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Space Monkey
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Hey!

Any advice would be highly appreciated. This is not only about pickup, dating or relationships but life choices in general. Since there seems to be a few people on this forum who have their shit together, then maybe someone can point me to a right direction too :) This topic is a bit of this and that, so please don't mind that I put this in a general folder.

I'm in my early 30s and seems I'm in a shitty place in my life. I'm quite depressed a lot of times and have pretty bad mood swings.
My girlfriend and I broke up now over a year ago. Everything in my life has went downhill after this. I took it really hard. We were together for two years. When I met her, I moved fast. I think I'm really picky with women. I have a certain type. Not that they need to be supermodels. But really they need to have certain physical traits in order it to work for me. And then for a potential relationship they of course need awesome personality traits as well. But I cannot even start anything if there's something off from my perfect scenario. For the first time in my life, I think I dug her from the first sight I laid eyes on her. She was almost perfect. Without really knowing it, I did everything really right with her, and within a month she was totally head over heels in love with me. She asked me to move in a few months later. It was an intense and very close relationship almost until the very end. I really fucked up in the end, so it ended. But also, she wasn't quite what she used to be in the end, when we met, so the moment she wasn't any more, I stopped putting my best foot forward too. She was even so attached to me, that even after my super beta behaviour for a few months after breakup, she was still hooked with me. But since I didn't have my act together any more at that point, then she left me for good. For our mutual, younger, "cooler" douchebag friend, to make things more stupid for me.

It was a motherfucker to get over. Not only I had the relationshit to get over, I also let her to walk all over me after it ended and really made a fool of myself in front of several people. My self esteem took a huge blow. I started to doubt everything in my life, all my choices and myself. I must admit I'm still not completely over the whole crap but I'm at least doing much better. Sometimes even great. Just when something other shitty is going on in my life (and recently there seems to be a lot of that), then that shit comes back to mind to hunt me.

I'm good looking. I look at least 5 years younger or more. I'm fit and well built. (Although I don't even know how I'm still fit as my lifestyle has been pretty silly lately:) I have accomplished quite a lot and built several brands and businesses a lot of people appreciate worldwide. But started to have problems with all of that now too and am completely broke now. Literally struggling to find money for food and rent. I made some poor choices recently and my associate fucked me over too and is really still getting on my nerves. Now I have all this career crap going on as well. Don't know if I should try to pick things up or just say screw everything and starts something new. I have built these brands for over a decade, so it's not something I can leave behind lightly but since things suck, maybe I should... On the outside they do great. But on the inside the work relationship with my associate is horrible and there's little money (at least for me). I never thought I'll find myself in such situation in my 30s. Most of my friends are owning homes, getting kids with their girlfriends etc. Not that I want kids right now, but just it's another thing that makes me feel as a failure.

So, I have all this crap going on in my life. Often feeling inadequate, no money, not young enough, not able to travel etc, feel stuck.

On another hand. Almost no one know about that about me, that I feel this way. I have still plenty of girls wanting me. Pretty hot girls that are in their early 20s, mid- 20s and late 20s. The whole spectre. I do occasionally hook up with a few but only mostly when I get drunk and then feel like it. I don't feel great most of the time, so don't bother to approach too many daytime. Also, my work currently doesn't allow me to meet lots of hot women. So I only meet people in night spots mostly. And the thing is that I feel shittier when I have hooked up with a girl who hasn't been a total ten. Because there's always something lacking. I look for some perfection (for me at least) and I never seem to find it. I know that I cannot settle in any way, I need to find someone who really knocks my socks off. Who would be absolutely intoxicating to look at, to feel deep connection. Otherwise I again stop putting my best foot forward at some point. But I never feel it. I know I might be still hung up on my ex. It's probably true in some way for sure. She is not even the same person probably and even her looks has changed and she is not my ideal any more. I haven't seen her for a while as well anyway. But what I'm stuck with is probably some early image of her that I need to top in order to want a girl.

But how can this even be. I know I need to be more social and hook up with others. To get through more numbers and closer to my perfect match. But I don't even want to hook up with anyone who doesn't completely 100% knock my socks off. What makes things more difficult is that I live in quite a small town and it's hard to be anonymous, so the word always gets around of my hookups. In this year after my breakup I literally only have had one night stands. Not that they don't want more. They do, but I cut them off. Ok, well I had three sort of two night (or so) stands, there I was the one who fucked up bit. They came back but by then I had lost interest. As it didn't seem natural any more... A few of them were even young models and even somewhat closer to my type. But not 100%. And so I didn't care. I probably have some trust and neediness issues as well caused by my breakup. It's easy not to be needy with a girl who is not your total 10. Probably other reason I have been mostly hooking up with 6s and 7s.

I seem fucked up.. And don't know what to do.
Part of me wants to take completely time off from girls and partying etc. To try to get my other life somewhat in order. get my shit together. So I would look really good, have some money in my pocket and then also feel good. But I'm getting older fast and don't want to spend my last younger years working my ass off being alone.
 
