Im so use to always applying for the boyfriend position that women want to wait and nothing happens. I read most articles by Chaste. This article hit me hard. Knocked the wind out of me. How do you stop letting girls put u in the bf position. You have to be confident,let her know u dont want to be her bf, lead, fast escalation, push for close. Will a woman test u and try to put u in the bf position even though ur going for hookup position?
Telling Women You're NOT Boyfriend Material article questions
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Women give me the FU eyes but I mess up and start the bf vibe. its like an auto response in my body. If im escalating and she rejects me/says no I fizzle out. Im just not use to pushing for the close. How do u consistently push. Also I moved back in my parents. So i can either close her at her place or my car. Clsing in car?
Like ill hold her hands when walking. Tell her she is my woman. Tell her about my dreams, my goals. Bascially im qualifying for the boyfriend position. ill come on fast and she likes it but she is like slow down or backs up. ill get to know her and make a move but she gets turned off. sometimes she gets turned off cause she tested me and i start explaining myself or start to get to know her and she loses interest. its like she is saying F me already. when i try to escalate she rejects it. this is hard
The thing is she is waiting for me to take her. its like the more i talk the more she loses interest. idk how to describe it. when i do what she wants me to do, she tests me, than i go into seeking approval, she loses interest, than i escalate, she says no, i start explaining myself. she loses more interest. i had women go off at me, start fights with waiters. the only reason im assuming these women are fighting with waiters around me while on a date is bc im not man enough to close her.
like one e.g. was in harlem lounge called red rooster. two big black girls with one hot latina. I say hi to the latina cause she was looking at me. She turns around and says watever. So Im decide to leave. She goes off at me that I have no manners and im just gonna leave like that? Im thinking like wtf, she didnt even reply back and ignored me. So than her friends go off at me. So im like ok ill talk with her. I talk with her and say we should hangout and turns around again and says maybe. its like my mind is wtf do u want?
when i try to get to know these girls they loose interest. I had women come up to me aggressively and touch me. At first i was like wats going on cause i never got accepted by women. Now i have one all over me and im like trying to figure it out. so i start leading by talking abt her fav tv show, how long she has been here, was she born here, wat does she do for work, and i can tell she is like just F ME already. Am i making sense? They want me F them but when i try to escalate slowly they say no and avoid me like the plague once i get into my head. Chaste mentions about attraction window clsoing. Its like if I dont close them, they avoid me like the plague. Its like they are embarrassed i didnt F there brains out. My look is rebellious like jason momoa in game of thrones while my approach is like kevin james in hitch or steve carrell in crazy stupid love. Is this making sense?
like one e.g. was in harlem lounge called red rooster. two big black girls with one hot latina. I say hi to the latina cause she was looking at me. She turns around and says watever. So Im decide to leave. She goes off at me that I have no manners and im just gonna leave like that? Im thinking like wtf, she didnt even reply back and ignored me. So than her friends go off at me. So im like ok ill talk with her. I talk with her and say we should hangout and turns around again and says maybe. its like my mind is wtf do u want?
when i try to get to know these girls they loose interest. I had women come up to me aggressively and touch me. At first i was like wats going on cause i never got accepted by women. Now i have one all over me and im like trying to figure it out. so i start leading by talking abt her fav tv show, how long she has been here, was she born here, wat does she do for work, and i can tell she is like just F ME already. Am i making sense? They want me F them but when i try to escalate slowly they say no and avoid me like the plague once i get into my head. Chaste mentions about attraction window clsoing. Its like if I dont close them, they avoid me like the plague. Its like they are embarrassed i didnt F there brains out. My look is rebellious like jason momoa in game of thrones while my approach is like kevin james in hitch or steve carrell in crazy stupid love. Is this making sense?
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Firstly, huge props to radeng for the usual illuminating and patient advice. Honestly, I was going to make some snarky comment, which probably would've been counter productive, but radeng explains the issues very well -- how you go about seeking help is really important. I just wanted to say one further thing based on my own experience, which is that Chase's (note spelling -- it's Chase not Chaste) ebook is an incredibly useful resource for a beginner to seduction concepts. Compared with the articles it's slightly less evolved and much less detailed, but this is a good thing, because the idea of the ebook is basically to give you a proper skeleton to hang further learning from.
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