ft tall blonde, casually ordering a drink at the bar. My approach was off, showing too much interest too soon, she's semi facing me and I'm completely facing her, I'm locked in well before she is. I keep talking, getting her to reciprocate compliance. I give her a compliment and get her to give me one back. I make her spin for me, which took a frame battle of around 5 seconds. I picked up from her that I was too easy for her to get, she was heavily resisting any attempts at complying with me and would only do so if I really pushed it. I wasn't really sure what to do here, I tried challenging her but she didn't care, acted indifferent or disqualified herself.

Her friend shows up 5 minutes later and is much easier to get on with, complies with me and is more interested in me. I try and use this to make the disinterested blonde more interested in me. It partially works she perks up a little bit and is slightly more compliant but is still acting too friendly towards me. I never tried to move them and build up smaller forms of compliance with the girls. Coming in too interested damaged my chance as well.

As the night progressed I started getting wearier, becoming more focused on what to say next than listening to the girls I was with. So much so that I started to insult them by accident because I was trying to tease, challenge and push pull the girls but not eyeing how I was coming off. Not ideal, I took myself away for a bit to cool off. By the time I had cooled off I had crashed and didn't feel like continuing, I approached a couple more girls but nothing came from it... Most likely because I had chosen not to put my whole into it. By the end of the night I had done around 15-25 approaches at night, which is good for me.

My problem for the night was going in too strong, wanting something from the outset rather than just to have a good time. Although, I'll counter balance this with me starting early and having a couple of great interactions with girls, really good conversations and a good turnaround when I thought I was losing this really hot chick.

Takeaways, go in for the fun of meeting new people (don't try to get anything, give them value) and move girls soon into meeting them. And of course, approach at the very start of the night!!!

 

[Edd--19]

Hey all!

Had a strong night, really enjoyed myself and you would be proud!

A few of us had decided to go out for the night, for 10ish... I choose to hit the bar early to get in some decent warm ups, build social momentum and such. I walk in and meet a cool guy at the bar and have a good chat with him for 10 minutes or so, the bar is a little quiet, a few cute girls but all seated in groups. As the time passes it busies up, and I make my first approach, it goes pretty well, I hold her interest for a while but didn't hook. A few more people arrive and I keep talking to newcomers, giving energy to them and having a good time.

One girl who has been eyeing me in a group of 5 (her and 4 guys) plants herself next to me at the bar. I start a conversation with her, I got her interest and got her responding. Didn't calibrate too well to her, she was a bit on the fence and I didn't challenge or tease enough. The 4 guys she's with start pointing me out, so I go and meet them and hold a start a conversation with the group, adding energy and buzzing around... Not caring what they think of me. After I leave I can see she wants me .

At the bar more cute girls come up and I open them, several girls in I meet this cool, metal, punk-pop kinda girl and start chatting with her. She seems shy, I don't challenge much and slowly get her talking. I build up some kino and grab her number. Awesome!

One of her friends notices this and stands next to me at the bar, I go for the open, keeping my social momentum up and before I know it I'm in with this girl. Challenging her, role-playing, teasing... It was beautiful. I build kino up a lot, hugging her, high fives and lifting her off the ground. Pretty soon we're making out and I tease her by being the first to stop. She's all over me and loving it. I get her to buy me a drink and she offers me a ciggerette, I accept. Upstairs I meet her friends and they all think I'm cool.

On the way back from smoking, I notice my friends watching me with this girl, I stop to say hi briefly, then progress to move my girl to a seated locale so I can deep dive her. I learn a little bit about her passions, she's a tattoo artist and loves being creative, but I don't find out much more. I go for the pull, using brownies as an excuse but I'm not assertive enough, she wants to come with me but doesn't want to leave her friends and the night has only just started. I drop it and try again later.

She still won't come with me, but she says she really wants to make brownies with me and promises to text me later. Still I got a kiss close!!

After this, my friends and I proceed to the club. We get in and I chat to a couple of stunning girls, one blonde the other brunette. The blonde isn't properly complying with me, I haven't challenged her enough, but the brunette is more receptive, I try and use the brunette as leverage to make the blonde want me but it doesn't work too well. I do get the brunette's number and then after a bit more chit chat leave.

I meet another guy who's into game and he tags along with me for the night, trying to get me to approach so he doesn't have to, it drains my energy being around him, but I keep my spirits high.

The club is a much louder environment than the bar; higher energy. The approaches I made in the club weren't as solid, I wasn't adjusting the energy. Being naturally lower energy I did really well for the club environment, I approached several more groups, had some good conversations and picked up a few pointers. Being higher energy, namely, hahaha.

Problems, I'm noticing I'm facing;
- Challenging women/teasing them... I'm very inconsistent but when I do it's golden.
- Calibrating my approach... I go in and try to bulldoze, I am getting better at toning my approaches but requires work.
- Adapting to different environments, particularly higher energy environments.

Thanks