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oldhabits

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I'll be starting this to chronicle my pickup adventures. My background is over 30, short, and I don't have a great build, but I'm not overweight.

The focus of this will be on cold approaches, because needless to say I'm considered below avg in looks, so my results are not impressive. I've used apps a little in other countries successfully, but the amount of effort just to get a semi decent girl talking to me is tremendous vs in person approach.

My experience with cold approach is 1.5 years on/off inconsistent. I like that I can post here along many other hunters and enjoy reading your conquests.

Why The Cipher Vault? Because I am chasing what is hidden, encrypted - and I'm here to decipher it.
 

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Signed up for bumble two weeks ago. I never met any girl from an app in my country, but I figured why not do this for some lead generation and see if I can get it to work? Previously, I would sign up for a week, get frustrated then uninstall because too many gorgoroths and unwanteds are matching me. Oh what I would give to be back in South America.

I've accumulated some very good photos the last year of myself in exotic places at almost single digit body fat. I'm not sure that I can do any better than that. I set my height slightly higher for filtering, but I'm not certain if its helping much. I'm giving off provider single traveler vibes based on how I setup my profile and going for that stereotype, too difficult to go for the bad boy stereotype or different one. One thing I wish I did is set my age 4 years younger, because I know the early to mid 20s are probably not seeing me for the age filter or maybe they are? Any over 30+ matching with 20-26 year olds? I don't have too high hopes for this.

I got 5 girls numbers, maybe ~15-20 matches, none except one I matched that I may have actually approached in person. I know a lot of you guys out there are destroying the birds on these apps. I have thought about paying for this and giving it a try for a month or two, still feel uncertain about supporting these hookup apps.

I was about to meet up with one until we facetimed.. so glad that she cancelled and the following day and I didn't have anything unexpected come up.

I have 2 leads from there, but these leads will probably fizzle out because I am going on a trip. Expect next update in about 2 weeks or so. Not using any apps on the trip, what as waste of time!
 
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I am back in town from a recent trip and you're probably waiting for some crazy adventure, unfortunately that didn't happen. I visited a smaller beach town with pop. under 1000, yeah you read that right. This place is mainly for families. I was here for free, so guess I should not complain too much. The demographics here are families with young teenagers and little kids riding around on bikes all day, not ideal for cold approaching. I was also sleeping on a 2x4 which was like sleeping on concrete, so to cope I was drinking every single night attempting to pass out to sleep, a few days I had none.

Fast forward, on my way back from the trip, super exhausted with the lack of sleep and drinking every night. I stumble upon a spanish festival. Ok, great this is exactly what I'm looking to do. I get in line behind two girls and open them up with a question asking if this is free to get in, because I'm not sure just traveling through and found this place. It was a 2-set one is Mexican the other is Pinay. I zoned in on the Mexican making small talk about traveling in Mexico. She was giving brief answers, nothing I could really work with, lots of dead air. I should of pivoted to the other girl and engaged in conversation with her more than I did. After a few minutes, we reach the security checkpoint so ask her, before I lose you in the crowd what is your Instagram? Her response, I have a boyfriend! I really do I swear!! I'm not necesarily sure if I believe that one, maybe she was not trying to look like a slut to her friend who I messed up not engaging with enough.

Next approach, one of the vendors selling her arts and crafts. This girl has massive cahoots. She is very engaging asking a lot of questions, where I'm from, we talk about traveling, etc. Maybe around the 7 or 8 minute mark I've had enough and go for the whatsapp. Turns out she is married and points to the dude who is doing something about 10 feet away from us.

I'm getting pretty tired at this point and its almost been two hrs. I ate some dinner and was watching the show which used up some time. I see a single girl super slowly walking while looking at the vendors. I open her from the side asking about her ethnicity, we continue walking because there's not really anywhere to stop plus we're not walking very fast at all. I've learned my lesson before - not to keep walking with a girl and to stop her completely, but we must have been walking half a mile per hour so we keep slowly strolling. The first question was about her ethnicity, the next question she seems quite receptive, then suddenly she sees an abuela off to the corner who she hugs and they start talking.. because we were strolling I didn't linger around to wait it was a bit early. Lesson learned again, NEVER continue walking with a girl no matter what pace you're going at, full on stop her. I should of suggested moving off to the side after that first question.


