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FR: Street Approach to First Date
Approach:
Met this girl on the same day that I met the girl in this report – in fact, this was the preceeding approach and my first of the evening.
www.skilledseducer.com
I was dressed super well, and I guess my vibe was really good, too – I wanted to go game at 5pm, but due to some work conflicts didn't get out till like 5:45pm. Immediately went out to go to a different part of town. On the walk over there, started walking alongside a very attractive woman, did my CW opener - I just started walking alongside her, and then looked at her and gave my CW opener. She smiled and laughed, very shyly. After asking about her day, she started pacing me <good sign of attraction> and mid conversation we went together into the subway and took the same train. I was lucky that she was going the same way, it allowed me to move her and seamlessly flow the conversation. She was extremely attracted to me so we kept talking and essentially was following my lead. I qualified her three times, got her number in the subway and suggested drinks this weekend, to which she agreed. I got off at the stop before hers.
She did text me back the next morning.
Here’s our text conversation leading up to the date:
ME: Hey Y, it's GP - Save my number
<NEXT DAY>
HER: Nice to meet you GP. Have a good day.
ME: Likewise!
ME: How was dinner in the LES last night - find a cool spot?
HER: It was not a sit down dinner place. It was just okay. How was your dinner?
ME: Mine was good - had some delicious french onion soup!
ME: Ah, was it a hole in the wall? What kind of food?
HER: That sounds yummy.
HER: A hole in the wall? I don't know that restaurant. We went to a cafe place. So it was just counter food.
ME: It was actually, a "hole in the wall" is a phrase for tiny restaurants with no seats
ME: I'd love to hear more over drinks soon! Currently Saturday or Monday evening are workable for me - are you free either evening?
HER: Tomorrow night I am meeting friends for going to a meetup and dinner after. Monday I work late. Do you have time tomorrow for a coffee?
ME: Unfortunately not free till tomorrow evening, going to my little nephew’s birthday all day. Are you available Wednesday evening next week?
HER: Sure. Next Wednesday works.
ME: Cool - how does 6:30pm sound to you?
HER: 6:30pm is fine with me.
ME: Awesome - I'll touch base early next week and we'll pick the place!
HER: Sounds great!!
ME: Enjoy your weekend, Y
HER: Thank you GP. You have a good weekend also and enjoy this spring weather. <flower?
We texted back and forth, her texts were responsive and warm. <I made one mistake in my texting here – she sent a very high investment text over the weekend and I did not respond to it… Right thing to text was “You too”>
Followed up Tuesday morning.
ME: Morning Y - did you get out and enjoy the spring weather and your dinner this weekend?
HER: Morning. I did. Weather has been so nice and I feel so happy about it. How was yours?
ME: Nice, glad to hear it! Busy weekend, but I had a fun time with my little nephews and niece at the birthday party
ME: How does <BAR> at <CROSSSTREETS> sound to you for drinks tomorrow?
HER: Glad to hear that you had fun with your nephews and niece. Sure sounds good. See you tomorrow. Still 6:30?
ME: Perfect - looking forward!
ME: I'll be finished by 6, so let's say 6:15-6:30, whatever's better for you
HER: Great. Let us say 6:30. See you tomorrow.
ME: That works great - see you tomorrow
HER: Liked “That works great - see you tomorrow”
Wednesday Anti-Flake:
I sent my standard anti-flake text, which is actually a suggestion to meet at an art gallery nearby instead. This has worked almost every time – usually the girls will agree AND show up, but if either the weather is weird or we have some weird situation like the Coronavirus, the girls will text me wanting to opt for drinks instead.
ME: Hey Y, there's an art gallery nearby I’ve been meaning to see. Want to meet there first before we grab drinks?
HER: Sure that sounds great. Where is the address of gallery?
ME: <Google Maps Link>
ME: See you this evening
HER: Great. 6:30 at the gallery?
ME: Yup, 6:30
With Coronavirus getting serious where I live, later she texted to change the plan.
HER: Hi GP. I just look up the address of the gallery. I feel quite concerned of the area where we will be. Do you mind we will just get a drink? There are confirmed cases in Midtown and we should avoid crowded places.
ME: Sure no worries, I'll see you at <BAR> at 6:30 then!
HER: Sorry about that again. I am quite panic because I work with children. I have to be responsible for those kids. See you at 6:30.
