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- Aug 24, 2024
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Goals
I am working on adding sexual intent, making conversation less boring, and adding more flirting to my conversation to be more sexual.- STRONG eye contact
- Tease girls within 30 seconds
- Look for opportunities to get off boring conversation by shifting to a emotional topic
Outing
Today I went out to a popular shopping street shortly after work. After arriving I do a short meditation, but it does not seem to make me feel much more present.Approach 1
While walking into the venue I saw a pretty girl cross the street to my side. Not sure if it was an approach invitation, but I catch up to her and start opening, however she did not stop. I kept walking with her and delivered my opener, "I saw you walking by over there and thought you had an amazing outfit", and she reacted positively but continued walking on.Takeaways: Maybe my voice was not authoritative enough to stop her. I complimented her outfit, and many girls appreciate this, but I wonder if she doesn't feel that I am conveying interest or if she is just not interested.
Approach 2
I got in line for a coffee and noticed a pretty blonde in front of me. I notice her look around and subtly brush her hair a couple times, and I am not sure if these are approach invitations for me. I'm not sure how to open her, so I decide to do it after I order. After I open I see another girl sitting next to this girl who seems to make eye contact with me, and this throws me off and I don't approach. I walk around the nearby area, and then see the girl look in my direction and brush her hair again. After some more procrastinating I walk over and wave to her as she's sitting down.Me: "Hello"
Her: "Hi"
Me: "Hi, I just saw you sitting down here and just wanted to say I loved your hair today...you had a really beautiful haircut." <I was a bit slow on coming up with a compliment, and my delivery was a bit flat>
Her: "Oh thank you."
Me: "How are you doing?"
Her: "Good, you?"
Me: "Pretty good, uh...was a little bit bored, and now a little bit more exciting. Yeah, what about you, how are are you doing?" <Tried to flirt here, but my delivery sounded like neutral conversation>
Her: "Um, good." <I forgot I just asked this question>
Me: "What was your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself>
Me: <I introduce myself>. "What are you up to right now?"
Her: "Nothing much, just wandering around."
Me: "Okay, just got off work or something?"
Her: "Yeah yeah"
Me: "Okay, are you hogging this whole area?" <Trying to tease her and sit down with her>
Her: "Am I what?" <She seems confused>
Me: "Are you taking up the whole bench?"
Her: "Um...yeah"
Me: "Do you mind if I take a seat?"
Her: "I'm actually kind of enjoying my space, so yeah." <This seems like a refusal>
Me: "Oh okay, you're a conqueror? You like to claim the land you visit?" <Teasing her here>
Her: <She agrees positively>
Me: "Okay, very cool. Well uh, hope you have a good day."
Her: "Yeah, nice to meet you. Bye!"
Her: "Hi"
Me: "Hi, I just saw you sitting down here and just wanted to say I loved your hair today...you had a really beautiful haircut." <I was a bit slow on coming up with a compliment, and my delivery was a bit flat>
Her: "Oh thank you."
Me: "How are you doing?"
Her: "Good, you?"
Me: "Pretty good, uh...was a little bit bored, and now a little bit more exciting. Yeah, what about you, how are are you doing?" <Tried to flirt here, but my delivery sounded like neutral conversation>
Her: "Um, good." <I forgot I just asked this question>
Me: "What was your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself>
Me: <I introduce myself>. "What are you up to right now?"
Her: "Nothing much, just wandering around."
Me: "Okay, just got off work or something?"
Her: "Yeah yeah"
Me: "Okay, are you hogging this whole area?" <Trying to tease her and sit down with her>
Her: "Am I what?" <She seems confused>
Me: "Are you taking up the whole bench?"
Her: "Um...yeah"
Me: "Do you mind if I take a seat?"
Her: "I'm actually kind of enjoying my space, so yeah." <This seems like a refusal>
Me: "Oh okay, you're a conqueror? You like to claim the land you visit?" <Teasing her here>
Her: <She agrees positively>
Me: "Okay, very cool. Well uh, hope you have a good day."
Her: "Yeah, nice to meet you. Bye!"
