Tempted To Use Prostitutes SMH

[Troy]

I had to get this off my chest. Since 2021, I have seen 3 prostitutes. One back in late February. One I think in September and another last week Wednesday December 15th.

Long story short, I have not slept with a non-working girl all year long and I feel rusty as fuck. I have been going through a rough time lately. Ever April 6th, which is my Birthday, I feel extremely depressed. My last birthday I turned 25 years old and I looked at my life and all I could say was "fuck dude you ain't where you wanna be".

Before I go any further, I will take a moment to congratulate myself for all that I have achieved this year. I have accomplished the following:

January to February

1. Redesigned my marketing agency websites (still new).
2. Started the theory lessons on driving an automatic vehicle

March to May

1. I completed the theory of driving, did the road lessons.
2. At the end of April, I failed the first driving test. I could not get the car to go over the hill, but on my 2nd attempt, I passed and got my drivers license.
3. I completed registration for my US VISA (yep I have never been to the US before). But one day I plan to visit.

June to August

1. After years of testing and advertising on Google, I went ahead to take Google's exams and I am happy to say I am 100% Google certified: Search, Video, Display, Youtube, etc.
2. I also excelled at becoming a Hubspot partner and garnering multiple certifications with them. I have been working with Hubspot for 4+ years so thought this was the right opportunity to level up even more.
3. I expanded my freelancing startup career. I even got accepted on Upwork.com to do freelancing gigs. That was a tough one to crack but I did

September to November

1. I passed Microsoft's requirements as a budding marketer and I'm happy to now be a certified Microsoft Marketing partner. I've also freelanced with multiple persons in the past and advertised on Bing search.
2. I completed my 3 years of study in high end sales with one of the world's most popular online sales schools. This is my biggest achievement to date and I am happy I did it. This school is recognized by some of the world's most elite companies who hire salespeople. So I am proud of myself.
3. I completed my Linkedin certification. I've been on Linkedin for years and one of my mentors is a pro at Linkedin so I learnt a lot from him before going down this path. Hurray!

So those are my achievements in a nutshell. But there is one huge problem. All of this work without no pussy has made me hella desperate going into the Christmas holidays.

I got a confession to make, this might sound hella mean and weird to some. And I am sorry in advance if this offends anyone. In 2020 during the pandemic, I was hella more comfortable then than now. Since the world has opened back up, I have been feeling the FOMO more and more.

It's kinda hard to explain. But I felt more at peace when the world was shutdown. Why? I am an introvert and I have spent most of my life living in lockdown. There are countless weekends I have just spent at home working on my skills so I can make more money and finally move out of my parents house. Pre-pandemic was rough for me.

(These articles explains better what I am feeling when there was a full blown pandemic, if anyone is curious:

Have introverts really fared better in lockdown?

Popular opinion has it that introverts are thriving in lockdown – but studies paint a different picture.

theconversation.com

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...lockdown-is-a-chance-to-play-to-our-strengths

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/introverts-are-dreading-a-return-to-the-noise-crowds-and-small-talk-of-normal-life/2021/04/09/386006b0-987b-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

A lockdown is my natural habitat in a nutshell, partially due to income constraints and also my personality)

I recall many Friday evenings I got paid and by Saturday morning I was broke. Literally 60-70% of my income was just enough to pay the bills and put food on my table until the next fortnightly pay. While I have slept a few girls over the years, my sex life has been pretty much been filled with months of forced celibacy. And I honestly found it a waste of money to take random girls on dates and at the end of the night not get laid.

What I did was take that remaining 30-40% of my income and I invested it on developing my high income skills over the years. Believe you me, I have come a long way, I am proud of my accreditations. But I also at the same time sad about how much girls I missed out on.

Lol I think I am rambling on a bit now. So back to the title of this. Yes I have spelt with 3 prostitutes this year (with a condom of course). But I have a hard limit. And to be honest, my experience with prostitutes has not been good.

