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Texting seems to be a massive sticking point not just in seduction, but for guys in general (at least based on the fact that @Chase's articles on texting have the highest number of comments).
As most of us here probably know, there are broadly two styles of texting that are discussed in this community:
The first, which I'll refer to as the "minimalist style", the flagship style of GC, is explained in detail in this article How to text a girl in 2022. The aim is to meet the girl face-to-face using as few texts as possible. This structure has been my go-to for the past 5 years. The advantage is that it saves time and energy, because you always know exactly what sort of text to send. It also differentiates you from the vast majority of guys who are texting girls day and night nonstop. The disadvantage, in my experience, is that unless you built very strong floor of rapport with her in person (e.g. through an insta-date), the chance of her not responding is high.
The second, which I'll call the "rapport-building style" (perhaps "investment-building" is more appropriate?) is described by @Skills in his texting guide post and largely similar to what @Hector Papi Castillo teaches in his ebook on texting. The goal, rather than keeping it to just a few carefully-worded texts, is to build some compliance and rapport with her via text prior to "hard closing" so that she is more likely to say yes to the date request.
Here's the structure as outlined by Skills:
I've started experimenting with this approach recently, and while I find it more time-consuming (probably because I'm not very practiced with it yet), it does do a better job of capturing engagement with girls from day game whom I didn't get the chance to establish much rapport in person. The disadvantages are that it's hard to get right, you're competing for attention with countless other guys who are also texting her, and you can't use any of your seduction fundamentals (body language, voice tonality, non-verbals, etc) to your advantage.
Then there is a third method which @Teevster teaches in these articles, which is to discard texting altogether and instead send girls short video messages. He claims that this massively improved his response rate from girls. I've not tried it much yet, but I can see video messages being a powerful way of setting yourself apart from the hordes of men in her inbox. Of course, it takes balls, and surely a lot of practice to be able to send the perfect video message that captures your vibe without coming across as chasing. Of all the strategies though, I'd wager that this is the one that offers the greatest ROI once you've got it nailed.
So my question to the community is: what has been your experience with these different styles of texting? Is the answer perhaps that a situational approach is best - minimalist for girls you build a strong floor with in person, while using the compliance-building approach for the girls you didn't have much in-person time with? Also, if you've tried video messages, what has been your experience with it?
As most of us here probably know, there are broadly two styles of texting that are discussed in this community:
The first, which I'll refer to as the "minimalist style", the flagship style of GC, is explained in detail in this article How to text a girl in 2022. The aim is to meet the girl face-to-face using as few texts as possible. This structure has been my go-to for the past 5 years. The advantage is that it saves time and energy, because you always know exactly what sort of text to send. It also differentiates you from the vast majority of guys who are texting girls day and night nonstop. The disadvantage, in my experience, is that unless you built very strong floor of rapport with her in person (e.g. through an insta-date), the chance of her not responding is high.
The second, which I'll call the "rapport-building style" (perhaps "investment-building" is more appropriate?) is described by @Skills in his texting guide post and largely similar to what @Hector Papi Castillo teaches in his ebook on texting. The goal, rather than keeping it to just a few carefully-worded texts, is to build some compliance and rapport with her via text prior to "hard closing" so that she is more likely to say yes to the date request.
Here's the structure as outlined by Skills:
I've started experimenting with this approach recently, and while I find it more time-consuming (probably because I'm not very practiced with it yet), it does do a better job of capturing engagement with girls from day game whom I didn't get the chance to establish much rapport in person. The disadvantages are that it's hard to get right, you're competing for attention with countless other guys who are also texting her, and you can't use any of your seduction fundamentals (body language, voice tonality, non-verbals, etc) to your advantage.
Then there is a third method which @Teevster teaches in these articles, which is to discard texting altogether and instead send girls short video messages. He claims that this massively improved his response rate from girls. I've not tried it much yet, but I can see video messages being a powerful way of setting yourself apart from the hordes of men in her inbox. Of course, it takes balls, and surely a lot of practice to be able to send the perfect video message that captures your vibe without coming across as chasing. Of all the strategies though, I'd wager that this is the one that offers the greatest ROI once you've got it nailed.
So my question to the community is: what has been your experience with these different styles of texting? Is the answer perhaps that a situational approach is best - minimalist for girls you build a strong floor with in person, while using the compliance-building approach for the girls you didn't have much in-person time with? Also, if you've tried video messages, what has been your experience with it?
I tried to heavily focus on that in the book.