"the hot guy" fundamentals and attraction

[Ragnarok]

Hey what do you guys think about using good looks for seduction? Does it actually help that much in the sense that you feel better. Is seduction different for guys of different attractiveness or do we all go down the same road of getting good with women. I am 5'7 and my hair is thinning considerably and I am in my early 20s. I am not letting this hold me back from my goals or anything but are there any challenges that I should prepare myself for? Does anyone here have a hair transplant or know about them enough to speak on their usefulness? The big question is "Is being the "hot guy " attainable without the natural genes for it(height,hair,body type), Is it achievable with just fashion or does it not matter much either way"

Thanks guys , I am just sort of musing on my current advantages and disadvantages and dont want to get hung up on things

 

[NealIRC]

I agree, it's good to experiment looks on women. The best example I can think of is shirtlessness. How well can men attract women while shirtless?

 

[Frost]

It depends on what you mean by "the hot guy". If you're middle eastern for example you will never become the hairless blonde european "hot guy". That being said, while your genetics do matter, most people who don't look good are this way simply because they don't put in the effort. So no matter how you look, there is always room for improvement. There are tons of articles about that (fundamentals) and here are the very basics:

-Facial hair grooming
-Hair
-Clothes
-Posture
-Walk
-Eye contact
...

You will notice that the more you work on those, the more you will realize how much more work needs to be done, because there will always be some way to get better.

And looks DO matter for women, not as much as they do for me, but they still matter. Again by looks I don't necessarily mean your looks that are genetic, but your fundamentals in general. I'm sure we can all think of a girl we know who isn't naturally very pretty or hot, but her style makes her much more attractive than some naturally beautiful girls. Same thing with guys.

 

[lostnumber]

No one will deny that being naturally good looking is a huge advantage when it comes to getting women, but the reality is that most men are not above average looking. In fact, by definition, the average man is... well... Average.

Putting in the work will make a huge difference for the average man.

 

[Ragnarok]

Haha yeah I am currently working on my eye contact and voice and walk. So I am actively working on myself. I just don't feel like a finished product you know . Not sure what to do with the hair. I don't think I would look good bald
And the thinning look isn't good either
But I'm way too young for a hair transplant
If I continually improve the other aspects of my appearance can I just ignore the hair or what I can do?

 

[Ragnarok]

Also how do you guys know when your fundamentals are good? Is it only female attention ? Is there anyway to like tell by yourself?

 

[Fuck This]

When you feel good you look good. A new haircut, new threads, good workout, they all make you give off a more confident vibe and be more engaging.

 

[Big Daddy]

Not sure what to do with the hair.

Shave it. Bunch of friends going through the same in their 20s with the same excuse, but it just looks horrible. Let your beard grow, get jacked, problem solved.

 

[lostnumber]

When you feel good you look good. A new haircut, new threads, good workout, they all make you give off a more confident vibe and be more engaging.

This. Its honestly as much about what it does for your internal mental state as what it adds to your physical appearance. When I get a new custom blazer made I walk around with a spring in my step feeling like I can take on the world.

That kind of confidence and satisfaction will improve your overall quality of life and make you much more attractive.

Find what that boost is for you and take advantage of it. For me its fancy clothes, for some guys it might be a killer session at the gym. For you it might be a new haircut