I probably have had sex with 7-11 prostitues over the past 5 years. Honestly the way most of them have treated me as a client, it has made me feel disgusted immediately after seeing them. They have done the following to me:

1. We agree the sex will be 30 minutes and even after I cum the first time, they will work with the time. Literally the moment these girls get the money, they think they can do whatever the fuck they wanna do. The girl I saw last week, we agreed on 30 minutes and in the end, I probably got 15 mins of sex. And I didn't even get to cum.

2. Some prostitutes be rushing me to cum. Before I found out that these girls bill based on when I cum, I learnt the hard way. One lady I bought a blowjob from, told me the blowjob would be 15 minutes. This girl did some crazy things with her tongue that night, I did not even last 3 minutes. And when I went to change the condom she demanded me to pay her more money to continue to the 15 minutes. I just got up, pulled up my pants and left.

Sorry, not sorry, I aint paying a chick twice to cum another time. That money is to be invested in my business so I can improve my situation and start sleeping with more non-working girls. The cost of prostitutes in my country is much lower than the US. So since most persons here are familiar with the US dollar. Imagine paying a girl $1,000 USD for 30 minutes of sex. And you cum in 3 minutes. And she looks you dead in the face and says you gotta pay $1,000 USD more in order to go another round of sex. Would you do it?

I sure ain't. I would rather masturbate to porn then get right back to working on my finances.

3. For some strange reason, many of the prostitutes I have seen ask me "are you a soldier?". They seem to think that soldier men pay way more money than other men. I ain't never been in the army. Another thing, these prostitutes cannot be trusted at all. It is their job to lie to customers to get the money. But the moment they got the money, they think they got all the power. And the reality is they do, because a guy like me is never going to raise my hand and hit a woman. I will just leave. If they tried some of the things they did with me, to other men, it would not turn out too good for them. Im just saying.

I just had to get this off my mind. This topic is so taboo, I cannot even talk to friends about it.

Even though I have had these bad experiences above with prostitutes, I still want to go back. Last night I got off vacation and I was thinking to try online escorts instead. But I said NO. I just masturbated and went to bed. All in all, I don't really have any questions in this post.

Im just going through a dry spell right now, that even prostitutes are looking way more attractive than they really are. I just really hope that going into 2022, I can use my newly acquired skills to go after a higher paying job or go further in my startup company.

Honestly, it is just the finances that is preventing me from going out and dating more. Not having my own car, especially in my neighborhood where 90% of people drive. Buses are 100% unreliable. You would have to be damn near God to keep a woman interested in you while you wait on a bus in my neighborhood. Which can take 1-4 hours just to show up. And taxis are a bit on the pricey end too, with my current income.

And living at home with Mom and Dad still at 25 is a chaotic situation. There is more I could discuss, but that's not the point of this post. This is just a reflection post of my sex life, my accomplisments, and my goals for 2022.

I have 1 major goal for 2022. And that is to triple my income so I can finally move out into my own apartment. And get a nice car. So I can finally afford to date more comfortably. Because trust me, hiring an escort is never a good experience. Make me feel yucky at the end.

 

[Toby2030]

I hope it's okay I'm a little harsh. It seem like you postpone the tasks you really have to do. I respect the hustle that you have done all of those certifications and that you want an apartment, but are those tasks taking you closer to your goal, or are you doing them because they make you feel like you are moving closer towards your goals, while you avoid the tasks you maybe fear?

I'll leave the business side out of it and focus on your woman problem - if you want to succeed with woman, you should talk with more women. Not earn more money. If you really want to get this area of your life handled, then drop your certifications, and commit to 20 approaches every week. You don't have to pull to your location, there's a lot of other opportunities.

Set some weekly goals, that could look like this:

• I will do 20 approaches every week
• I will use 2 hours to research my primary sticking point and find solutions to solve it
• I will write down my weekly approach break down + 1 FR from the transition phase where I lost the most girls

** If you do not reach your weekly goal. Then reflect on the following:

• What did you feel that held you back? **If because of anxiety, what made you feel that way?**
• What need improvement and what concrete steps will you take to improve and make reaching your goals easier?

Break down your weekly approaches

In which transition phase did I lose most girls, and what went wrong?