Back home, I had one session with 4 approaches -
1 we'll call her O she is Pinay, probably around 30 very receptive to my open we chat for about 30 seconds. Then not one, but two of her little kids walk up to her screaming mommy. I was really taken aback and a startled by the kids, even though she was being receptive to me. Plus the nerves kicked in a bit, because this was my 1st set back. I told her, it was nice talking with you and went on my way.

2 A, I saw her going into the Asian market and approached her 2 minutes later. She has these nice tattoos on her legs that I commented on, oh she is a tattoo artist. I would say she is probably 23-27. We were conversing about the place how it is new, the area, etc. she did a lot of talking. I got her number, but I haven't received a response. I'll send a final ghosted followup message tomorrow, most likely won't get anything back.

3 D, Asian girl in the market. I'm not sure if I should even count this, because I already know that Asian girls don't like me - I'm not their type, nor am I very fond of how most Asians look. We chatted for a few minutes talking about the foods she grew up on as a kid. When I asked for her number she said that she doesn't feel comfortable giving it out.

4 Z, girl from target. She is young in college and from the middle east. At around the one minute mark she mentions that she has a boyfriend. She didn't say it at first so I thought ok shitest. I respond that I don't care and she starts laughing profusely, what do you mean don't care? hahah. You don't care?? We are talking about travel and what kind of girl she is. I made an awful assumption something about how I think shes the type that stays in and likes watching Netflix, not exactly sure why I said that but it turned the conversation sexual incidentally too early. She mentioned something about how she likes to dress up and go out to nice places for dinner which I thought was the most random pretentious thing - I probably should of said that, is this chick a gold digger or something? We chatted for a while, I noticed she was giving a lot of IODs and at one point I notice she has an something on her phone which looked like she was recording so I asked her if she was. I guess she called her boyfriend and had him on speaker or something, ok I really pushed the conversation on this one, but if you're not claiming you have a boyfriend within 30 seconds in I'll see how long you want to go until its uncomfortable.

Online front -
If you're still reading at this point, just wait until you hear this ridiculousness. So I signed up for a week of the bumble premium. I figured I might as well continue to put myself out there as much as possible. I'm sitting at 25 matches, only a few lookers. A lot unmatched with me for whatever reason. About 10 of those are where I just came from, so I won't be seeing them. One girl was receptive, however, she is a bit older. I've since readjusted age filter to under 34 given how much fuckery older women give and its not worth the effort.

The two leads I previously had - one is receptive, but just stringing me along its annoying even though she was messaging me while I was on my trip. I'll send her a hows it going? text and she will respond right away saying good. Then, if I ask her something about her plans or what shes up to, nothing. I'm sending a final message to her tomorrow.

A jewish girl matches with me and I get her number quick. Her profile read lets skip small talk. I send her the first text and her response is ooof green, oldhabits? I replied with asking her what kind of trouble she is doing tonight? I didn't know what she meant about the green until the next message which read - Texting a guy with an android how about you. ..What in the Actual F are you kidding me!? I replied back telling her in a nice way I bet she's normal in a different mood. She replies back. I'm just sending her a Dpic at this point or something I don't even care.

Other matches, I get a number and text her. Oh, she gave me wrong number cool. Another number, not responsive. I'm getting bored of online this is a waste of time. I don't have much experience with online dating apps, but I don't want to be messaging crazies so I don't think this is for me. I'll continue to use it, but not sure I'll be sending bumble anymore payments if this is what they're sending me.

There are few events going on in my area this month that I'm going to try and attend. I'll aim for 2-3 game sessions/week. I don't live in a high foot traffic area, so if I get 5 approaches per session then I consider that a success. On a side note, on the trip I was looking at my hair and omg I need to start taking dutasteride ASAP it has started accelerating from all the drinking and is not doing me any favors. I've got some greys on the sides that are cropping up just this year, so I need to take care of this. I'll do another update I think in a month not sure about every two weeks. One larger monthly post seems fine, unless I have something significant to write here.
 
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