Takeaways: I should not have taken so long to approach. My delivery often sounded neutral and was not obviously teasing. I also did not give a very strong compliment. I leaned back but was a bit nervous about not locking in, and my legs were pretty close together, I should have kept them wider apart to be more masculine. My teases were also not very interesting, I was not very present, and I did not use the topic she gave me ("Oh cool, what do you do for work?")
Approach 3
While wandering around I see a cute girl buying flowers. I post up nearby and go on my phone while keeping her in my peripheral vision. When she walks by I "notice" her and follow. I notice she's walking fairly quickly but I decide to catch up and approach anyway. I start opening her and she stops, so I continue.Me: "Excuse me, hi. I just saw you walking down back over there and I wanted to say that I thought you looked incredibly cute today." <Delivery was kind of neutral>
Her: "Oh thank you so much"
Me: "Like your pants scream classy, but your shirt screams party..."
Her: "Oh, that's actually what I was going for! Yeah"
Me: "Really? Is that what you're doing right now? Going to a party"
Her: "Yeah, yeah"
Me: "On a Wednesday?" <Mock shocked tone to try to tease her>
Her: "Ahhh...why not?"
Me: "Are you a 7 days a week party all night kind of girl?"
Her: "Ah, just once in a while."
Me: "Once in a while?"
Her: "Yes"
Me: "Okay, well once in the middle of the week"
Her: "Uh...in a blue moon, I guess"
Me: "Okay, what's wrong with Saturdays?" <Still trying to tease her, but my tone didn't sound very obviously teasing>
Her: "Well, I won't be here, so..."
Me: "Oh, are you leaving for somewhere?"
Her: "Yeah" <she explains where she's going>
Me: "Okay, gotcha, sounds fun."
Her: "Thank you, I'm actually in a rush right now."
Me: "Okay, well I hope you have a great day."
Her: "Thanks you have a great day too."
Her: "Oh thank you so much"
Me: "Like your pants scream classy, but your shirt screams party..."
Her: "Oh, that's actually what I was going for! Yeah"
Me: "Really? Is that what you're doing right now? Going to a party"
Her: "Yeah, yeah"
Me: "On a Wednesday?" <Mock shocked tone to try to tease her>
Her: "Ahhh...why not?"
Me: "Are you a 7 days a week party all night kind of girl?"
Her: "Ah, just once in a while."
Me: "Once in a while?"
Her: "Yes"
Me: "Okay, well once in the middle of the week"
Her: "Uh...in a blue moon, I guess"
Me: "Okay, what's wrong with Saturdays?" <Still trying to tease her, but my tone didn't sound very obviously teasing>
Her: "Well, I won't be here, so..."
Me: "Oh, are you leaving for somewhere?"
Her: "Yeah" <she explains where she's going>
Me: "Okay, gotcha, sounds fun."
Her: "Thank you, I'm actually in a rush right now."
Me: "Okay, well I hope you have a great day."
Her: "Thanks you have a great day too."
Takeaways: My delivery could definitely use work, sounded too neutral on the opener and when teasing. I also missed the opportunity to jump on some conversation topics, like why she's leaving and how excited she is about the party she's going to. I actually got the feeling she was a bit flaky and was going to leave on her own shortly while talking to her, and I was right.
Approach 4
I see a cute girl walking quickly down the street, and I follow her for a bit then jog to catch up. When I open, she turns and does not stop, so I quickly say, "Excuse me, hi, I just saw you back over there and wanted to say I thought you looked really pretty today." She barely acknowledges it and keeps walking on, so I let her go.Takeaways: She was walking quickly and looking straight forward, her arms also moving straight forward. These were probably signs of disinterest indicating she was heading somewhere.
Approach 5
I see a girl with an excitable dog walking around, and I follow her for a bit better catching up and opening her. However I am thrown off immediately because her dog is so energetic and is jumping all over the place, pulling on the leash. I end up just petting the dog and chatting briefly with the girl about dogs, and she says she has to go, and I don't follow.Takeaways: I waited for awhile before approaching but I should focus on approaching immediately and not worrying too much about strategy. I also should have recognized there was a clear environmental factor (the dog) that would disrupt the flow of the approach.