ME: Ah, makes perfect sense - and it's definitely a crazy time. Looking forward to hearing more
HER: Sorry I will be 10 mins late. <bunch of emojis>
ME: Take your time
Meeting on Wednesday Evening:
When we arrived, we met inside the venue as she walked in a different entry. I immediately gave her a kind of hug – but mainly, she gave me all of her frontal body and held herself close to me. It didn’t occur to me at the time, but this is important when girls do this – I could have used this to my advantage. I could have held her much more warmly and tightly, and then walked her over to the place we’re sititng.
We started the date, she got a ginger ale because she doesn’t drink, I got us one appetizer and a cocktail for myself. We sat on the same couch and me in the middle, her on the right side. She was about 6” apart from me, and instead of doing overt touch like I usually do, this time I just kept my hands all to myself pretty much the hole time.
Conversation started with a continuation of what we talked about when we met – she used to live in DC, now in NYC 3 years and still getting used to it. I asked what she does – she’s a teacher – and how she got into it. Somehow the conversation flowed into talking about psychology as well, which is a mutual interest. As she was describing how some of her kids don’t listen or behave, I transitioned into how adults are basically just grown kids – and often you can see the same behaviors in adults as kids anyway.
Used this to start setting non judgmental and discretion frames – comparing NYC to other places, and started delving into how men and women grow up differently, and how this influences their behaviors later on. I shared how sometimes kids who don’t grow up drinking or having sex, then want to experience these things really quickly and basically go crazy when they get to college. She used this to transition to her experiences in college and also in China.
At some point she said she’s 30, then said she didn’t know how old I am. I said nothing to this.
<Note: In retrospect I should have said “oh, no way, I thought 22. I’m actually older than you, but I look young.” Later this might have been an attainability problem.>
Over time I transitioned the deep diving about her growing up in China and going to get her Masters there, to the topic of sexual frames. We started by comparing Asian culture to that of my city, and how people in NYC are really non-judgmental whereas in China the men and older generation is critical of women’s choices. I delved into how this is really unfair to women and used that to move directly into sex talk – talking about men gossiping, women slut shaming, and me being super discreet about intimacy. Then I covered traveling and how I saw Cosmopolitan Magazine at the airport, and transitioned directly to the 8 orgasms routine.
A number of things happened here – she was listening and contributing intently.
She then mentioned that women’s drive increase in their 30s and laughed. I didn’t say much to this, besides saying that men are in fact perceived as sexual, but are in fact very emotional and vulnerable; and women are perceived as not that sexual and very emotional, but are in fact very sexual and extremely pragmatic.
<Note: I could have expanded here as well, more agreement with how women’s sex drives increase and she’s probably just starting to feel that too.>
She mentioned how usually you see a lot of white guys with Asian women, but not the reverse. She said maybe it’s because Asian guys are smaller, but then countered by saying something about how it’s the rhythm that counts, not how big a guy is. I mentioned that I’ve seen a lot more of the reverse type of couple recently, and that white girls do find Asian guys attractive, but they never approach them. She agreed by saying they’re shy. Then I mentioned that other girls have said how size isn’t as important as rhythm and the connection emotionally and physically – a guy can be really big but have no flow <she did this chill down her spine movement, as if she had a bad experience and knows this> or he can be average, or above average, and have a good flow and rhythm that really creates a cycle.
<Note: should have mentioned pleasure here>
After doing 4 out of the 8 orgasms, and we fractionated halfway, moved to a completely different topic.
Let ten minutes pass and then tried to pull (around 7:50pm) first asking about art, then proposing that we go have some tea at home, and check out my rooftop, and I can show her my art. She declined and said “maybe next time.” I persisted twice but then dropped it, settling at telling her that I’m having a great time with her, and also gave the one compliment rule.
Kept the date going by talking about music, jazz, photography, a bunch of stuff – she was still alert and seemed to be enjoying herself.
<WILL EXPAND LATER>
Venue 2
I did Venue 2 because my pull failed, so I thought I’d try to extend the date itself.
<Note: the extension and post analysis has given me a lot of insight into the problem, too>
Around 8:25 I asked her if she likes live music and we started to talk about jazz and her love for it. I talked about being a DJ in college and liking many different kinds of music.
