Texting Convo from Daygame

[Jacksonville01]

Just wanted some feedback, I hate texting and I'm trying to improve.

I've been trying to follow Skills' texting advice which I input into ChatGTP to help


Texting Convo

Thurs 8th May
Me: "Was fun meeting earlier : ) - [My Name]" @ 8.11pm
Her: Yh it was. Highly interesting." @ 9.26pm
Me: was it the convo or my charm you found highly interesting @10.17pm

Friday 9th May
her: just the whole situation @2pm
me: ok i agree
didn't expect to run into a pirate with sexy feet (she was wearing a pirate costume and claimed she had sexy feet that she was looking to sell pics of)
you got any trouble planned for the weekend ? @7.43pm

Saturday 10th May
her: work and revision tbh. Just such a fun weekend.
U?? @3.30PM
Me: work, uncle duties and dying from hayfever
sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy @6.50pm


Text Breakdown

Me: "Was fun meeting earlier : ) - [My Name]" @ 8.11pm
I got this from Chase and I always text this. My reply rates to this text is good, probably because im having better interactions. I used to go for the hard close after texting this and lost alot of leads in past

Me: was it the convo or my charm you found highly interesting @10.17pm
I usually wait until next day to text after the first text but wanted get her to text back so I can leave her hanging until next day but she ended up doing that to me

didn't expect to run into a pirate with sexy feet
I stopped using emojis because she hasn't used a single one and my text length is longer than hers so im trying to cut my text length down to match her investment but Skills said I should always add a question after a statement to give her something to reply to so I asked her about her weekend to try and move into a soft close

sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy @6.50pm
This is my soft close

 

[Atlas IV]

That's solid texting. Minimalist and maintains intrigue. Good stuff

 

[bkw]

Texting is pretty basic in the sense that the less invested she is in texting (waiting a while to respond, no effort put in, no emojis or signs of excitement, not asking questions, etc.), almost always means the less interested she is. The opposite is also true that usually the more invested she is (quick to respond, showing excitement, lots of emojis, lots of texts, asking questions, she's initiating etc.), the more interested she is. Yes, you can say there are exceptions (i.e., she's just not a texter; she always texts like that regardless, she's busy, etc.), but generally people tend to follow the same trend.

Based on this interaction, while it's good she is responding, she isn't really investing much considering the timing or effort put into her texts. However, if she's responding, you always treat that as a green light. If you want to get nerdy technical, try to match her level of investment or lower. If you are investing a lot when she's not, she could see that as desperation, even if you're not. So if you're flirting, and she's not really engaging with that flirting, then you might want to dial it down a bit.

If a girl is showing very high levels of investment via texting then essentially she's down, and you just move it forward. In that case, it's actually better you remain "the prize" by not investing as much as she is, and this basically keeps her highly attracted

 

[Jacksonville01]

Texting Convo

Thurs 8th May
Me: "Was fun meeting earlier : ) - [My Name]" @ 8.11pm
Her: Yh it was. Highly interesting." @ 9.26pm
Me: was it the convo or my charm you found highly interesting @10.17pm

Friday 9th May
her: just the whole situation @2pm
me: ok i agree
didn't expect to run into a pirate with sexy feet (she was wearing a pirate costume and claimed she had sexy feet that she was looking to sell pics of)
you got any trouble planned for the weekend ? @7.43pm

Saturday 10th May
her: work and revision tbh. Just such a fun weekend.
U?? @3.30PM
Me: work, uncle duties and dying from hayfever
sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy @6.50pm

she replied today

Monday 12th May
she used a laughing emoji for: work, uncle duties and dying from hayfever

Her: Icl I replied in my head and forgot to reply in person

she replied to: sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy
Her: However tempting that is, a girl has to get good grades and to do that she has to revise @10.25AM

So from Skills' guide this looks like a yellow/objection. Thinking I should persist 1 or 2 times before using BIHC text or "Ohh, I see...you seem to be very busy" text that someone recommended on here

So something along the lines that Skills recommends:

"I get it… I can be way too distracting"
"But coffee with someone fun and handsome = 93.4% more productive, proven by science"

 

[Will_V]

Just wanted some feedback, I hate texting and I'm trying to improve.