Approach 6
While walking down the street, I saw a cute girl with a cowboy hat walk by. I am a bit slow to turn around and follow her, so she ends up making it a fair distance away, and I approach her while she is crossing the street.Me: "Excuse me"
Her: "Hi" <I notice she gives me a smile and seems receptive>
Me: "Here, let's cross the street before we get run over. I just you walking back, and I wanted to say I thought you had an incredible sense of style. I love the cowboy aesthetic."
Her: "Thank you!"
Me: "Do you happen to be from Texas?"
Her: "I'm not, I'm from around here. But I went to the art & wine festival and got it there."
Me: "Oh, that's beautiful. I saw it, I drove by and it was so huge and packed than I expected."
Her: "Thank you so much, I really appreciate it."
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself> "...but I have a boyfriend, so thank you I appreciate it."
Me: "No worries, it really does look fantastic."
Her: "Wonderful, thank you, I appreciate that."
Me: "Yeah, hope you have a great day."
Her: "You too, have a nice night."
Her: "Hi" <I notice she gives me a smile and seems receptive>
Me: "Here, let's cross the street before we get run over. I just you walking back, and I wanted to say I thought you had an incredible sense of style. I love the cowboy aesthetic."
Her: "Thank you!"
Me: "Do you happen to be from Texas?"
Her: "I'm not, I'm from around here. But I went to the art & wine festival and got it there."
Me: "Oh, that's beautiful. I saw it, I drove by and it was so huge and packed than I expected."
Her: "Thank you so much, I really appreciate it."
Me: "What's your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself> "...but I have a boyfriend, so thank you I appreciate it."
Me: "No worries, it really does look fantastic."
Her: "Wonderful, thank you, I appreciate that."
Me: "Yeah, hope you have a great day."
Her: "You too, have a nice night."
Takeaways: I delayed a little too long on approaching and had to catch up a decent distance, it would be more spontaneous and easier if I was more decisive. My delivery on the opener wasn't very strong, it could have been louder and more authoritative. I could have teased her better, saying something like "Well I hope you aren't on your way to a cowgirl job interview right now, because we really don't have enough targets for you to lasso around here" to lightly point out her outfit is unusual.
Approach 7
I see a cute girl walking down towards the parking lot. She seems to be moving quickly and I get the feeling she will have a neutral or slightly closed reception, but I approach anyways. I catch up to her from the side and wave to catch her attention. However I end up turning a fair amount of my body to face her because I was directly to her side instead of slightly in front.Me: "Excuse me"
Her: "Hi?"
Me: "Hi, I just saw you walking back over there, and I wanted to say I thought you had some of the most beautiful hair that I'd seen today"
Her: "Aw, thank you! That's nice of you."
Me: "Uh, what's your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself>
Me: <I introduce myself>
Her: "Oh, nice to meet you!"
Me: "Hi, what are you eating today?" <I point to a cardboard takeout box she has in her hand>
Her: "Oh, I just had some dinner with coworkers."
Me: "Oh nice, one of the restaurants here?"
Her: "Yeah, what about you? Are you having dinner here?"
Me: "No, I just came from the farmer's market, and I went to the tailor earlier."
Her: "Oh nice, cool."
Me: "Yeah, so what did you get for leftovers today?"
Her: "Well, we were at..." <she names a high end lounge nearby>
Me: "Oh, the fancy...lounge, right?"
Her: "Yeah"
Me: "Do you eat out there all the time?"
Her: "No, my coworkers were in town, so we grabbed dinner together."
Me: "Oh okay, what kind of work do you?"
Her: "I'm in HR, what do you do?"
Me: "Okay, I'm an engineer." <I blanked on the alternative lines I was preparing for this question>
Her: "Oh nice! What company?"
Me: "...are you trying to stalk me?" <I lean back a bit suspiciously, and tease her>
Her: "No!" <Laughs> "I work at-"
Me: "Are you going to follow me home and kidnap me now?"
Her: <Laughs> "No, how long have you been an engineer?"
Me: "Uh, about 5 years now."
Her: "Nice, do you like-"
Me: "How long have you been in HR for?"
Her: "I've been doing it for like, 10 years, so. It's been like the same thing over and over again."
Me: "Okay, are you a big fan of like, psychology and people?"
Her: "Um...not really, I do the fun side of HR." <She explains a bit>
Me: <I give a quizzical look> "I'm not really familiar with that."