• Approach to hook-point?
• Hook-point to date or hook-point to isolation?
• Date to pull or isolation to pull?
• Pull to sex?

How to Master Transition Phases and Be Smooth with Women

When it comes to bedding women, getting from Point A to B can be rough. Learn to handle the key transition phases and the process will go a lot smoother. Ever had a girl respond positively to your opener, maybe with sparkling eyes and a bright smile — yet the interaction fizzles out before you...

www.girlschase.com

Which advice, tactics or techniques can I use to overcome my problem?

How can I make the advice, tactic, or technique actionable?
** Once you know what to do in order to make it actionable, you add it as a goal for next week.

Write ALL of this down in a journal on the site and make more skilled people help you on the way.

I will personally suck your cock if you do the above the proper way and you don't get results within 6 months.

 

[Troy]

I hope it's okay I'm a little harsh. It seem like you postpone the tasks you really have to do. I respect the hustle that you have done all of those certifications and that you want an apartment, but are those tasks taking you closer to your goal, or are you doing them because they make you feel like you are moving closer towards your goals, while you avoid the tasks you maybe fear?

I'll leave the business side out of it and focus on your woman problem - if you want to succeed with woman, you should talk with more women. Not earn more money. If you really want to get this area of your life handled, then drop your certifications, and commit to 20 approaches every week. You don't have to pull to your location, there's a lot of other opportunities.

Set some weekly goals, that could look like this:

• I will do 20 approaches every week
• I will use 2 hours to research my primary sticking point and find solutions to solve it
• I will write down my weekly approach break down + 1 FR from the transition phase where I lost the most girls

** If you do not reach your weekly goal. Then reflect on the following:

• What did you feel that held you back? **If because of anxiety, what made you feel that way?**
• What need improvement and what concrete steps will you take to improve and make reaching your goals easier?

Break down your weekly approaches

In which transition phase did I lose most girls, and what went wrong?

• Approach to hook-point?
• Hook-point to date or hook-point to isolation?
• Date to pull or isolation to pull?
• Pull to sex?

How to Master Transition Phases and Be Smooth with Women

When it comes to bedding women, getting from Point A to B can be rough. Learn to handle the key transition phases and the process will go a lot smoother. Ever had a girl respond positively to your opener, maybe with sparkling eyes and a bright smile — yet the interaction fizzles out before you...

www.girlschase.com

Which advice, tactics or techniques can I use to overcome my problem?

How can I make the advice, tactic, or technique actionable?
** Once you know what to do in order to make it actionable, you add it as a goal for next week.

Write ALL of this down in a journal on the site and make more skilled people help you on the way.

I will personally suck your cock if you do the above the proper way and you don't get results within 6 months.

Yeah its ok to be a little harsh. If there is some shit on my face, I dont like when people butter it up and say "got some chocolate on your face". I want the truth as long as it is respectful.

I hear what you are saying. Dude, honestly I feel empty right now. Its 10:11PM and I got less than $20 to my name to last me till I get paid Friday. Shit be difficult when Im this broke. Im glad I got over the education phase. But damn, this Christmas and New Years seems to be another lonely one for me.

I will read over what you said later on again after my emotions have cooled down. Right now, I feel nothing but emptyness inside. It would be great to just watch a nice movie with a cute girl in my arms now. But all I might end up looking at tonight is another porn video before I get up tomorrow and start working this dead end job again.

I will think about what you said though. You may find some of this reply edited soon as well.

 

[Skills]

I don't understand if you are financially broke is the worst idea to get prostitutes... unless a crakhead one in the ghetto...It seems you need more "getting life together" focus even at minimal level.... You don't have it in you based on your post to game broke, some guys can do it, some can't cause they get in their heads, so just work on "lifestyle" for now... Cause it seems that you are in "fight or flight response" so get your life together to at least live level...

 

[Troy]

I don't understand if you are financially broke is the worst idea to get prostitutes... unless a crakhead one in the ghetto...It seems you need more "getting life together" focus even at minimal level.... You don't have it in you based on your post to game broke, some guys can do it, some can't cause they get in their heads, so just work on "lifestyle" for now... Cause it seems that you are in "fight or flight response" so get your life together to at least live level...

