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Space Monkey
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Went to the Starbucks in target on my 15min break. Really intended to approach but mostly worried about not getting kicked out. Idk if that’s an issue. I come almost every day. I feel very self conscious with the employees. It’s worse because I haven’t had a successful approach here yet. I want to come less but it’s so convenient and there’s always dimes here i swear to god. I saw one walking into the store in front of me, a ways off. I try to walk a bit faster but my nerves are a bit jangly. I smoked weed this morning. This is my last day before a weed break, I promise. I’m paranoid of a cop in the parking lot and I think the employees think I am a creep. I get in and see where she’s walking. I am about to follow her down the front but instead I turn and decide to see if I can casually catch her on my way around and pretend to be shopping. Well, I circled around back to the coffee shop and she had not moved beyond that point. She was looking at clothes with an employee, so I didn’t want to approach. I basically instinctively avoided it, but I think my instincts may be wrong and I need to just fuck it and approach in target again. I may be trying to be too discrete. I always try to circle around and it works, but I miss opportunities by not making a beeline the first time I see a hot chick. Well anyway I got the coffee and they do recognize me. I’m not sure how to be cool with the employees so there’s that also weighing on me. One of the baristas who’s gotten familiar with me is kind of cute and has a nose piercing so I feel like she would be interested just because of the sluttyness that indicates to me. I’m not sure if asking her out would be appropriate and I’m not that into her. I feel antsy and go the the bathroom while waiting for my coffee. I notice a cute cashier and make eye contact while she’s busy with a customer. Then when I get out she’s talking to a coworker. Possibly about me. Well, I just get my coffee and breeze past everybody. There may have been another attractive customer in sight but I wasn’t looking and I purposefully didn’t try check out the dime again.
 

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Space Monkey
space monkey
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Went to the Starbucks in target on my 15min break. Really intended to approach but mostly worried about not getting kicked out. Idk if that’s an issue. I come almost every day. I feel very self conscious with the employees. It’s worse because I haven’t had a successful approach here yet. I want to come less but it’s so convenient and there’s always dimes here i swear to god. I saw one walking into the store in front of me, a ways off. I try to walk a bit faster but my nerves are a bit jangly. I smoked weed this morning. This is my last day before a weed break, I promise. I’m paranoid of a cop in the parking lot and I think the employees think I am a creep. I get in and see where she’s walking. I am about to follow her down the front but instead I turn and decide to see if I can casually catch her on my way around and pretend to be shopping. Well, I circled around back to the coffee shop and she had not moved beyond that point. She was looking at clothes with an employee, so I didn’t want to approach. I basically instinctively avoided it, but I think my instincts may be wrong and I need to just fuck it and approach in target again. I may be trying to be too discrete. I always try to circle around and it works, but I miss opportunities by not making a beeline the first time I see a hot chick. Well anyway I got the coffee and they do recognize me. I’m not sure how to be cool with the employees so there’s that also weighing on me. One of the baristas who’s gotten familiar with me is kind of cute and has a nose piercing so I feel like she would be interested just because of the sluttyness that indicates to me. I’m not sure if asking her out would be appropriate and I’m not that into her. I feel antsy and go the the bathroom while waiting for my coffee. I notice a cute cashier and make eye contact while she’s busy with a customer. Then when I get out she’s talking to a coworker. Possibly about me. Well, I just get my coffee and breeze past everybody. There may have been another attractive customer in sight but I wasn’t looking and I purposefully didn’t try check out the dime again.
I would prefer the cashier over the barista if I had to choose. There’s a couple cuties in customer service desk but their schedules seem to be less consistent.
 

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Space Monkey
space monkey
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Questions:
I’m wearing office clothes and using my usual artist pickup line. It seems to be a problem, what can I do about that? I honestly will keep using it for now. But maybe a situational opener is called for.

should I go for the cute employees? The customers are way hotter tho.
 

Stark

Cro-Magnon Man
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I hope you haven't quit your job to focus on PU. If you're getting breaks like these, there's no need IMO.

I saw one walking into the store in front of me, a ways off. I try to walk a bit faster but my nerves are a bit jangly. I smoked weed this morning. This is my last day before a weed break, I promise.

It's the weed causing all sorts of anxiety. Good choice to lay it off.

I may be trying to be too discrete. I always try to circle around and it works, but I miss opportunities by not making a beeline the first time I see a hot chick.

I read through your journal. I did a bit of troubleshooting for you - your approach seems to be a one-liner usually upfront without any pre-open or using the 3 part opener that gets the girl to absorb you before giving a reaction.

As Chase mentions in the above articles, the one-liner approach gets a knee-jerk reaction from girls, with a low success rate.

Think about this:

Scenario 1 (One Liner approach)
Imagine walking up to a girl, delivering the one-line opener, and waiting for her response - which usually puts her under high pressure to give a knee-jerk reaction.

It's high stakes. This will make you anxious. And can look a bit odd to the staff at the store(if you're rejected).

Scenario 2(3 part opener approach)
Imagine you walking up to a girl at Target, she relaxes with you, both of you are having a good conversation, she's laughing and happy. If you knew this was the outcome, you'd feel at ease chatting up girls even with store staff around you.

I was stuck in Scenario 1 for years till a coach pointed this out to me in-field.

I also saw a wing of mine (who's short and not good-looking) going into sets with massive social freedom and a high percentage of sets getting to hook point. He used a variation of the 3 part opener he invented.

I switched to using the pre-open and reality pacing method suggested in Chase's articles above.

It took away the anxiety and pressure of others looking at me.

Best of all, I now have a higher successful open ratio than ever before - even in street game which is a bit more chaotic usually.

I feel very self conscious with the employees. It’s worse because I haven’t had a successful approach here yet. I’m paranoid of a cop in the parking lot and I think the employees think I am a creep

Maybe at a subconscious level, you might have a belief that you're doing something wrong by trying to approach & seduce women. You probably want to write this down and introspect a bit.

From a store staff POV - you're just a man who's attracted to hot women(who isn't) and wants to chat them up and have sex - that's normal.

Some of them probably wish they had the balls like you did.

Don't hide being a player.

OWN IT.
 
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