Her: "Really?" <She explains a bit more>
Me: "Oh, okay. It seems like you really care about people and want them to have a good time." <Sort of a qualifier, but I didn't really screen her either>
Her: "Yeah, definitely something I care about."
Me: "That's a good quality-"
Her: "But I have to head out! But it was nice to meet you!"
Me: "Oh, yeah no problem. Hope you have a great evening."
Her: "You too!"
Her: "Hi?"
Me: "Hi, I just saw you walking back over there, and I wanted to say I thought you had some of the most beautiful hair that I'd seen today"
Her: "Aw, thank you! That's nice of you."
Me: "Uh, what's your name?"
Her: <She introduces herself>
Me: <I introduce myself>
Her: "Oh, nice to meet you!"
Me: "Hi, what are you eating today?" <I point to a cardboard takeout box she has in her hand>
Her: "Oh, I just had some dinner with coworkers."
Me: "Oh nice, one of the restaurants here?"
Her: "Yeah, what about you? Are you having dinner here?"
Me: "No, I just came from the farmer's market, and I went to the tailor earlier."
Her: "Oh nice, cool."
Me: "Yeah, so what did you get for leftovers today?"
Her: "Well, we were at..." <she names a high end lounge nearby>
Me: "Oh, the fancy...lounge, right?"
Her: "Yeah"
Me: "Do you eat out there all the time?"
Her: "No, my coworkers were in town, so we grabbed dinner together."
Me: "Oh okay, what kind of work do you?"
Her: "I'm in HR, what do you do?"
Me: "Okay, I'm an engineer." <I blanked on the alternative lines I was preparing for this question>
Her: "Oh nice! What company?"
Me: "...are you trying to stalk me?" <I lean back a bit suspiciously, and tease her>
Her: "No!" <Laughs> "I work at-"
Me: "Are you going to follow me home and kidnap me now?"
Her: <Laughs> "No, how long have you been an engineer?"
Me: "Uh, about 5 years now."
Her: "Nice, do you like-"
Me: "How long have you been in HR for?"
Her: "I've been doing it for like, 10 years, so. It's been like the same thing over and over again."
Me: "Okay, are you a big fan of like, psychology and people?"
Her: "Um...not really, I do the fun side of HR." <She explains a bit>
Me: <I give a quizzical look> "I'm not really familiar with that."
Her: "Really?" <She explains a bit more>
Me: "Oh, okay. It seems like you really care about people and want them to have a good time." <Sort of a qualifier, but I didn't really screen her either>
Her: "Yeah, definitely something I care about."
Me: "That's a good quality-"
Her: "But I have to head out! But it was nice to meet you!"
Me: "Oh, yeah no problem. Hope you have a great evening."
Her: "You too!"
Takeaways: I got the feeling she had to go somewhere while walking with her, and I was right. I thought she wasn't interested and let her go, but based on her voice tonality and her questions I think she might've actually been interested in me, so I should have closed instead of letting her go. I didn't screen her and I probably should've tried to close her earlier. My chase frame was good but I think I could have teased a bit earlier, after she mentioned the lounge, with something like "Oh, that's a pretty high end place isn't it? You must have expensive tastes, too much for the normal plebians on the street." in a teasing tone (since she's dressed somewhat modestly and casually, it's teasing her behavior versus appearance).
Outcome
I need to work on my opener delivery to be more authoritative and strong.I am having trouble teasing girls because I am in my head. If I was more present, I could notice the words they are actually saying and jump off different topics. Instead I continue thinking about what to say next and end up ignoring the opportunities she gives me for teases / conversation. However I also need to be a little in my head to come up a tease to give, so it might just take more exposure.
I have noticed a pattern of delaying approaching too long which causes me to expend more effort catching up or approaching in a less confident way after the delay. I should try using something like the 3-second rule to be more decisive.
I failed to consciously make predictions in my head before approaching today, they were all subconscious. I should make an effort to make a habit of making a prediction, relaxing my body language, and walking confidently before the approach.
I use a lot of "Okay" in my conversation, a bit too much. I should try cutting out that word unless necessary.
I overall maintained strong eye contact but I want to keep paying some attention to it to lock in the habit.
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