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Hector Papi Castillo

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This is timely as fuck, god damn it. I have been devouring anything text-related because the girls I want to fuck the most will give me most texting problems and recently I've into 4 or 5 in row and it's driving me crazy.

And since you're considering this kind of nuance, here is something to consider too: if you're talking on WhatsApp, chances are the other person will assume you're talking to her on a computer, and you don't want to seem like you're 24/7 in your couch.

I'm somewhat divided, but I'm gonna test it to know what kinds of reactions I'll get from bishes. Seems like a fair point, and even if minor, it doesn't hurt to try.

That said, given that the subject is texting, I will get greedy here and ask two additional questions:

1.) How do you get investment (or just: get her out) over text when talking to "hard" girls?

  • All the general rules apply to most girls, but I find the girls I want to fuck the most the hardest to get anything out of (which is expected as they are hot). I was not getting satisfactory results going straight for the ask, so I tried ways of slowly ramping up their investment:

    * get them talking more -> I ask questions (invest) and they reply just a little... doesn't work
    * get them send pictures, videos or voice messages -> some don't, some do to a little extent and then stop... not good enough
    * tried enticing their emotions before asking -> Clumsy, get a lot of monosyllable responses or fake laughs and never hit stride
    * trying being warmer, sent more emojis and shit -> too close to nice guy, ignored or monosyllable response

    I still didn't try was memes and calling (well to be fair I called a girl once, but she didn't pick up; still replied to my texts though).

2.) Found this texto convo of yours from 2014 doing something that I do way too often ending the same way it ended there.

  • I don't think it ever worked unless I had already fucked a girl and she was 100% playing along. Did your stance about that changed? How do you deal with chase and sexual framing today?

    It's just too easy to ignore me over text when I'm agressive and too hard for us not sound like your boring everyday mortherfucker.

0.) Do you leave the "read tick" and "last seen" turned on or off on WhatsApp/texting app?
 

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interesting argument hector.

personally, i turned off the "automatically capitalize the first word of a sentence" setting in my phone a long time ago. i try to avoid using periods unless its absolutely necessary. i sometimes forgo even using capitals on this forum.

i don't use capitals and other punctuation because it feels TOO FORMAL.

how do you know you are experiencing marginal gains in in responses, response times, and date percentages because texting without capitalization and punctuation is less effort, and not because it's less formal???

if you really wanted to expend less effort, you'd text using short forms and stuff, like this:

wen do u want 2 meet

Very effortless, but also makes you seem like a bumbling walrus.
 

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Great tips! I'll try them out.
 

Hector Papi Castillo

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if you really wanted to expend less effort, you'd text using short forms and stuff, like this:

wen do u want 2 meet


Very effortless, but also makes you seem like a bumbling walrus.

I'm actually in favor of this texting style. She'll fuck a bumbling walrus if it makes her wet.

And since you're considering this kind of nuance, here is something to consider too: if you're talking on WhatsApp, chances are the other person will assume you're talking to her on a computer, and you don't want to seem like you're 24/7 in your couch.

How many people use it on their computer? I didn't even know that was an option, but I suppose it's like Facebook Messenger in that respect.

* get them talking more -> I ask questions (invest) and they reply just a little... doesn't work
* get them send pictures, videos or voice messages -> some don't, some do to a little extent and then stop... not good enough
* tried enticing their emotions before asking -> Clumsy, get a lot of monosyllable responses or fake laughs and never hit stride
* trying being warmer, sent more emojis and shit -> too close to nice guy, ignored or monosyllable response

1. yeah, if they're not talking a lot, don't try to get the conversation going more. A hot girl has HUNDREDS of guys messaging her in some respect every week. Literally. Hundreds

2. I would only ever get pictures/memes because I send one first. I only do it sparingly and to give you good context is difficult. We want to avoid long conversations whenever possible.

3. what do you mean by this?

4. This depends. If you're pretty high value, this can help. I'm all for texting like a faggot in some cases. If she's mirroring it, you're fine. If she's going no emoji after you send her tons, you need to chill it out. Depends on the girl.

I'm all for calling girls, too, but usually only as a persistence tool or because she needs some romance. Also if it's a chick you've already been out with once, I feel okay calling her.

It's hard to give hard and fast rules with texting other than "get the date ASAP." It's so context specific, hence the instagram page and my in-depth focus on texts. Send me DMs!!

2.) Found this texto convo of yours from 2014 doing something that I do way too often ending the same way it ended there.

I don't think it ever worked unless I had already fucked a girl and she was 100% playing along. Did your stance about that changed? How do you deal with chase and sexual framing today?

I mean, I think the text conversation was fine. I ended up hanging out with this chick and if I'd been more aggressive, could have gotten her to cheat. I'm still sexually direct like this if I have to be, but prefer avoiding it.

How do you deal with chase and sexual framing today?

Again, this is hard. These days I'm very context-specific with my advice. I learned this from the stupid amount of hours I've spent coaching now. Generalized advice without examples is sub-par. If you come to me with specific conversations, we can teach general rules and patterns in real time when they're applicable. Too much information for you to remember when I say "chase frame in these scenarios." So much easier to say, "Yep, right there, that's where you should ahve done X."

It's just too easy to ignore me over text when I'm agressive and too hard for us not sound like your boring everyday mortherfucker.

Try to be more dumb when you're texting. But again, send me screenshots of text conversations. Would make this conversation 10000000000x easier.

Do you leave the "read tick" and "last seen" turned on or off on WhatsApp/texting app?

I kept it on for a while to know if chicks were ignoring me, but I just turned it off actually. I've learned enough about persistence now that I want the advantage of reading texts and having time to respond and keeping her on her toes.

New guys = keep it off to help with value

Intermediate guys = keep it on to know when you're being ignored, so you can learn persistence and other tricks and tips

Advanced = turn it back off for bonus points. keep her on her toes

Mrre said:
Great tips! I'll try them out.

Glad you dig 'em!

Hector
 

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Hector Castillo said:
How many people use it on their computer? I didn't even know that was an option, but I suppose it's like Facebook Messenger in that respect.

Well I just assume whenever people send me lowercase shit on any of the apps out there (Hangouts, Skype, FB) and WhatsApp is no exception. I have a couple of buddies that actually only use it on work, motherfuckers never pick up the phone. Might be only me though.

About #1 and #2, I just worry sometimes exactly because there are hundreds of dudes messaging her that I'll be the one she forgets and one of the mofos struck gold. Number's game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hector Castillo said:
3. what do you mean by this?

I read somewhere that you should try to get her talking about some shit that gets her out of autopilot somehow and asks her out. I never stopped to count, but I'd say they are more likely to reply... not necessarily positive though.

Hector Castillo said:
It's hard to give hard and fast rules with texting other than "get the date ASAP." It's so context specific, hence the instagram page and my in-depth focus on texts. Send me DMs!!

Haha, will do. I asked on the other thread too, but does it work if I translate the ones that aren't in English and send over?

I mean, I think the text conversation was fine. I ended up hanging out with this chick and if I'd been more aggressive, could have gotten her to cheat. I'm still sexually direct like this if I have to be, but prefer avoiding it.

Yeah I think it's pretty polarizing. I never reaaaally got it to work, only with girls that were already DTF to begin with, and funnily enough, I'm never that much into them. I always think I'd have more chances being normal then getting them out, but problems #1 and #2 above prevents me from doing so with really hot bishes.
 

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