I've been trying to follow Skills' texting advice which I input into ChatGTP to help


Texting Convo

Thurs 8th May
Me: "Was fun meeting earlier : ) - [My Name]" @ 8.11pm
Her: Yh it was. Highly interesting." @ 9.26pm
Me: was it the convo or my charm you found highly interesting @10.17pm

Friday 9th May
her: just the whole situation @2pm
me: ok i agree
didn't expect to run into a pirate with sexy feet (she was wearing a pirate costume and claimed she had sexy feet that she was looking to sell pics of)
you got any trouble planned for the weekend ? @7.43pm

Saturday 10th May
her: work and revision tbh. Just such a fun weekend.
U?? @3.30PM
Me: work, uncle duties and dying from hayfever
sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy @6.50pm


Text Breakdown

Me: "Was fun meeting earlier : ) - [My Name]" @ 8.11pm
I got this from Chase and I always text this. My reply rates to this text is good, probably because im having better interactions. I used to go for the hard close after texting this and lost alot of leads in past

Me: was it the convo or my charm you found highly interesting @10.17pm
I usually wait until next day to text after the first text but wanted get her to text back so I can leave her hanging until next day but she ended up doing that to me

didn't expect to run into a pirate with sexy feet
I stopped using emojis because she hasn't used a single one and my text length is longer than hers so im trying to cut my text length down to match her investment but Skills said I should always add a question after a statement to give her something to reply to so I asked her about her weekend to try and move into a soft close

sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy @6.50pm
This is my soft close

That texting has some good moments. But IMO there's a little bit too much qualifying yourself here.

First you ask if it was the convo or 'my charm' she found interesting. OK, that's a little cheesy, but fine.

But then later on you say "sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy". That makes a total of three qualifiers of yourself (charming, handsome, fun). On top of that you qualified her about her sexy feet. And so far she has not qualified herself to you at all, she's just sat there on the receiving end of all this.

So the end result is she's feeling that you are way more eager than she is, and likely felt like she needed to put the brakes on things by not replying right away. And she feels no need to prove anything or show any eagerness to you (which is what you ideally want).

I have a phobia at this point of saying anything along the lines of "you need a break from <some monotonous bs> with a handsome guy etc etc" because it was something I used a lot at one point thinking I was being clever, and realized later on that it's actually very needy. It's like saying "you're the busy boss with stuff to do, take a break with me and I'll do something to make it worth your while". It's a kind of chase frame, and shows very high attainability. And even when she met up with me after I'd say something like this, her attitude would be off.

The way I dealt with this is to make it a rule to treat women always as having more free time, less important stuff to do, and a lower 'rank' than myself, even if it wasn't true, simply by virtue of me being a man and her being a woman. Not in a bad way, not by putting her down or 'negging' her at all, but simply having the frame of 'whatever I'm doing is always slightly more important to me than what you are doing'.

So in this text conversation, what you needed to do was assume attraction - banter a bit and then soft close, and assume that she will find a way to make some time for you. And if she really can't find the time, then either it's because she's genuinely snowed under with work/study (in which case maybe arrange something for later on when she's got more time) or she's not all that interested, and no discount deal offer is going to change that.

Hope this helps!

 

[Jacksonville01]

That texting has some good moments. But IMO there's a little bit too much qualifying yourself here.

First you ask if it was the convo or 'my charm' she found interesting. OK, that's a little cheesy, but fine.

But then later on you say "sounds like you could use a break with a handsome fun guy". That makes a total of three qualifiers of yourself (charming, handsome, fun). On top of that you qualified her about her sexy feet. And so far she has not qualified herself to you at all, she's just sat there on the receiving end of all this.

So the end result is she's feeling that you are way more eager than she is, and likely felt like she needed to put the brakes on things by not replying right away. And she feels no need to prove anything or show any eagerness to you (which is what you ideally want).

I have a phobia at this point of saying anything along the lines of "you need a break from <some monotonous bs> with a handsome guy etc etc" because it was something I used a lot at one point thinking I was being clever, and realized later on that it's actually very needy. It's like saying "you're the busy boss with stuff to do, take a break with me and I'll do something to make it worth your while". It's a kind of chase frame, and shows very high attainability. And even when she met up with me after I'd say something like this, her attitude would be off.

The way I dealt with this is to make it a rule to treat women always as having more free time, less important stuff to do, and a lower 'rank' than myself, even if it wasn't true, simply by virtue of me being a man and her being a woman. Not in a bad way, not by putting her down or 'negging' her at all, but simply having the frame of 'whatever I'm doing is always slightly more important to me than what you are doing'.