I agree with you.

I am from the Caribbean and salaries are typically lower here than in the US or other first world countries. So the prices for prostitutes may seem lower than the US. I heard guys spending $350 for an hour with a US escort. Here, the market can bear so much. On the low end, prostitutes charge $20 USD for $15 minutes. Some girls charge medium price $40 USD for 15 mins which includes bj and sex. And then the high end girls charge $60 for 15 mins.

I remember clearly it was after Valentines Day and I had went out to meet girls and got no booty and I was masturbating almost every night and then the last weekend before March, I just said "fuck it, I need to hit the reset the button". And I grabbed some cash and went out. I found this super cute, early 20s dark girl. She had hella booty and a nice curve. To date, she the nicest I ever seen working.

A side story, some of these escorts out here be so hella overweight and unattractive. Im talking 250lbs and upwards. Even if I was tired of masturbating, if I ever seen any of them hollering at me, I would just go straight home and masturbate. Even when I am buying, she gotta look at least decent and be in shape. I just cannot go down in looks beyond a certain level.

Anyways enough with the story. Yes you are correct @Skills I dont have it in me to game broke. I tried it, but there are so many problems I face doing it, I usually end up not sealing the lay. Logististics are fucked up on another level.

When you say work on "lifestyle", what do you mean?

 

[0---]

Guys above are spot on.


Just STOP going to prostitutes. You can give yourself better orgasms than the shit you describe for free.


Plus you need that extra bit of horniness from not getting pussy to drive youraelf to get laid.


Plus it's a waste of money you don't have much of.


Just stop.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

1. I passed Microsoft's requirements as a budding marketer and I'm happy to now be a certified Microsoft Marketing partner. I've also freelanced with multiple persons in the past and advertised on Bing search.
2. I completed my 3 years of study in high end sales with one of the world's most popular online sales schools. This is my biggest achievement to date and I am happy I did it. This school is recognized by some of the world's most elite companies who hire salespeople. So I am proud of myself.
3. I completed my Linkedin certification. I've been on Linkedin for years and one of my mentors is a pro at Linkedin so I learnt a lot from him before going down this path. Hurray!

Chiming in on the business side because it’s also been a focus of mine this year.

Some tough love but all these certifications are a waste of time. Like DML said it makes you “feel” like you’re making progress rather than actually making progress.

If you’re starting a marketing agency after you’ve:

1) Learnt a new skill e.g. Bing Ads

2) Built your website / Upwork profile

The rest of your time should be spent on signing new clients for that new skill. It’s the boring, gruelling, unsexy 100 cold emails/calls a day and getting ignored most the time work.

Your first clients will be low cost/free so you can get testimonials and command higher prices.

(“$100M offers by Alex Hormozi” is the easily the best book I’ve read on setting up good offers.)

I suspect you know what you need to do and are avoiding it (hey I’m guilty of it too) but that’s what needs to be done.

That’s what separates people who make real money within 6 months’ to “wanapreneurs” who’ve been to all the webinars, have all the certifications but are still broke.

Decide who you want to be then act accordingly.

 

[Troy]

Chiming in on the business side because it’s also been a focus of mine this year.

Some tough love but all these certifications are a waste of time. Like DML said it makes you “feel” like you’re making progress rather than actually making progress.

If you’re starting a marketing agency after you’ve:

1) Learnt a new skill e.g. Bing Ads

2) Built your website / Upwork profile

The rest of your time should be spent on signing new clients for that new skill. It’s the boring, gruelling, unsexy 100 cold emails/calls a day and getting ignored most the time work.

Your first clients will be low cost/free so you can get testimonials and command higher prices.

(“$100M offers by Alex Hormozi” is the easily the best book I’ve read on setting up good offers.)

I suspect you know what you need to do and are avoiding it (hey I’m guilty of it too) but that’s what needs to be done.

That’s what separates people who make real money within 6 months’ to “wanapreneurs” who’ve been to all the webinars, have all the certifications but are still broke.

Decide who you want to be then act accordingly.

