The first kiss is so DAMN difficult!

[TrailBlazer]

I can masterfully build attraction and comfort. Even compliance. Women seem to love me, they touch me a lot, look at me with puppy eyes, etc.


And yet, I just can’t make myself pull the trigger. We touch a lot, hug, caress each other, I’m close enough that our noses are touching… but it still doesn’t make it easy for me!


And this is coming from a guy who used to kiss women minutes after approaching them on the street. I had no problem with that, although it took months to master it. And now after a 3 year pause, I know nothing again.


So, how do I make myself brave enough to kiss women? No amount of “just do it” helps me - I’ve been trying to do just that on the past ~20 dates and still can’t do it. Now I messed it up AGAIN with an important girl from my social circle and she is much colder to me. This has to stop. Any ideas?

 

[OldGuy]

For my first kiss, I asked the woman if it was alright to kiss her. Then when she said yes, I realized I did not know how to end it, so broke off giggling and telling her so. She replied that therre was no need to end it!

 

[POB]

First:

I can masterfully build attraction and comfort. Even compliance. Women seem to love me, they touch me a lot, look at me with puppy eyes, etc.

An then:

And this is coming from a guy who used to kiss women minutes after approaching them on the street. I had no problem with that, although it took months to master it. And now after a 3 year pause, I know nothing again.

I just don't understand it.
Care to elaborate?

 

[TrailBlazer]

I just don't understand it.
Care to elaborate?

Well when I used to do daygame daily, after a few months I got to the point where I was able to kiss girls in as little as 15 minutes after the approach.

Now I came back to it after 3 years and while I remember how to build attraction, compliance and comfort, I can’t seem to do the first “big touch” - the kiss. I just dance around it and build everything and then I can’t kiss and the girl eventually leaves and seems really cold afterwards. It’s ruining all my dates now.

I don’t know how to do the touches that can’t be seen as innocent (such as: my friend showed me this hand reading trick). A kiss shows your true intentions, and I’m scared of that. And again: no amount of “just do it” helps, that’s what I’ve been trying for the past 20 dates…

 

[StrayDog]

no amount of “just do it” helps

seeing as this is the solution, you might be screwed.

maybe therapy might help though