So in this text conversation, what you needed to do was assume attraction - banter a bit and then soft close, and assume that she will find a way to make some time for you. And if she really can't find the time, then either it's because she's genuinely snowed under with work/study (in which case maybe arrange something for later on when she's got more time) or she's not all that interested, and no discount deal offer is going to change that.

Hope this helps!

OK thanks for the advice — that makes sense.

I didn’t actually see her feet, that line was meant as a joke

But yeah, I get what you’re saying — be flirty, but without over-qualifying myself or trying to prove too much before she’s shown interest back.
Basically: assume attraction, tease a bit, and let her invest too.

 

[Skills]

I personally think you are missing what activity you are suggesting...

You didn't tell her what activity....

Break blah and go dancing, or drinks etc...

I personally don't think it was needy you are just flirting and gauging...you did fine...

Saying you are handsome and fun i see it as dhviing and cockiness vs qualifying...

 

[Will_V]

I personally don't think it was needy you are just flirting and gauging...you did fine...

Saying you are handsome and fun i see it as dhviing and cockiness vs qualifying...

I think it depends a lot on who you are in person and what sort of approach it was. If you're cocky and funny and push/pulling and that type of stuff when she's with you, she's probably going to look at those texts with a knowing smile and it's going to go down fine.

Personally I'm not a high energy or cocky type of guy, plus I do mainly daygame where things tend to be more chill and 'normal', so ymmv.

My habit is to use strong nonverbals to show my desire and interest, and so the content of my conversation by way of balance is fairly subtle in terms of showing intent.

The main thing I don't like about the 'take a break with a handsome guy' line though is that it makes it sound like she needs a reason to see you, rather than assuming that she already wants to see you, and all she needs is an opportunity. And together with the 'charming' line it comes off to me as overdone. Especially on text where you can't see faces and hear tones, I can see her thinking "ok this guy needs to take a breather".

That's the way I see it, I have my own style so again ymmv.

 

[Skills]

I think it depends a lot on who you are in person and what sort of approach it was. If you're cocky and funny and push/pulling and that type of stuff when she's with you, she's probably going to look at those texts with a knowing smile and it's going to go down fine.

Personally I'm not a high energy or cocky type of guy, plus I do mainly daygame where things tend to be more chill and 'normal', so ymmv.

My habit is to use strong nonverbals to show my desire and interest, and so the content of my conversation by way of balance is fairly subtle in terms of showing intent.

The main thing I don't like about the 'take a break with a handsome guy' line though is that it makes it sound like she needs a reason to see you, rather than assuming that she already wants to see you, and all she needs is an opportunity. And together with the 'charming' line it comes off to me as overdone. Especially on text where you can't see faces and hear tones, I can see her thinking "ok this guy needs to take a breather".

That's the way I see it, I have my own style so again ymmv.

Correct if you don't have that vibe or personality won't work and is try hard needy...

 

[Will_V]

OK thanks for the advice — that makes sense.

I didn’t actually see her feet, that line was meant as a joke

But yeah, I get what you’re saying — be flirty, but without over-qualifying myself or trying to prove too much before she’s shown interest back.
Basically: assume attraction, tease a bit, and let her invest too.

The way I look at it, it's about balance. Here she's not shown any real eagerness or investment, but you have. So it feels unbalanced in terms of who is more keen, even if you're being funny.

That said if it's in your nature to be fairly direct and cocky then you can definitely pull it off if the girl is down for that. I prefer to lean toward using words to frame her as chasing me, while showing my interest nonverbally, it's just more enjoyable for me and more so a part of my personality.

 

[Jacksonville01]

I get both points of view—cocky vs over-qualifying yourself

I’d say she probably sees me as more cocky since that’s the vibe I gave off in person.

I also do feel like I come off as showing more interest, especially since the only interest she has shown is "However tempting that is," which could’ve been a bit of sarcasm.

That said, I’ll definitely keep in mind the balance between being cocky, over-qualifying, and the interest shown.

 

[Skills]

I get both points of view—cocky vs over-qualifying yourself

I’d say she probably sees me as more cocky since that’s the vibe I gave off in person.

I also do feel like I come off as showing more interest, especially since the only interest she has shown is "However tempting that is," which could’ve been a bit of sarcasm.

That said, I’ll definitely keep in mind the balance between being cocky, over-qualifying, and the interest shown.

In most seductions the men will be more invested in the girl till sex happens.... Again next time include activity..