<Note: maybe relate more to her love of jazz, build on this thread. Could also use this to suggest we go listen to some jazz. There’s a narrative I can build here.>
<Note: me saying I like many different music is less similar to her.>
We then got up soon after once the bills had been paid – in this case she split it without me suggesting.
Walked to second venue, my hand around her upper shoulder and walking at the same pace as her. She seemed to fit comfortably to my body for the most part, no real resistance here. Talked about travel and stuff on the walk over.
Unfortunately when we walked to venue 2, turns out they had no live music for the night, so the plan was a total dud. Instead I had us sit at the bar and ordered a drink for me and a tea for her.
This time I noticed that SHE was incidentally touching me during this venue, almost the whole time. We only stayed there around 45 minutes anyway, but I spent most of the time showing her my IG pictures and travel photos, as well as some of the stuff I do for work, which she took a lot of interest in. This I think brought us closer together – I noticed we were now very physically close, I barely had to lean in because she was already leaning in towards me and rubbing the left side of her body to mine.
<NOTE: Big missed opportunities here. One missed opportunity was reciprocating her touch – I should have put my hand on her thigh at least once. The second one is not using this to do a second round of sex talk – that could have sufficiently aroused her and I could have probably attempted a second pull, because NOW she was already comfortable with me. However, this approach could have also come off very needy, anyway.>
There was a point where the vibe broke and the high point was already there, and I had a gut sense that she was going to propose leaving soon – so I beat her too it and said I’m having a great time with her, but I need to get up super early tomorrow – to be at the airport at 6am – and get some sleep before that. She understood and agreed, and we left.
Again I walked holding her shoulder and her body just seemed to fit into mine.
At the very end by the subway stop, we disconnected and she said “Thank you for walking me to the train station, and have a safe flight tomorrow” and turned to face me. At the same time, I said “I had a great time with you,” and “Have a good night.” It looked like she wanted to kiss me, and she kept looking at me as I walked away, with a smile. I didn’t attempt to kiss her or anything, instead I just cupped her elbow and walked away.
But, I could tell she was really nervous in this moment. I could have held the tension here a little longer, or kissed her here. But I did neither – instead I opted to end this moment as fast as possible.
I think confusing her here had a mixed effect – my investment physically was lower than when we started, so that was bad. Also, it wasn’t clear to her whether I liked her or not. Thus I suspected that I had an attainability problem…
Next Morning:
I had a gut feeling that I had an attainability problem with her, and she didn’t text me the same night or the next morning. I had to travel anyway, but was worried about this – I decided to break protocol here and text her first, to try to offset this effect.
ME: I had a great time with you last night, Y did you get a good start at school this morning?
I didn’t get a response all day, so I thought I lost her. She also didn’t reply to my IG friend request, although I saw that she watched the IG stories that I posted while on my travels (and in which I looked super good). She didn’t reply until around 9pm my time (on the West Coast) meaning probably 12am her time. Was very relieved to see this, though.
HER: Sorry for this very late reply. It was very nice to meet you and thank you for the fun evening. I had a busy day and after I had a headache today. I think I am stressed with the Coronavirus situation. I will stop reading and thinking about it. Hope your travel is quite smooth.
<NEXT DAY>
ME: Oh no, that sounds awful. I know it's super stressful, especially how it's escalated this last week. Maybe that run in Central Park this weekend will help get your mind off things!
HER: Thank you. It is very nice today in NY. Will go for a park in the park.
ME: Lucky you, it's raining and cold in Southern California! Enjoy the walk today
HER: Thank you. Hope weather will soon be better for you.
I’ll reach out on Monday and try to set up a second date. I can clearly tell just by reading all this that I’m having an attainability issue with her – she doesn’t value herself to be on my level. Which means, I need to reassure her that I like her and build more comfort and connection with her.
Lessons:
Approach:
Met this girl on the same day that I met the girl in this report – in fact, this was the preceeding approach and my first of the evening.