I will check out that book thanks. I believe the final step I had to take was to complete my sales certification. I spent the last 3 plus years honing my sales skills. The sales academy I am apart of, did cost me a pretty penny every month for the past 3 plus years. That and other investments is basically where all my business profits went towards.

You are right about the cold calling and getting the clients. Now that I have completed my Advanced Sales certifications, I now have the #1 skill needed to bring home the money. Regarding the Bing and Google. I have always freelanced for companies or did affiliate marketing. And there was definitely a learning curve to it.

One of the things I avoided doing was to be "pretentious" as in to take people's money to deliver a service and then use that money to practice on them. What I focused on was developing systems that worked. I took the risk on myself that if I lost money, I would pay for it myself. Not my client.

I think 2021 is the final year of that major learning curve so going into 2022, the only thing I would have to do is pick up the phone and dial, prospect and make that money.

I think certifications are ok to have. I know some companies dont even look at that. They look at real life experience with tried and true results. So thats where 95% of my profits went for the past 3+ years. Focusing on developing the real skills rather than signing up people to use them as "lab rats".

In fact, I believe this is the #1 reason a lot of companies hate hiring marketing agencies. Because a lot of them just take some random online course and think they are the "gods of marketing". And then they deliver shitty results to their clients.

And I really dont blame companies for avoiding hiring just any marketer. Shit that be dangerous. I have spoken to tons of business owners when doing market research. I can tell you a majority of them have tried 4 + agencies and gotten horrible results. I believe even Chase himself did the same thing and got burnt by multiple companies.

Chase said something along the lines "I think the really good marketers are the company owners but then they hire newbie marketers who dont fully understand the gist of marketing and that leads to a bad experience". And Chase ended up having to do the SEO and other stuff on his own again.

The last thing I would ever want to do is burn a client. I am looking to garner a 90% or higher retention rate with all my clients. If I sign a client and they are paying $1,000 per month, I am looking to having them as a client 20, 30 plus years down the road. Even when they sell the business I want to be a part of their growth.

In fact for any budding marketer, I do not recommend they go out and try to get their first profit clients until they have first invested the money themselves and tried and failed. I would recommend every marketer to spend at least 2-3 years learning how things work. Of course there are a few rules to the exception.

But to be absolutely great at something, I recommend everyone spend at least 1,000 doing it before they call themselves "ready" or the "go to expert".

 

[Troy]

Guys above are spot on.


Just STOP going to prostitutes. You can give yourself better orgasms than the shit you describe for free.


Plus you need that extra bit of horniness from not getting pussy to drive youraelf to get laid.


Plus it's a waste of money you don't have much of.


Just stop.

Im happy to say this morning I sat down with my phone in my hands and deleted every escorts phone number I found online and had contacted in the past. It was not an easy decision, but glad you guys gave me the kick in the face that I needed.

That's not to say I may still be tempted 3-5 months from now to go hire another escort if I dont get laid. What I will do is follow OP advice @Skills and focus on lifestyle. I think he is saying focus on lifestyle. As in to get my shit together as a man first. Thats what I gather. I could be wrong. But thats what I got from what he was saying.

All I will commit to right now is moving as quickly forward with the lifestyle stuff so I dont have to end up relapsing on some 15 minutes pussy in the future with a paid stranger.

Appreciate your input bud!

 

[Toby2030]

Now that I have completed my Advanced Sales certifications, I now have the #1 skill needed

This is what I'm trying to tell you - just because you have some kind of sales certifications do not give you the skill. You get the skill from ACTUALLY selling. There's a huge difference between understanding sales and actually selling. It's the same reason people with a master of science in marketing without work experience aren't worth shit compared to a guy with no education and just 2 years work experience - they have practical experience and a record of results.

At some point you will not make the desired results for your customer as you want, and you have to be okay with failing. It's not always your fault directly but a bad product, bad website etc. Consider offering your salary for free, if you do not make profit. It's a great gurantee to have esp with small clients when you are starting out. I used to do that with new clients when I started out.

