THE ELITES

[trashKENNUT]

Hi, In reference to Chase reply on "What Is it Like Dating Attractive Women?"

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I just had the opportunity to attend a club event of a social circle acquaintance, it's a model competition, lots of beautiful girls, and i really mean those who are same caliber, likely to be on the streets too. It seems like this beautiful people tend to be around beautiful people. IT's like, Like Attracts Like. I can't however seem to grasp how i can actually be like one of those people, and be more around them.

It may feel like i am climbing a social ladder. I don't know. I just feel that i need value. Something which i need to work on, especially in clubs, like going there often and know people there. I need a take on this. They tend to mingle around themselves, which can be upsetting though because you new there and stuff. Like being put to somewhere in the world and you need to adapt first.

Do you really need to master a location, i don't mind going the extra mile just to appear "least efforting". GOSH

Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi Smith409

The more you focus on you and they see that you are successful in whatever it is that you do, they will be attracted. The first rule is to love yourself. Just sit back, make eye contact and see which one is open to an advance. Then just follow the rules and close in on it. Meanwhile you can build up your abundance with other girls from different circles, then you wont really put out a "needy" vibe...

Yea, the thing is i am not viewed as 'successful' or desirable at the location. This is something that you come across when heading to new places you invited. This the work i am working on, Providing Value.

"To transit myself easily at any location."

Zac

 

[Chase]

Howdy Zac,

It may feel like i am climbing a social ladder. I don't know. I just feel that i need value. Something which i need to work on, especially in clubs, like going there often and know people there. I need a take on this. They tend to mingle around themselves, which can be upsetting though because you new there and stuff. Like being put to somewhere in the world and you need to adapt first.

Do you really need to master a location, i don't mind going the extra mile just to appear "least efforting". GOSH

Zac

I'd recommend you spend sometime moving among their circles and mostly just listening. You don't need to be the center of attention, but these are people you don't fully understand and don't feel you relate to yet, so you want to get to know them and what they like and what they talk about before you start trying to craft yourself into the kind of man who appeals to them.

Collect the data first, make the adjustments once you have it.

Chase

 

[trashKENNUT]

Whaddup Chase,

I'd recommend you spend sometime moving among their circles and mostly just listening. You don't need to be the center of attention, but these are people you don't fully understand and don't feel you relate to yet, so you want to get to know them and what they like and what they talk about before you start trying to craft yourself into the kind of man who appeals to them.

Collect the data first, make the adjustments once you have it.

Awesome, Best advice. Will do.

Thanks,
Zac

 

[trashKENNUT]

BUMP

 

[Fuck This]

Ok I'll do the SET and let Chase come in for the SPIKE......

Spending time around a bunch attractive women, without trying to pick up on them lets you see their flaws and insecurities. It is such an eye opener. as a young man I had a couple of opportunities to do this as an escort/attendant for one "princess" contest, as well as helping my uncle put on an annual "queen" event. In both cases, I had a role to play and had some authority and leadership while the event was going on. Talk about seeing behind the curtain....

Just being around a bunch of pretty long lashes, tight dresses, and beautiful hair all at one time, loses its impact and you can see through the facade and think clearer. You feel like you are in an ocean of options, and your mindset becomes more confident. "Familiarity breeds contempt" is the saying...

 

[Chase]

Well, since you asked for a spike, FT...

Maybe we'd call that the outsider vs. insider point of view.

When you're the outsider, everything seems magical, or important, or intimidating. You see the super hot girl and get butterflies. Whoa. You see all those super cool guys they are with... how could you be like those guys? It seems so out of reach.

Spend enough time as the insider though, and the magic falls away. You discover those flaws and insecurities. You internalize the fact that she's just another person, and you know how to talk with her and what buttons to push that'll likely work. Those cool guys don't seem like they have super powers anymore. They're cool, but they and you are in the same league.