FR+ - Instant Date with Tantra Girl
Approached a girl on the street with the CW opener, she already had noticed me earlier and turned warmly, smiled, and came to a stop. Immediately she turned to face me, then revealed that she’s spreading really good energy today and feels really good, because she went to a Tantric workshop the...
www.skilledseducer.com
I was dressed super well, and I guess my vibe was really good, too – I wanted to go game at 5pm, but due to some work conflicts didn't get out till like 5:45pm. Immediately went out to go to a different part of town. On the walk over there, started walking alongside a very attractive woman, did my CW opener - I just started walking alongside her, and then looked at her and gave my CW opener. She smiled and laughed, very shyly. After asking about her day, she started pacing me <good sign of attraction> and mid conversation we went together into the subway and took the same train. I was lucky that she was going the same way, it allowed me to move her and seamlessly flow the conversation. She was extremely attracted to me so we kept talking and essentially was following my lead. I qualified her three times, got her number in the subway and suggested drinks this weekend, to which she agreed. I got off at the stop before hers.
She did text me back the next morning.
Here’s our text conversation leading up to the date:
ME: Hey Y, it's GP - Save my number
<NEXT DAY>
HER: Nice to meet you GP. Have a good day.
ME: Likewise!
ME: How was dinner in the LES last night - find a cool spot?
HER: It was not a sit down dinner place. It was just okay. How was your dinner?
ME: Mine was good - had some delicious french onion soup!
ME: Ah, was it a hole in the wall? What kind of food?
HER: That sounds yummy.
HER: A hole in the wall? I don't know that restaurant. We went to a cafe place. So it was just counter food.
ME: It was
actually, a "hole in the wall" is a phrase for tiny restaurants with no seatsME: I'd love to hear more over drinks soon! Currently Saturday or Monday evening are workable for me - are you free either evening?
HER: Tomorrow night I am meeting friends for going to a meetup and dinner after. Monday I work late. Do you have time tomorrow for a coffee?
ME: Unfortunately not free till tomorrow evening, going to my little nephew’s birthday all day. Are you available Wednesday evening next week?
HER: Sure. Next Wednesday works.
ME: Cool - how does 6:30pm sound to you?
HER: 6:30pm is fine with me.
ME: Awesome - I'll touch base early next week and we'll pick the place!
HER: Sounds great!!
ME: Enjoy your weekend, Y
HER: Thank you GP. You have a good weekend also and enjoy this spring weather. <flower?
We texted back and forth, her texts were responsive and warm. <I made one mistake in my texting here – she sent a very high investment text over the weekend and I did not respond to it… Right thing to text was “You too
”>Followed up Tuesday morning.
ME: Morning Y - did you get out and enjoy the spring weather and your dinner this weekend?
HER: Morning. I did. Weather has been so nice and I feel so happy about it. How was yours?
ME: Nice, glad to hear it! Busy weekend, but I had a fun time with my little nephews and niece at the birthday party
ME: How does <BAR> at <CROSSSTREETS> sound to you for drinks tomorrow?
HER: Glad to hear that you had fun with your nephews and niece. Sure sounds good. See you tomorrow. Still 6:30?
ME: Perfect - looking forward!
ME: I'll be finished by 6, so let's say 6:15-6:30, whatever's better for you
HER: Great. Let us say 6:30. See you tomorrow.
ME: That works great - see you tomorrow
HER: Liked “That works great - see you tomorrow
”Wednesday Anti-Flake:
I sent my standard anti-flake text, which is actually a suggestion to meet at an art gallery nearby instead. This has worked almost every time – usually the girls will agree AND show up, but if either the weather is weird or we have some weird situation like the Coronavirus, the girls will text me wanting to opt for drinks instead.
ME: Hey Y, there's an art gallery nearby I’ve been meaning to see. Want to meet there first before we grab drinks?
HER: Sure that sounds great. Where is the address of gallery?
ME: <Google Maps Link>
ME: See you this evening
HER: Great. 6:30 at the gallery?
ME: Yup, 6:30
With Coronavirus getting serious where I live, later she texted to change the plan.
HER: Hi GP. I just look up the address of the gallery. I feel quite concerned of the area where we will be. Do you mind we will just get a drink? There are confirmed cases in Midtown and we should avoid crowded places.
ME: Sure no worries, I'll see you at <BAR> at 6:30 then!
HER: Sorry about that again. I am quite panic because I work with children. I have to be responsible for those kids. See you at 6:30.
ME: Ah, makes perfect sense - and it's definitely a crazy time. Looking forward to hearing more
HER: Sorry I will be 10 mins late. <bunch of emojis>
ME: Take your time
Meeting on Wednesday Evening:
When we arrived, we met inside the venue as she walked in a different entry. I immediately gave her a kind of hug – but mainly, she gave me all of her frontal body and held herself close to me. It didn’t occur to me at the time, but this is important when girls do this – I could have used this to my advantage. I could have held her much more warmly and tightly, and then walked her over to the place we’re sititng.