Paid social and paid search is not rocket science. You don't need that much info in order to do profitable campaigns. Just like the minimal viable product strategy when launching products, you should use it the same when you want to start actually using a new skill. It's about getting started and spending, in order to learn from your mistakes. Just like learning seduction.

 

[Tim Iron]

Have you thought about "widening your standards", so that you can get more women? It's a lot cheaper than escorts in my opinion... just saying.

 

[trashKENNUT]

This is what I'm trying to tell you - just because you have some kind of sales certifications do not give you the skill. You get the skill from ACTUALLY selling. There's a huge difference between understanding sales and actually selling. It's the same reason people with a master of science in marketing without work experience aren't worth shit compared to a guy with no education and just 2 years work experience - they have practical experience and a record of results.

At some point you will not make the desired results for your customer as you want, and you have to be okay with failing. It's not always your fault directly but a bad product, bad website etc.

No disrespect to DML.

I actually agree with him. For me, I go one level deeper. There's nothing right or wrong about this. Just levels of where we operate.

In my opinion, this is where the macro micro starts to fuse and it's driving everybody crazy.

First example:

Just recently, this client of mine. I got him leads but he wants sales. He wants sales now, now NOW. Then When I look at his ads, it's people at the awareness phase. Now not only do I need to create a whole different set of ads and then making sure that there's a journey. I am literally needing to fix a lot of things.

I would say that it is my fault though my gut recognize it early.

Second example:

i kinda don't agree on working for free. There's a lot of reasons for it. but here's something to consider. Do more of like spreading out your time.

Risk reversal is very key.

Clickfunnels offer hundreds of dollars off when you sign up for a year.

You can charge $1000 for 3 months, as an example. Because customers needs RISK REVERSAL.

I hear enough nightmare stories on contractors not getting paid. You need some deposit as agreement. I'm still trying to merge this sales and dating and what's the difference. Or education and real world experience.

It's erratic for now

z@c+

 

[POB]

90% of dudes should go about life using this priority order:
1) make enough money to be financially independent, take very few non-serious women on the side while building it;
2) once money is not an issue, get good at game and fuck at will, maybe find a serious chick after 3-5 years of non-mono relationships.

Nobody does that unfortunately.

 

[Troy]

Have you thought about "widening your standards", so that you can get more women? It's a lot cheaper than escorts in my opinion... just saying.

Yeah I have thought about widening my standards. But only up to a certain point. One of the biggest deal breakers that I cannot get over is a woman's weight. If she weights 250 + pounds, aint no bones in my body will move with excitement. And my dick would not even stand up if she was naked in front of me.

Other standards I can widen to accept are girls with some tattoos (as long as she does not look like a splash of paint from head to toe). I can accept women with multiple piercings for a fling. But she cannot look like wolverine with hooks hanging outside of every crease of her body. Thats

Aside from those exceptions, I will have sex with the majority of women. I know girlschase does not really use the ranking scale for women. But to give context. A woman who is even a 3 in looks, I could have sex with.

That being said, widening my standards is not really the problem. In the past 3 years, I have had 4 women up front tell me they would love to get married to me. There was this new girl at my workplace (pre covid) up front told me she loved me and wanted to marry me. At the time, I doubt she barely knew my name.

My boss had put me and several other colleagues in charge of onboarding a few new employees. And she was one of them. She had multiple other dudes in the office to sit beside and learn the job, but she chose to sit beside me. The 2nd day she sat beside me, a few of the ladies in the office noticed that this girl was giving me heavy eye contact. And they asked her why she was staring at me like that. Her response was:

"Troy is my husband"

Dude, all the ladies attraction in the office increased towards me immediately. Even ladies who disliked me before were now telling me good morning and some even hugging me the moment I walked in the office.

The 2nd girl who told me she wanted to marry me, she has been stalking me for years. From around 2014 to be exact. She is a nice Christian girl. And to this day she is low key stalking me. The problem is I tried to date her before but she is adamant that sex will not happen before marriage. And I do not plan on marrying her. In fact I dont plan on getting married anytime before the next decade. And so I dont want to hurt this sweet girls feelings. So I have been avoiding contact with her for years now.

