LR Street Approach, Third Date Charm

[Grand Pooba]

This LR is my only one from October, and I got it on the 24th on the third date, about two weeks after first meeting her. Not every girl I get happens on Date 1 or 2, and so it was with this one – I’m glad I stayed strong and held out for her.


The Meet

It was a Thursday around 2pm and I had just finished up some meetings and lunch. I started walking home (I usually work from home) and about a block on my walk, passed a Chinese girl who gave me strong eye contact as she walked by. She had on a work uniform for a major department store in NYC which I was walking past – it looked like she was going on some kind of work break.

So after letting her walk by, I turned around and followed her into a little plaza where she sat down, and then noticed me again and smiled. I opened with “is this seat taken?” and just sat next to her and started a conversation. I learned quickly that she is indeed on a break, and I told her that I’m actually on my way to a meeting that would be starting in roughly twenty minutes – and it’s ten minutes away. We started talking about not working in corporate and how nice it is, where we’re both from and living in New York, and also touched into a bit of spirituality as she could sense something between us. Anyway, I excused myself after ten minutes to go make my meeting, but grabbed her number and suggested we grab drinks later in the week.



Date 1

I set up Date 1 for a Friday night; it happened to be a Friday where she was just getting off work from an event, and wanted to meet at around 6:30pm. Later this turned into 7pm as she was running late. I decided to go approaching between 5pm and the date, hoping to get a back up lead. Lo and behold, the first girl I approached happened to be visiting from LA for just the weekend, and we traded numbers with the idea of getting together for drinks later. She texted immediately and warmly.

While it’s good to have a back-up option here – and I’m sure I was extra outcome independent because I had this option – I was also distracted by this other girl, because I realized that I wanted to not invite my current date home and just end it after two venues, rather than try to go for the close. Maybe this was a good move, maybe it wasn’t, but in the end it played out well and my vibe was super non-needy, almost bored of her to be honest.

I took her to a nice hotel lounge that I’ve been meaning to try. We sat at the bar together and the date was spent with our legs touching. She showed a lot of interest, and talked 70% of the time. We spent most of this venue talking about work life balance, living in the city, and travel adventures and music festivals. I set discretion and non-judgement frames that I planned to segue into sex talk at venue #2. The drinks at this bar were spectacular, and from what I could tell she was having fun.

We then bounced to a second venue that usually has live music, but by the time we had arrived it was way too early. The girl and I settled for another round of cocktails. Here she asked me how old I am, and revealed she’s 34. I’m actually 32, but when facing an older woman it’s better to just lie sometimes and be at least close to her age – ideally her same age or older, to prevent any social reasons for her not to pursue you as a guy. Sometime in the middle of this venue I did the 8 types of orgasm sex talk routine, which she found alluring. While discussing that she started to hint that she’s very cautious and safe about sex, so I figured that she probably isn’t down with an invite home tonight anyway. Instead I called it off around 9:20 and told her I had to work early tomorrow morning, which she did too.

At the end of our second round of drinks it was around 9:30, and she had to go home to sleep for work the following morning (as she works in retail, there are still Saturdays involved). I walked her with her arm in mine from our venue, through Times Square, all the way to the subway which was ten minutes away. Instead of kissing her I gave her a tight hug and eskimo kissed her nose, and let her go.

When she got home she texted me that she had a great time and thanked me. That’s a very good sign for Date 2 already. In the end I heard back from the backup girl on the street, but was never able to meet up with her.



Date 2

For Date 2 I decided to do a cooking date at home – so sometime midweek I proposed this idea and she agreed. We met on a Saturday evening this time instead, as per my usual cooking date I met at the grocery store and we picked ingredients together. This gave me the chance to command her around and also help me find stuff. After walking around the grocery store and finding everything I paid for the food, then we walked to a liquor store and she picked some drinks to make, and we walked to my apartment.

Inside we spent the next hour cooking, and I broke the kiss barrier somewhere here, but also used the cooking to touch her lots. After an hour we’d made some decent tacos, as well as a gin & tonic based drink. I moved us to my table and we ate together. Then after food I proposed we watch a movie. Of course this led us to my bed, and I spent from roughly 9:30pm until 4am in LMR with this girl. We finished through one movie, plus a couple of episodes of Mr. Bean. After probably the third or fourth escalation attempt I learned that she’s on her period – and in retrospect that probably had a lot to do with her hesitation, because I could tell she was horny and having fun. I also told her I was having a great time, but couldn’t bust through. She kept telling me that she’s on her period and can’t have sex.