We started the date, she got a ginger ale because she doesn’t drink, I got us one appetizer and a cocktail for myself. We sat on the same couch and me in the middle, her on the right side. She was about 6” apart from me, and instead of doing overt touch like I usually do, this time I just kept my hands all to myself pretty much the hole time.
Conversation started with a continuation of what we talked about when we met – she used to live in DC, now in NYC 3 years and still getting used to it. I asked what she does – she’s a teacher – and how she got into it. Somehow the conversation flowed into talking about psychology as well, which is a mutual interest. As she was describing how some of her kids don’t listen or behave, I transitioned into how adults are basically just grown kids – and often you can see the same behaviors in adults as kids anyway.
Used this to start setting non judgmental and discretion frames – comparing NYC to other places, and started delving into how men and women grow up differently, and how this influences their behaviors later on. I shared how sometimes kids who don’t grow up drinking or having sex, then want to experience these things really quickly and basically go crazy when they get to college. She used this to transition to her experiences in college and also in China.
At some point she said she’s 30, then said she didn’t know how old I am. I said nothing to this.
<Note: In retrospect I should have said “oh, no way, I thought 22. I’m actually older than you, but I look young.” Later this might have been an attainability problem.>
Over time I transitioned the deep diving about her growing up in China and going to get her Masters there, to the topic of sexual frames. We started by comparing Asian culture to that of my city, and how people in NYC are really non-judgmental whereas in China the men and older generation is critical of women’s choices. I delved into how this is really unfair to women and used that to move directly into sex talk – talking about men gossiping, women slut shaming, and me being super discreet about intimacy. Then I covered traveling and how I saw Cosmopolitan Magazine at the airport, and transitioned directly to the 8 orgasms routine.
A number of things happened here – she was listening and contributing intently.
She then mentioned that women’s drive increase in their 30s and laughed. I didn’t say much to this, besides saying that men are in fact perceived as sexual, but are in fact very emotional and vulnerable; and women are perceived as not that sexual and very emotional, but are in fact very sexual and extremely pragmatic.
<Note: I could have expanded here as well, more agreement with how women’s sex drives increase and she’s probably just starting to feel that too.>
She mentioned how usually you see a lot of white guys with Asian women, but not the reverse. She said maybe it’s because Asian guys are smaller, but then countered by saying something about how it’s the rhythm that counts, not how big a guy is. I mentioned that I’ve seen a lot more of the reverse type of couple recently, and that white girls do find Asian guys attractive, but they never approach them. She agreed by saying they’re shy. Then I mentioned that other girls have said how size isn’t as important as rhythm and the connection emotionally and physically – a guy can be really big but have no flow <she did this chill down her spine movement, as if she had a bad experience and knows this> or he can be average, or above average, and have a good flow and rhythm that really creates a cycle.
<Note: should have mentioned pleasure here>
After doing 4 out of the 8 orgasms, and we fractionated halfway, moved to a completely different topic.
Let ten minutes pass and then tried to pull (around 7:50pm) first asking about art, then proposing that we go have some tea at home, and check out my rooftop, and I can show her my art. She declined and said “maybe next time.” I persisted twice but then dropped it, settling at telling her that I’m having a great time with her, and also gave the one compliment rule.
Kept the date going by talking about music, jazz, photography, a bunch of stuff – she was still alert and seemed to be enjoying herself.
<WILL EXPAND LATER>
Venue 2
I did Venue 2 because my pull failed, so I thought I’d try to extend the date itself.
<Note: the extension and post analysis has given me a lot of insight into the problem, too>
Around 8:25 I asked her if she likes live music and we started to talk about jazz and her love for it. I talked about being a DJ in college and liking many different kinds of music.
<Note: maybe relate more to her love of jazz, build on this thread. Could also use this to suggest we go listen to some jazz. There’s a narrative I can build here.>
<Note: me saying I like many different music is less similar to her.>
We then got up soon after once the bills had been paid – in this case she split it without me suggesting.
Walked to second venue, my hand around her upper shoulder and walking at the same pace as her. She seemed to fit comfortably to my body for the most part, no real resistance here. Talked about travel and stuff on the walk over.