Earlier this year, she tried desperately to contact me. And I fell for it for a moment. And she confessed wanting to give her virginity to me and for us to have kids together. I dont remember the exact word for word she used. But she said something along the lines of "I could see myself getting freaky with you when we get married".

And every year she texts me "Happy Birthday". She is a real sweet heart. And I respect her, so if she says no sex till marriage, there is no point in me hanging around. Because all I would be doing is hurting her by leading her on.

The other 2 girls, the stories are long, so i will save those for another time. To sum it up, I know I am not a hideous guy. I know many ladies who have directly and indirectly expressed interest in dating me. Some I have slept with. Many of them I lost either due to my game or logistics not being on point. I would guess at least 70% of the women I did not have sex with, it was due to my logistics being fucked up.

Its gotten to the point now where the only way I can see myself banging most of the girls who show high interest in me, is for me to get my life together. Get my car together. Get my apartment together. Make the logistics easy. So I can lead these super interested girls into my bed.

 

[0---]

You got the message.


Now implement.


Post here regularly to keep yourself accountable.


IF you relapse, don't beat yourself up too much, just pick yourself right back up and go back to the plan.


Love yourself.

 

[Troy]

You got the message.


Now implement.


Post here regularly to keep yourself accountable.


IF you relapse, don't beat yourself up too much, just pick yourself right back up and go back to the plan.


Love yourself.

Yes I commit to implementing. Thank you for your words of wisdom.

 

[0---]

Great. Keep us posted.


You clearly have an ability to attract females already so once you've got the money and lifestyle bits figured you'll progress if you put in the work.

Looking forward to reading where you are in three months.

 

[DonGately]

90% of dudes should go about life using this priority order:
1) make enough money to be financially independent, take very few non-serious women on the side while building it;
2) once money is not an issue, get good at game and fuck at will, maybe find a serious chick after 3-5 years of non-mono relationships.

Nobody does that unfortunately.

110% agree.

I stumbled into this priority order, honestly. Working in NYC starting to get paid, but I was terrible with women because at first I worked crazy hours and didn't meet anyone outside work hardly, then when I had some free time I had no game.
Then as I got older and financially independent I started doing better, could find a decent chick for a non-serious relationship say once every 6 months [which i thought was good at the time!]

Stumbled onto game/pua theory right before I turned 30. Probably took me a couple years to understand and digest it well so that I could apply it IRL with a hot girl. Started doing better at bars/etc.
Changed jobs, started get paid a lot more, became debt-free, money became a non-issue at the same time I leveled up to intermediate status, was able to get ONS while sober finally, found a serious chick, then learned how to keep a sidepiece/fb. Now I have more money than time available to game.

The above took place over many years, if there was some way I could have purposefully done that and shrank the time required it would have been truly amazing - if there had been game resources in my early 20s that would have helped immensely. I had so much unlearning to do and trial and error. But I couldn't have juggled 3 girls in a rotation until I had money anyway in NYC, back then.

 

[ph40]

110% agree.

I stumbled into this priority order, honestly. Working in NYC starting to get paid, but I was terrible with women because at first I worked crazy hours and didn't meet anyone outside work hardly, then when I had some free time I had no game.
Then as I got older and financially independent I started doing better, could find a decent chick for a non-serious relationship say once every 6 months [which i thought was good at the time!]

Stumbled onto game/pua theory right before I turned 30. Probably took me a couple years to understand and digest it well so that I could apply it IRL with a hot girl. Started doing better at bars/etc.
Changed jobs, started get paid a lot more, became debt-free, money became a non-issue at the same time I leveled up to intermediate status, was able to get ONS while sober finally, found a serious chick, then learned how to keep a sidepiece/fb. Now I have more money than time available to game.

The above took place over many years, if there was some way I could have purposefully done that and shrank the time required it would have been truly amazing - if there had been game resources in my early 20s that would have helped immensely. I had so much unlearning to do and trial and error. But I couldn't have juggled 3 girls in a rotation until I had money anyway in NYC, back then.

Just out of curiosity, did you work in the finance sector in NYC?