Unfortunately she had work the next morning, and even though we were hooking up and escalating in bed all night, sometimes even initiated by her, she didn’t sleep over and called an Uber at around 4am. I put on my clothes and saw her down, then wished her a good night and told her to text me when she got home. In the end we made out a lot but none of her clothes came off, and I didn’t even finger her.

It’s always risky when a girl comes over and you escalate, and she leaves without you penetrating her to sex. More often than not these situations just turn into failed escalations, and you’ll never see the girl again. In this one, she texted me that same night when she got home, and the next morning, telling me that she had a really great time with me.

So after that, I still felt like I had a shot at this.



Date 3 to Close

Finally I set up a third date the next week where I just proposed that we grab takeout and watch a movie at my home. This was a simple direct invite to home date. She agreed and we were to meet on Friday evening the day before Halloween celebrations – and this time she didn’t have work the next day.

It was a little tricky for me because I was to be flying out of town the very next day, and my flight was at 7am. However, I was also planning on changing my flight to leave later in the afternoon about 24 hours before (free of charge, it’s one of the privileges I have as a frequent flier) in hopes that I’d be able to sleep with her – and I changed it to a 1:30pm departure right before she came over, and didn’t tell her.

So she came over, I got some food delivered and we ate it together, then watched a movie and again I escalated on her. And once again, she kept giving LMR. This continued from around 9:30pm until very late into the night – I made three attempts during the movie before I started to get bored, and my attention started to wane.

There was still a lot of LMR by 12am at night, and yet it seemed like she was going to sleep over. I started to get really bored, and showed my disinterest by being quiet and keeping heavily to myself. She reacted by cuddling up more with me and kissing me more, and again I’d escalate and she’d turn it down.

At 1am I felt like the situation was hopeless – so I called my airline in front of her and changed my flight to a 7am departure – and told her that I’d need to get to the airport at 6am to make my flight, so she can sleep over but would have to leave at 5am. Sometime after this she started to talk about going home because I didn’t want her there, but I told her that I’m having a great time and she’s free to sleep over with me.

I continued to escalate but kept getting LMR, and just decided to shut off the lights at 2:30 and focus on sleep.

Finally around 3am she gave in – I was falling asleep and while she was cuddled up against me, I stuck my hand into her pants and panties on one more escalation as we were making out and started to finger her getting past her hands trying to block me – she was obviously extremely wet. After just five seconds she moaned and blurted out “do you have a condom?” I said yes, and then immediately stripped off my clothes and hers, and in another minute or so we were fucking. She was begging me to dominate her and hurt her, and fuck her so hard that she feels pain. I made her cum in the first round, which lasted a while and was really fun.

Around 4:30am after the second round, I decided that I wouldn’t be leaving at 5am, and she kept asking me about this to. “Are you gonna change to a later flight and fuck me all night?” So I called my airline again and changed my flight to a 11:30am departure. It was obvious we weren’t going to sleep, and from then until around 8:30am we spent the night fucking each others brains out with maybe an hour of sleep.

After releasing herself from her LMR, it turns out that she actually had a crazy sex drive, and all she wanted to do was fuck me – and for me to dominate the shit out of her. She was especially verbal about this, and I wore her out until 8:30am, when we finally had to get up so I could make my flight.

After packing up I called her an uber at 9:15am, then walked her outside, and kissed her as I let her go catch it, while I walked to a subway to get to JFK. I texted her on my flight that I had a great time, and she messaged back instantly.



Aftermath

I’ve seen this girl three times now and she’s turning into somewhere between an FB and an mLTR for me, the sex is great and she can’t get enough. All it seems that she wants to do when she comes over is have me fuck her until she’s sore and hurting, and sleep – that’s pretty much it. She barely texts and seems to be very low maintenance in that regard. I’ve also figured out how to give her multiple orgasms in quick succession and leave her completely winded at the end of our time together, which is more than any other guy has done in her life. Last time she came over we also went out for dinner across the street, which she bought and paid for me.

 

[Científico]

Nice job holding out here and getting the lay - I likely would have kicked her out much earlier if I had travel plans the next day. You show tremendous stamina, and patience! I always enjoy reading your reports since they are so easy to read and I get a ton of value.

Two comments/questions:

1.) One of things I am going to start to incorporate into my dates is sex talk, since I always seem to get LMR from many women after they come up to my apartment. I hope to reduce this by incorporating more talk about sex while they are having drinks with me. The "8 types of orgasms" bit has me thinking. Is this something you have used successfully in many dates? Any other routines you recommend? I am for sure going to review the stuff Alex wrote before my next date on this subject, but any insight you have would be great, particularly about those discretion and non-judgemental frames.

2.)

While discussing that she started to hint that she’s very cautious and safe about sex, so I figured that she probably isn’t down with an invite home tonight anyway. Instead I called it off around 9:20 and told her I had to work early tomorrow morning, which she did too.