Unfortunately when we walked to venue 2, turns out they had no live music for the night, so the plan was a total dud. Instead I had us sit at the bar and ordered a drink for me and a tea for her.
This time I noticed that SHE was incidentally touching me during this venue, almost the whole time. We only stayed there around 45 minutes anyway, but I spent most of the time showing her my IG pictures and travel photos, as well as some of the stuff I do for work, which she took a lot of interest in. This I think brought us closer together – I noticed we were now very physically close, I barely had to lean in because she was already leaning in towards me and rubbing the left side of her body to mine.
<NOTE: Big missed opportunities here. One missed opportunity was reciprocating her touch – I should have put my hand on her thigh at least once. The second one is not using this to do a second round of sex talk – that could have sufficiently aroused her and I could have probably attempted a second pull, because NOW she was already comfortable with me. However, this approach could have also come off very needy, anyway.>
There was a point where the vibe broke and the high point was already there, and I had a gut sense that she was going to propose leaving soon – so I beat her too it and said I’m having a great time with her, but I need to get up super early tomorrow – to be at the airport at 6am – and get some sleep before that. She understood and agreed, and we left.
Again I walked holding her shoulder and her body just seemed to fit into mine.
At the very end by the subway stop, we disconnected and she said “Thank you for walking me to the train station, and have a safe flight tomorrow” and turned to face me. At the same time, I said “I had a great time with you,” and “Have a good night.” It looked like she wanted to kiss me, and she kept looking at me as I walked away, with a smile. I didn’t attempt to kiss her or anything, instead I just cupped her elbow and walked away.
But, I could tell she was really nervous in this moment. I could have held the tension here a little longer, or kissed her here. But I did neither – instead I opted to end this moment as fast as possible.
I think confusing her here had a mixed effect – my investment physically was lower than when we started, so that was bad. Also, it wasn’t clear to her whether I liked her or not. Thus I suspected that I had an attainability problem…
Next Morning:
I had a gut feeling that I had an attainability problem with her, and she didn’t text me the same night or the next morning. I had to travel anyway, but was worried about this – I decided to break protocol here and text her first, to try to offset this effect.
ME: I had a great time with you last night, Y
did you get a good start at school this morning?I didn’t get a response all day, so I thought I lost her. She also didn’t reply to my IG friend request, although I saw that she watched the IG stories that I posted while on my travels (and in which I looked super good). She didn’t reply until around 9pm my time (on the West Coast) meaning probably 12am her time. Was very relieved to see this, though.
HER: Sorry for this very late reply. It was very nice to meet you and thank you for the fun evening. I had a busy day and after I had a headache today. I think I am stressed with the Coronavirus situation. I will stop reading and thinking about it. Hope your travel is quite smooth.
<NEXT DAY>
ME: Oh no, that sounds awful. I know it's super stressful, especially how it's escalated this last week. Maybe that run in Central Park this weekend will help get your mind off things!
HER: Thank you. It is very nice today in NY. Will go for a park in the park.
ME: Lucky you, it's raining and cold in Southern California! Enjoy the walk today
HER: Thank you. Hope weather will soon be better for you.
I’ll reach out on Monday and try to set up a second date. I can clearly tell just by reading all this that I’m having an attainability issue with her – she doesn’t value herself to be on my level. Which means, I need to reassure her that I like her and build more comfort and connection with her.
Lessons:
- Seems like overall an attainability issue, mainly because I did not match her investment.
- Talking about
- I didn’t make her laugh enough. Need to focus more on building the connection with my narrative. She was right on the fence.
- The incidental touch at the second venue that she was doing was a very good thing. I should have rewarded this more – all I did was get closer to her myself, but it might have been good to put my hand on her thigh for like 5 minutes here. That would have brought us closer.
- Given that I held her close in the beginning, but not at the end, this might confuse her and make her think that I don’t like her.
- It might have been worth a shot to try to persist in inviting her home AFTER the second venue. At this point, she was incidentally touching me, and she definitely felt more ready.
- I could have used a second round of sex talk to try to pull again, given that she was more compliant. However, this would have also been more needy.
- If I see her again, I really need to focus on building the connection and making her feel like I understand her. I also need to make her laugh much more.
- My gut told me I had an attainability issue with her, and I didn’t make her laugh enough. What do you all think – what was the missing piece? Maybe not Alpha or asshole enough?
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