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zeroman2

Space Monkey
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Hi Beginner here

the story on how I missed out on two girls in one night

The first girl I met a week earlier at the bar. I was just standing by the wall waiting for my Uber to pick me up for the night. then she walk up to me and said something like "you look like you wanted to talk to me." I said something stupid like "I wasn't trying to talk but now that we are how are you doing" stupid I know. Then we had a brief conversation (like under 2 minutes). after words she said she had to meet her friend. when I got home I knew I struck out and thought i should be more sexual in a conversation because its seems like I'm framing myself more of a "nice guy" type. Anyway going into today I would at least try to move things faster.

When the night began I saw girl 1 and I ignore her because I figure since I struck out last week and it no use to try again. Then when I was sitting on the table she came sat across from me. she said something to me first then ask "are you enjoying your night" she said. I said "yes I am what about you" "no not really" she said "is there anything I could do to make your night more fun" I said. "no not really" she said. "my friend is over there I'm going to hang out with her" she said. "you don't have to leave so soon" I said "no I got to go". Then she walk away.

not even 5 minutes later another girl starting talking to me. She was with her best friend and said to me that she like my jacket. We started talking she ask a little about me before I started to deep dive. Found out that she in college and that she has family in the state I grew up at. Then I said something similar to what I said to girl 1. Something like "anything I could do to make you night more enjoyable" can't quite remember but it was something along those lines. then another guy just starting talking to me while I was taking to girl 2. it was only for a few seconds but afterword girl 2 started to walk away with her girlfriend. The guy said "I'm sorry didn't mean to make you lose the girl" I knew he wasn't sorry but I said " it's okay I think I was losing her anyway". So I went home tonight with nobody.

I need your guys help. I need you to break down everything I'm doing wrong and how can I improve and get better?
 

Fuck This

Cro-Magnon Man
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Well you know where you came up short. Change that on the next girl. Women are interested in you, so you have that going for you. You will find the right balance of Warmth and vulnerability and mystery after a while. Nice thing about nice guy game is that you don't blow them out by being overly aggressive and burn a bridge. Don't fret about not taking a girl home because you hadn't gotten to that part yet.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

zeroman2

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That what makes me frustrated sometimes. Knowing that you are so close to sealing the deal and start taking women home only to fall flat on your face. I got a hell of a lot better when it comes to realizing my mistakes. But then comes those days when I'm doing good then it goes bad and I don't know how the hell it went wrong.

since that day I realize I should have try to push for results, Flirt more, and don't try to entertain women.

I'm just saying its hard coming so close and never landing.
 

ElderPrice

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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What makes you think you were close to closing? Based on what you wrote, it sounds like you barely had conversations.
 

zeroman2

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Please tell what could I have done to make it better. I want to get better at this and start closing.
 

Scipio

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From what you said, it seems like you are lacking dominance and substance. I don't mean to start acting like a jerk and order girls around, quite the opposite. Good dominance is implied. "Anything I can do to make your night more fun?" communicates that you have no clue on how to make her night more fun, otherwise you would just do it, or even worse, that you are a slave or below her. Personally I like to be at about the same level of hierarchy for most of the interaction, only going higher about 10% of the times, when it's time to move the interaction forward, take her somewhere else, change subjects when the conversation isn't going anywhere, etc... From my limited experience, acting like you are higher than her at all times will get tiring and exhausting pretty soon, and will completely turn her off (unless she's crazy and completely damaged, maybe those girls can enjoy that lol). Think that you are a maestro conducting an opera and the girl is your subject. You just need to develop a plan, a method, which you will develop over time through trial and error and execute it, with adaptations, to each case. They are opening you hardcore and this makes your job 90% easier, no kidding! If you are smart about it, it's a massive compliance sign from a girl to open a guy. You must be pretty handsome, have a great style and great body language. Now just get a better feel for it with time and experience, let yourself go, have fun, read some new books to expand your mind and be a more interesting person (so you can have interesting conversations, instead of just subjects like where do you live?, what do you do etc? A girl gets instantly wet when she connects on an intellectual level with a charming guy, cool and sexy guy. (I really like Chase's article: How to be smooth everytime on this subject, check that one out!)

Keep it up bro, and best luck!!
 
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