At the end of our second round of drinks it was around 9:30, and she had to go home to sleep for work the following morning (as she works in retail, there are still Saturdays involved). I walked her with her arm in mine from our venue, through Times Square, all the way to the subway which was ten minutes away. Instead of kissing her I gave her a tight hug and eskimo kissed her nose, and let her go.

Very interesting. I had similar mindset when I did not invite a girl back up to my place, back in September, based on some of the things I heard her say previously - but then I got friendzoned as soon as I asked for date #2. There were likely other factors involved that led to this outcome, but part of my thinking was that I set the wrong frame by not being more sexually overt and instead making her think I wanted to be a boyfriend. After this I resolved to always go for the bounce-back. My question is, how do you know when to give a girl space and not go for the bounce back to your place? How do you best make this determination that she isn't ready and it's best left for a follow up date?

 

[cruiser]

Nice persistence man. Liked how you kept your cool. I found it so surprising that she was down to meet up for date #3. I usually involve the sex talk on date #1 as well which sets that vibe. On the first date how did you transition from a venue to another venue? And do you think if you asked her to come home with you that first date would that have ruined setting up date #2?

also great job on the third date from just texting her saying we’ll grab some grub but then we go back to mine after and watch so and so. I can never land a 2nd date only if I’ve slept with them.

 

[Grand Pooba]

Nice job holding out here and getting the lay - I likely would have kicked her out much earlier if I had travel plans the next day. You show tremendous stamina, and patience! I always enjoy reading your reports since they are so easy to read and I get a ton of value.

At this point there was really nothing left to lose by having her stay - I had already packed up and prepared myself to kick her out at 5am to make my flight. On the flip side, in doing this it also put some pressure on her to act and sleep with me while she still had the chance - the way I see it, it was a challenge to the girl to see if she could make me change the time again and fuck her all night, which I did.

1.) One of things I am going to start to incorporate into my dates is sex talk, since I always seem to get LMR from many women after they come up to my apartment. I hope to reduce this by incorporating more talk about sex while they are having drinks with me. The "8 types of orgasms" bit has me thinking. Is this something you have used successfully in many dates? Any other routines you recommend? I am for sure going to review the stuff Alex wrote before my next date on this subject, but any insight you have would be great, particularly about those discretion and non-judgemental frames.

Yes I try to use sex talk on almost all of my dates - it's a key for me to increase arousal, since I particularly struggle with coming off as too much of a boyfriend. On the SAC curve, I have a lot of S & C, but very little A. I think for most guys it's the other way around, lots of A & C, but little S. For these latter guys you'll see them sleep with women easily and quickly, but it'll almost always just be a ONS and nothing more; whereas for me, the girl likes me and she either makes me wait, or she feels I'm too nice and rejects me from not feeling arousal. So sex talk is meant to directly address the lack of arousal here. I will say that you can't just jump into sex talk without prepping her first (this is a difference between day game and night game) - you have to address her comfort, set the right frames before sex talk, and then also address FSC before it comes up. Night game you have more leeway to just slide right into sex talk like how Alek does it.

Discretion frames - I usually talk about how most guys gossip about their lays and conquests rather than leaving it discreet (and I peg myself as a guy who is very discreet about sex), and I also talk about how girls slut shame other girls for wanting sex, and how that's really unfair to women because they have a duality of wanting sex freely, yet being shamed by society for this desire.

Very interesting. I had similar mindset when I did not invite a girl back up to my place, back in September, based on some of the things I heard her say previously - but then I got friendzoned as soon as I asked for date #2. There were likely other factors involved that led to this outcome, but part of my thinking was that I set the wrong frame by not being more sexually overt and instead making her think I wanted to be a boyfriend. After this I resolved to always go for the bounce-back. My question is, how do you know when to give a girl space and not go for the bounce back to your place? How do you best make this determination that she isn't ready and it's best left for a follow up date?

Honestly still working on understanding this myself! In general I go for a first date pull if she seems like she's down for something fast, and I don't invite home if she seems more cautious. You have to pay attention to what she's saying and what her body language is saying. But again, this is a work in progress for me; I'll keep you posted!

Nice persistence man. Liked how you kept your cool. I found it so surprising that she was down to meet up for date #3. I usually involve the sex talk on date #1 as well which sets that vibe. On the first date how did you transition from a venue to another venue? And do you think if you asked her to come home with you that first date would that have ruined setting up date #2?

also great job on the third date from just texting her saying we’ll grab some grub but then we go back to mine after and watch so and so. I can never land a 2nd date only if I’ve slept with them.

Thanks!