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Space Monkey
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I just read my entire post and made me realise what a fucking winy ass pussy I sound here. Already made me feel a bit better to vent it out :D
 

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Speaking from experience the few years after my divorce were a tough time for me, experienced work related problems due to low mood which was in turn due to a messy legal battle, family-of-origin conflict issues, a poor social life, neediness and dependence in my relationships (romantic or not), etc... a perfect storm of negative feedback and reference experiences coupled with enough of the shit being out of my control that all I could really do was ride it out. Sounds like where you are at brother. Well as for me it's only a year since that all started to turn around, and I LOVE my life right now so I am sure things will improve for you too. My takeaway from all this is, it all comes from your mood -- low mood makes a bad situation worse, good mood makes a bad situation insignificant and enables you to be philosophical no matter how objectively bad it is. I suggest doing things that will help to manage your mood such as gym, diet etc... NEXTing people who are bummers... not worrying too much about your seduction life as you seem to have that pretty much handled, but spending some time alone to just work on your projects and hobbies and try to convince your brain that you do not need others' external validation. Lots of affirmations and maybe some deep relaxation or similar exercises. Good time management. A plan to get your businesses on track and deal with partner. You don't need to be his best buddy, just need to coexist and get the shit done. Put some boundaries in place to prevent him and others walking all over you and explain what those boundaries are and stick to them. Overall I think your issue could be deep seated negative self beliefs, I have plenty of resources for this if u need. Overall just accept that the situation won't get better overnight, persevere and endure and tackle issues individually. Many small improvements = a big improvement and also tends to create positive feedback.
Ray
 

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Space Monkey
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Thanks a ton for reading my blabbering and your great feedback ray-horse. :)

I would love for some great resources for negative self belief and destructive self talk!

I have been following a bit of the work of this dude Corey Wayne. He's a regular dude but just his simple way of putting things seems uplifting and positive for me.
Mark Mansons articles seem great too.

But these self help shit can only take me so far :)

I was actually hitting gym quite hard at some point. Then I got so broke that couldn't even afford that. Probably didn't have the right priorities too I'm afraid. As I still seem to have money for partying, haha. Yes, getting really back into fitness would probably be a good idea. And try to stick with good diet as well. My food habits have been horrible lately. Probably compensating my shitty feelings.
 

Drck

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Based on my experience and reading text of other guys, I sort of start believing that love has its withdrawal symptoms, sometimes quite severe. It is like a long(er) term drug, at first it feels great for weeks or months, we feel high... than it starts cooling off, and finally the opposite happens - we feel miserable, depressed, down, unable to do anything with our lives...

This could last for years. I am proud to admit that my withdrawal lasted only 2 years. 2 long years of misery... However, I heard guys talking about even 20 years....

* One solution quite popular here is to simply switch your focus on another girls. It might work more or less, but it may not work all the time... Start dating and seeing other girls, you might get different thoughts. Develop Abundance Mentality, see if you can stop seeing her as the only one that is so special... After all, all of them are just girls...

* Time is the best healer, so simply suck the pain up, eventually it will go away... In the mean time see if you can focus again, see if you can work harder in whatever you do, build more business... Work could be a great healer, at least for people who are not used to suck up from the system...

* List all negatives on her, things that she could have contributed to the relationship but didn't. Get that perfect picture of her out of your mind, make her sort of unpleasant person in your mind... Make her negative person. For example, she changed her personality closer to the end, so she was pretending, even lying... She walked over you, and you made a fool out of yourself because of her... She was so attached to you that she sucked up all of your energy, now you are depressed because of her... Unhook the hooks, she is dragging you down...

* Get pissed at her, and at your past beta-bitch behavior. You have accomplished a lot but now you are broken, you don't have money for rent and food, people are pissing you off... WTF? How did one pussy took over your life? You did lots of mistakes, but hey, there is no one here who didn't... That's how we learn the best and the fastest, from mistakes, from painful experiences...

* At the same time it is a good lesson for future relationships. Think about all the pain she's caused you, of all the money and time you have lost because of you. Based on that, construct much stronger frame for future relationships. You need to have stronger frame with an of the girls you'll meet, no matter how sweet they are - otherwise you will end up like a beta bitch again...

* Get out of the self-pity mode, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Life is not pinkish all the time, Life simply sucks many times... Get used to it... It is what it is, you have a good time and now you are moving on. It's time to grab your balls and move on...

* Stop admiring your friends with great families. See them as losers, at least for a while, as they have to provide, work hard, take lots of crap from their wives... Most if not all of them behave like beta bitches, weak, submissive, compliant... It doesn't have to become your life philosophy, you can get married later on, but for now it can expand your horizon... So read about providers, white knights, saviors, there is plenty of material here...m

* Read Red Pill for a while, you'll find lots of things about women that you can relate to, that you can learn from...

*Chase has a good article about breaking up on the main GC site, forgot the name, something about rejections. Great read...


IMO the whole point is to start seeing the girl in a different light. You had a good time and now it is gone, she is still a great girl but it is no longer working out... You can learn lots of from your experience, that's good for future encounters... Use moderate approach, see it reasonably - you don't have to become extremist, you don't have to sleep with hundreds of women to get over this one, you don't have to become an asshole or become a Red Pill worshiper... Cut your losses and move on...

Good luck
 
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