Exposure in general helps a lot too. Different kinds of exposure... back stage exposure is really great (like that kind you had, FT). Once you've seen girls get all gussied up to go on stage, and you see the before and after, the spell of it all breaks. It's like learning how to make music - before you learn, you can't differentiate the bass from the snare from the strings from the metronome. Once you build enough beats though you hear every song that plays as its collection of parts. Girls the same way - there's the girl herself, and on top of that, hair, makeup, dress, heels, facial expressions, posture. How she displays her boobs, how she displays her butt, how she uses her walk, her eye contact, her mouth. All the component parts stick out. You still enjoy her, yet it becomes an appreciation of her rather than being awestruck by her.

Powerful, elite-level guys in general aren't awestruck by things. Such guys are comfortable around everything and everyone. This is typically the way you as a man want to be too.

Chase

 

[ThePhoenix]

You still enjoy her, yet it becomes an appreciation of her rather than being awestruck by her.

I actually see love/romance itself this way. I used to look at them as something "magical", that rational investigation would somehow "spoil". Of course, that was when I was clueless. I've since come to liken it to how an astrophysicist probably has just as great, and perhaps even greater an appreciation of the heavens as a clueless onlooker, even though the latter might be more dazzled.

Once you've seen girls get all gussied up to go on stage, and you see the before and after, the spell of it all breaks.

Mind you, here, I have to ask, "what spell"?

As someone who certainly appreciates beauty, I utterly fail to comprehend the appeal in all this damned hair and makeup shit. I think it generally looks uninspiring, if not downright ridiculous.

I do appreciate behavioural stuff - how she carries herself, - but apart from that, everything else I'm impressed by visually is purely genetics and fitness.

Even in day game, I often see girls with all these damn fake eyelashes, fake nails, fake hair (I mainly like black women but alas, the majority of them wear fake hair), obvious makeup, etc., and to be honest, all it does is make me reluctant to give her a compliment. Because I'm afraid she's going to think I actually like all the fake shit.

It only gets worse in clubs. At least night game isn't really my thing anyway.

I once hit on a model at a show. I had a lot of approach anxiety in general (still do but not as bad), but it actually wasn't any more than it would have been on a random girl in day game. In fact, the only reason I even bothered was because I could tell that underneath the bastardization, she was actually beautiful. I think being totally unimpressed by the glitz helped my approach. And when we met up some days later and she wasn't dolled up, I absolutely found her a lot prettier!

But, I must be peculiar in finding dolled up women unattractive - there has to be some reason why they do it! I guess most guys are fooled easily? Haha.

Phoenix

 

[trashKENNUT]

BUMP.

No One:
No One:
No One:
Zac: Proactivity, this might help for now!

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

Was quite something eh? Was it what you expected considering how media over hypes this sort thing?

 

[trashKENNUT]

Was quite something eh? Was it what you expected considering how media over hypes this sort thing?

I don't understand.

 

[trashKENNUT]

I feel that there's 3 things you must know on girls who are "elites"

1)Access to them
2)Inflation projection they or the society projects
3)if you like them and they don't like you, you can ask for compliance but there's a feeling like you are fucking a dead fish before you even fuck a dead fish. So let it go.

Part of the Manipulation of this life, is the 'I Am' and then next, is the belief/state. As long as you believe in bullshit, girls will unconsciously and consciously project that bullshit that her pussy is worth 200 billion.

This post is for someone who needed to know things. I'm showing the mindset here.

z@c+

 

[POB]

"When you're the outsider, everything seems magical, or important, or intimidating. You see the super hot girl and get butterflies. Whoa. You see all those super cool guys they are with... how could you be like those guys? It seems so out of reach.

Spend enough time as the insider though, and the magic falls away. You discover those flaws and insecurities. You internalize the fact that she's just another person, and you know how to talk with her and what buttons to push that'll likely work. Those cool guys don't seem like they have super powers anymore. They're cool, but they and you are in the same league."

Don't have much to add to the above ^^^

This is exactly my experience.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Hi @onmyway22

This might help

z@c+