On transitioning from venue 1 to venue 2, this is really easy. I just tell the during a pause in the first venue that I'm having a great time with her (for XYZ reason), and then if she concurs with me and says she's also having a great time, I'll tell her about a great place I know nearby that has ABC thing (in this case it was live music) and we should go grab another drink there and continue the evening. Having multiple venues IMO gives the experience of a longer, more involved date, which I think raises comfort, compliance, and how comfortable she feels about intimacy.

For this girl I think she would have said no to my invite home on Date 1, she's very sexual but also very cautious about sex.

 

[Hector Papi Castillo]

and I spent from roughly 9:30pm until 4am in LMR with this girl.

Jesus. Dedication.

We finished through one movie, plus a couple of episodes of Mr. Bean

LOL.

There was still a lot of LMR by 12am at night, and yet it seemed like she was going to sleep over. I started to get really bored, and showed my disinterest by being quiet and keeping heavily to myself. She reacted by cuddling up more with me and kissing me more, and again I’d escalate and she’d turn it down.

Good 'ol freeze out method. it works best when you're genuinely fucking tired of her bullshit. And you were. Then she gets all girly.

Fucking girls, man xD Love 'em.

At 1am I felt like the situation was hopeless – so I called my airline in front of her and changed my flight to a 7am departure – and told her that I’d need to get to the airport at 6am to make my flight, so she can sleep over but would have to leave at 5am. Sometime after this she started to talk about going home because I didn’t want her there, but I told her that I’m having a great time and she’s free to sleep over with me.

Super risky move, but it was DEFINITELY your lost shot with her and so you gotta do risky shit to get that biscuit. Probably could have handled it a bit better and not be bitter about it, and instead be like, "Well hey I think I should actually get there quicker cuz X and Y reason," but act like it's totally all good. Of course she'll know you're "punishing" her but it wont' be so obvious so she won't get so offended.

But you were sincere, which is important.


I've even had instances like this where I straight up tell a girl "Well I'm kinda sad you d on't want to fuck so I guess I'll stop trying"
and had this WORK.

Finally around 3am she gave in – I was falling asleep and while she was cuddled up against me, I stuck my hand into her pants and panties on one more escalation as we were making out and started to finger her getting past her hands trying to block me – she was obviously extremely wet. After just five seconds she moaned and blurted out “do you have a condom?” I said yes, and then immediately stripped off my clothes and hers, and in another minute or so we were fucking. She was begging me to dominate her and hurt her, and fuck her so hard that she feels pain. I made her cum in the first round, which lasted a while and was really fun.

Hahahahaa. It's always that ONE LAST TRY. Your brain goes "man...she's cuddling with u extra hard right now. I think this may be it. ONE MORE SHOT DAWG!"

And then it works.

And of course she's DRENCHED. Then, yeah, she wants to be used like a whore.

"What was all that pretending to not want my cock business about, then?"

Always love asking girls this.

Good shit, homie

Hector

 

[Grand Pooba]

Hector! Thanks man!

Jesus. Dedication.

Unfortunately! Once you start, can't stop till ya get it right?

Good 'ol freeze out method. it works best when you're genuinely fucking tired of her bullshit. And you were. Then she gets all girly.

Yeah, I think I was at that point where I just didn't care either way - if she keeps holding back, at that point it's her fault for not letting it happen!

Super risky move, but it was DEFINITELY your lost shot with her and so you gotta do risky shit to get that biscuit. Probably could have handled it a bit better and not be bitter about it, and instead be like, "Well hey I think I should actually get there quicker cuz X and Y reason," but act like it's totally all good. Of course she'll know you're "punishing" her but it wont' be so obvious so she won't get so offended.

But you were sincere, which is important.

Same story here - in my mind I was weighing the cost of continuing to battle LMR versus just getting to my destination earlier the next day - and in the end I started leaning to the latter, which she could probably sense.

I've even had instances like this where I straight up tell a girl "Well I'm kinda sad you d on't want to fuck so I guess I'll stop trying"
and had this WORK.

I've gotta try this, actually - great idea!

Hahahahaa. It's always that ONE LAST TRY. Your brain goes "man...she's cuddling with u extra hard right now. I think this may be it. ONE MORE SHOT DAWG!"

And then it works.

And of course she's DRENCHED. Then, yeah, she wants to be used like a whore.

"What was all that pretending to not want my cock business about, then?"

Always love asking girls this.

Also another good idea to frame it back on her in the end, LOL. Love it - I'm definitely gonna try that!

And yeah, to be honest I was surprised she gave in. It was literally going to be my last attempt before completely cutting her off, and the reason it worked is because I finally got past all her LMR and actually touched her pussy.