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jackoftades819

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So I've been in college for a few weeks now, attempting to do some approaches, but also trying to make some friends. I thought I got along well with this girl I met during orientation and her friends but she told me that while it was nice meeting up with me, she "has her own schedule and her own friends". I thought we WERE friends. She basing know these people any longer than I have. Similar issue with my approaches, I can get numbers but they never respond. Had same issue back in high school, people were fine to talk to me but never wanted to hang out or always turned down my invitations. So what the hell? Apparently no one really likes me just like I always feared. Now I'm afraid that I'm going to have to spend the rest of my college life alone in my dorm while everyone else is having fun with friends or hooking up. Does anyone know what's going? Why doesn't anyone want to spend time with me?
 

foggy

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Why should people be your friend? Do you have anything to offer? What are your interests? Do you play World of Warcraft? Go and join some clubs!
 

Shake&Bake

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Same boat here. Improv classes is my next plan to improve my social circle
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

jackoftades819

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Joined some clubs, I make acquaintances but no one wants to be my friend or hang out with me. They all have their groups of friends and I apparently can't be in them which makes no sense since they haven't known each other any longer than I have.
 

PrettyDecent

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Jack,

Yeah, they're reasons are illogical. It is a polite turn down.

Sometimes its a fundamentals problem. I don't know what you look like, but if you're slumped with terrible style and a strange voice, it'll be that. So just recheck your fundamentals (and everybody thinks they have 'fine' fundamentals, so REALLY be honest with yourself).

If it's not fundamentals, it might be because you're very self-focused, and others don't think you're giving anything to them. The thing that's most valuable to somebody is a good conversation that's focused on themselves, and you relate and add in a funny story here and there. People want to feel accepted by YOU, and if you give them that, they'll want to be your friend.

Make sure you make other people feel good. Don't focus on what they're providing you just yet.

Nick
 

Drck

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In a sense, friendships can be compared to seduction. You can't be too needy, you have to offer some value that others can appreciate, and at the same time others have to be investing as well, otherwise the friendship (or relationship) is pointless...
 

jackoftades819

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I don't know what any of you mean by "value". Am I supposed to bribe people to get them to be friends with me? I think I'm good at conversation but people still don't want to hang out with me. Because they have more important friends. What am I supposed to offer them so I don't spend every weekend alone in my dorm?
 

Drck

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People usually want to gain something from others, even if it is just attention. Think about it, why do you want friends? Because you feel lonely, you have the need for attention, you want somebody to share with you your time (so you are not lonely)...

But why do you feel lonely? In today's society, lonely people are perceived as people with negative mind set, perhaps people who are depressed. Happy people are usually cheerful, they go out and have fun (they GIVE out fun), they socialize. Unhappy people are closed off, they don't go out much, they are more passive and they want to RECEIVE some fun (e.g. they sit home and watch TV). They don't socialize much...

We are not talking about GIVING or RECEIVING in terms of money or things, rather in terms of positive energy (for lack of other words). Positive energy is simply enthusiasm, light mood, non-judgmental attitude, coolness, sharing, stories telling, paying attention to others, being interested in others ...

So when you see popular people with lots of friends they usually GIVE out positive energy. Everybody wants to be their friends. Positive energy is a VALUE, these people are GIVING out value. On the other hand, when you see people who don't give much positive energy, they are more closed off and perhaps even depressed. They don't have many friends. They are usually trying to passively RECEIVE this positive energy, in stead of giving it. In other words, they try to take the value from others... People, in general, like givers, they don't like takers... If somebody buys you lunch, you'll like him or her. If somebody steals $15 dollars from you, you will be pissed ...

Here are couple points to consider:

* Don't try too hard, be cool, laid back
* Give out energy (share personal info, enthusiasm,...)
* "Show" yourself to others, e.g. share something from your personal and family life, what you like,...
* Be positive, smile here and there... Avoid negativity
* Don't criticize others, don't judge others
* Be genuinely interested in other people, in what are they doing, what is their passion...
* Don't ask too many personal questions (it's not a job interview). Who wants to tell you about them will eventually tell you what's important...
* See what you have in common - weight lifting? Collecting stamps? Its easier to make friends who have common interests, knowledge and hobbies
* See if some team sport is for you, e.g. you can make more friends easily in playing football vs in weight lifting
* Listen to others, remember some personal details what are they talking about. Come back to it in couple days or week...
* Make others feel important, don't dismiss them. Nobody wants to feel like a loser around you... People don't like being around others that appear "better" then themselves... People don't like being intimidated (for example, if you are very successful in college, you may have hard time finding friends among guys with average grades)
* Avoid arguments
* Avoid being too smart and knowledgeable (e.g. don't intimidate others with knowledge)
* Respect others (in order to get respect back)
* Don't talk crap about others (because they know you will talk crap about them too)
* Learn empathy
* Be sincere, be genuine


The list can go on and on, but good enough ...
 

skin_man

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jackoftades819 said:
I don't know what any of you mean by "value". Am I supposed to bribe people to get them to be friends with me? I think I'm good at conversation but people still don't want to hang out with me. Because they have more important friends. What am I supposed to offer them so I don't spend every weekend alone in my dorm?

Want to get friends?
Talk to everybody.

Start talking with the janitor, the security guard, the guy next door to you in your dorm or flat, the lady sitting next to you on a bus. Just talk to people.

What to talk about:
  • sports,
    clothes you like and how theirs make them look great,
    relationships like a friend who is dating someone and they know you or you helped them meet each other.

Value you can bring:
  • being a good listener (this is underated but its the firsg step to being great at conversation.
    Tease and ball bust some people who you think you feel warm towards. Thats how to build rapport. Avoid listening at no end, when you listen, recap and add something.
    Self disclosure is when you talk about yourself in the first person but avoid doing it for too long. It's okay when just starting in a conversation, but quickly revert to replacing your 'i's with 'you's. For example, "I'm ths kind of guy who listens to muic before he sleeps". Revert: "you know when someone is about to sleep and they put earphones in their ear to sleep with? You are looking at someone who does it a lot. " then ask how they like to sleep and let them fill you in abit
.

Keep talking to new people, the reason people aren't calling you is because as it is, you may be talking to only some people and leaving others out so they might be afraid of being snobbed by you. When you speak to everybody, be outcome independent. Which means do it just because. When you find you want to meet someone, get their contacts and begin calling them to hang out with YOU.

In the universe, you give out what you want to receive. So if you want people to call you for things, begin calling them for things... And don't be shy to ask them to do the same for you. Listen to their voices for tension and reactions thtlat make you see you did not caliberate or make your request at the right time and watch out to do better next time.

Also, stay www. girlschase.com and get more bits on any and all things social.
 

Lucky

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Basically as the dude said above me just talk a lot and listen but you have to get your fundamentals handled there are quite a few articles from Chase on that and just like the articles here on this website some of these tactics can be used to easily make friends like deep diving so basically as most of the people here have been saying you have to get out the there and make a name for yourself just like in those cowboy movies and remember when ever your out your just there to have fun cause not only is that going to bring you friends but it's a good rule to live by but you have to watch out with it near woman i because if your too playful it might just be your down fall in approaches so be careful read up and most of all get laid
 
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